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Alcohol, stomach discomfort and long term health problems
I hope someone can help me with my strange permanent symptoms that i have had for the past 3 years.
I am a 33 year old male. From 18 to 30 years of age i would describe myself as a reasonably heavy social drinker, probably around 50 units a week. Despite this i always found that i rarely suffered from hangovers and it was not uncommon for me to go jogging the morning following a night on the booze to run off any slight hangover i may have had. I was actually quite fit, and when i was 30 ran two half marathons.
3 years ago i joined the police service. The training for this meant spending 15 weeks at a residential camp. There was little to do there, and everyone's routine was to spend the evening in the onsite bar. It was also extremely stressful. The food during the 15 weeks was terrible, poor quality canteen grub and not much of it. Every evening to relieve the boredom i would get fairly drunk, probably drinking around 6-7 pints of lager. Every morning was an early start, and i was frequently tired from spending so much time in the bar the night before that most days meant i drank around 5-6 cans of diet coke to keep me alert. Weekends we came home, but this meant seeing friends and socialising so i would go out drinking at weekends also. This meant over the 15 weeks, i probably did not miss an evening where i wasn't fairly drunk, ate rubbish food , drunk countless diet coke. Despite this i kept my fitness levels up and jogged every day.
This is where my problems started. Towards the end of this 15 weeks i woke up one morning and felt terrible. I was strangely out of breath doing simple things, just getting out of bed. I felt really rough, like i was really over exerted. It was the same sort of feeling i would get after a really long 2 hour jog or something, the same sense of exertion - but i hadn't done anything. I had a strange uncomfortable full fulling in my upper stomach. I was also having ectopic heart beats.
I went to a doctor that day i felt so bad, and he sent me for an immediate heart echo cardiogram at the hospital. This came back normal.
As i was leaving the camp a few days later to go home, my doctor recommended seeing my home gp.
Before i went home for good the last day of the training course meant a fitness test. I went to bed that evening and for the first time didn't go to the bar as i still felt rough. I thought in the morning i would feel ok. However, when i woke up i didn't. I felt exactly the same, easily out of breath, totally exerted and generally feeling under the weather.
I tried jogging this day, and it was bizarre. I just couldn't do it. I was out of breath bending down to put my trainers on.
Basically i returned home and over the course of the next year i must have been back to my GP around 20 times about the above problems. My ectopic beats settled down after a few weeks. My tests have involved an ultrasound on my stomach, ECG's, blood tests for everything as far as i know, i have been referred to the infectious diseases clinic, been put on Prozac (they thought it was all in my head).
I eventually gave up going to my GP, as he basically said there was nothing else they could test me for.
Three years on my symptoms are as follows:
1) I am not breathless anymore. I do jog now regularly but find it far more tiring than i ever did. Half an hour is my limit.
2) I have a permanent upper abdomen 'raw' feeling and always feel below par. I know this is vague but i find it difficult to be more specific.
3) if i drink alcohol now, i feel absolutely TERRIBLE for days after. Even if i drink small amounts i will feel rough for a couple of days, nauseous and totally drained of energy.
4) Some days my upper stomach pain feels much worse than offers. However it never seems to be related to hunger/no hunger, or what i have eaten.
My question is really, did my alcohol consumption cause permanent damage to some area of my body? Could it also have been related to my lifestyle at the time? Is it impossible to detect?
The reason i am posting this is because even 3 years on i remember that i used to feel a lot better than i do know in general day to day life. It's incredibly frustrating. I drink rarely now as i feel too ill when i do.
I have a very healthy diet with plenty of fruit and veg. I have tried vitamins, milk thistle, various supplements, all to seemingly no affect.
Can anyone shed any light or what i might have done to myself and how on earth i could go forward?
I am a 33 year old male. From 18 to 30 years of age i would describe myself as a reasonably heavy social drinker, probably around 50 units a week. Despite this i always found that i rarely suffered from hangovers and it was not uncommon for me to go jogging the morning following a night on the booze to run off any slight hangover i may have had. I was actually quite fit, and when i was 30 ran two half marathons.
3 years ago i joined the police service. The training for this meant spending 15 weeks at a residential camp. There was little to do there, and everyone's routine was to spend the evening in the onsite bar. It was also extremely stressful. The food during the 15 weeks was terrible, poor quality canteen grub and not much of it. Every evening to relieve the boredom i would get fairly drunk, probably drinking around 6-7 pints of lager. Every morning was an early start, and i was frequently tired from spending so much time in the bar the night before that most days meant i drank around 5-6 cans of diet coke to keep me alert. Weekends we came home, but this meant seeing friends and socialising so i would go out drinking at weekends also. This meant over the 15 weeks, i probably did not miss an evening where i wasn't fairly drunk, ate rubbish food , drunk countless diet coke. Despite this i kept my fitness levels up and jogged every day.
This is where my problems started. Towards the end of this 15 weeks i woke up one morning and felt terrible. I was strangely out of breath doing simple things, just getting out of bed. I felt really rough, like i was really over exerted. It was the same sort of feeling i would get after a really long 2 hour jog or something, the same sense of exertion - but i hadn't done anything. I had a strange uncomfortable full fulling in my upper stomach. I was also having ectopic heart beats.
I went to a doctor that day i felt so bad, and he sent me for an immediate heart echo cardiogram at the hospital. This came back normal.
As i was leaving the camp a few days later to go home, my doctor recommended seeing my home gp.
Before i went home for good the last day of the training course meant a fitness test. I went to bed that evening and for the first time didn't go to the bar as i still felt rough. I thought in the morning i would feel ok. However, when i woke up i didn't. I felt exactly the same, easily out of breath, totally exerted and generally feeling under the weather.
I tried jogging this day, and it was bizarre. I just couldn't do it. I was out of breath bending down to put my trainers on.
Basically i returned home and over the course of the next year i must have been back to my GP around 20 times about the above problems. My ectopic beats settled down after a few weeks. My tests have involved an ultrasound on my stomach, ECG's, blood tests for everything as far as i know, i have been referred to the infectious diseases clinic, been put on Prozac (they thought it was all in my head).
I eventually gave up going to my GP, as he basically said there was nothing else they could test me for.
Three years on my symptoms are as follows:
1) I am not breathless anymore. I do jog now regularly but find it far more tiring than i ever did. Half an hour is my limit.
2) I have a permanent upper abdomen 'raw' feeling and always feel below par. I know this is vague but i find it difficult to be more specific.
3) if i drink alcohol now, i feel absolutely TERRIBLE for days after. Even if i drink small amounts i will feel rough for a couple of days, nauseous and totally drained of energy.
4) Some days my upper stomach pain feels much worse than offers. However it never seems to be related to hunger/no hunger, or what i have eaten.
My question is really, did my alcohol consumption cause permanent damage to some area of my body? Could it also have been related to my lifestyle at the time? Is it impossible to detect?
The reason i am posting this is because even 3 years on i remember that i used to feel a lot better than i do know in general day to day life. It's incredibly frustrating. I drink rarely now as i feel too ill when i do.
I have a very healthy diet with plenty of fruit and veg. I have tried vitamins, milk thistle, various supplements, all to seemingly no affect.
Can anyone shed any light or what i might have done to myself and how on earth i could go forward?
Assuming that there is nothing seriously wrong with your heart, (which there isnt; as your ecg and blood tests suggest everything is o.k) your gp is probably correct when he feels it could be in your head.
Your blood test would probably be for enzymes secreted when your tissue dies (in the heart for example). This is the best test to see if you had suffered a "heart attack". If you had of had any serious heart trouble, this would haved shown it.
Alternatively. They may have done liver tests, and potassium tests, my guess is you had low potassium.
Your "shortness of breath", "full feeling" in upper abdomen, and ectopic heart beets are indicative of panic disorder.
You are out of breath because of hyperventilation, you get nonregular heart beets under panic, as this is your bodies way of telling you to escape because there's danger. And your full feeling is associated with panic disorder.
Long term drinking, damages the outer layer in the brain, (not saying thats happened to you. Long term drink is also closely associated to neuroligical disorders mainly panic disorders. Feeling a sickening dread, that something bad will happen and the like. Heres a site i just found on google. http://www.panicportal.com/indext3.htm (it may be a kwik fix scheme so proceed carefully)
Panic disorder is not life threatening, have you asked your doctor for beta blockers? (Do not take if you are asthmatic)
Here are a few symptoms! http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/pdbasics/a/panicdefined.htm
Panic disorders are associated with
chest pain
shortness of breath
feeling of dread (which may be what you fear when you try to run, thus hampering you efforts)
Noticeably quick or pounding heartrate
Fear of dying
Derealization or depersonalization
Choking sensation
Nausea
Cold or hot flashes
Closely associated are disorders like seratonin syndrome.
Seratonin levels are altered in panic disorders, (symptons like severe migrain indicate high levels)heres a good explanation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor
Hope any of this has helped, wether you do suffer from panic, or anything worse (unlikely) my best advice would be to stop drinking, then see your doctor for beta blockers, or antidepressant-anxiety drugs.
Interistingly Anxiety disorders are often debilitating chronic conditions, which can be present from an early age or begin suddenly after a triggering event. They are prone to flare up at times of high stress. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anxiety_disorder
Paul!
Your blood test would probably be for enzymes secreted when your tissue dies (in the heart for example). This is the best test to see if you had suffered a "heart attack". If you had of had any serious heart trouble, this would haved shown it.
Alternatively. They may have done liver tests, and potassium tests, my guess is you had low potassium.
Your "shortness of breath", "full feeling" in upper abdomen, and ectopic heart beets are indicative of panic disorder.
You are out of breath because of hyperventilation, you get nonregular heart beets under panic, as this is your bodies way of telling you to escape because there's danger. And your full feeling is associated with panic disorder.
Long term drinking, damages the outer layer in the brain, (not saying thats happened to you. Long term drink is also closely associated to neuroligical disorders mainly panic disorders. Feeling a sickening dread, that something bad will happen and the like. Heres a site i just found on google. http://www.panicportal.com/indext3.htm (it may be a kwik fix scheme so proceed carefully)
Panic disorder is not life threatening, have you asked your doctor for beta blockers? (Do not take if you are asthmatic)
Here are a few symptoms! http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/pdbasics/a/panicdefined.htm
Panic disorders are associated with
chest pain
shortness of breath
feeling of dread (which may be what you fear when you try to run, thus hampering you efforts)
Noticeably quick or pounding heartrate
Fear of dying
Derealization or depersonalization
Choking sensation
Nausea
Cold or hot flashes
Closely associated are disorders like seratonin syndrome.
Seratonin levels are altered in panic disorders, (symptons like severe migrain indicate high levels)heres a good explanation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor
Hope any of this has helped, wether you do suffer from panic, or anything worse (unlikely) my best advice would be to stop drinking, then see your doctor for beta blockers, or antidepressant-anxiety drugs.
Interistingly Anxiety disorders are often debilitating chronic conditions, which can be present from an early age or begin suddenly after a triggering event. They are prone to flare up at times of high stress. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anxiety_disorder
Paul!
You don't say if you had your liver fully evaluated but your symtoms sound like they could be caused by viral or alcoholic hepatitis . Were you checked for Hep C? I'd get tested for it, test for Hep B too. May people have it and do not have a history that would indicate it. You need a liver evaluation and a complete hepatic panel done. Find out what your platelet count is. I would not drink until you find out what this is. If you rule out Hep b and c then look at other liver issues that could be present.
I dont think he has liver disease! He said he had every blood test going, im sure the second blood test he would have had would be liver function. He said he had even been reffered to infectious disease clinic. He would have had liver test before this.
Also; liver disease would not explain the shortness of breath he had earlier suffered. Panic disorder fits all symptoms. But nothing is set in stone.
Also; liver disease would not explain the shortness of breath he had earlier suffered. Panic disorder fits all symptoms. But nothing is set in stone.
Hi, Do not listen to the person who thinks its a panic disorder. First of all, alchohol uses the same chemicals in your head that anxiety meds do, xanax, klonopin, valium, ativan. These drugs,as with alcohol use gaba receptors in your brain to make you feel calm. Prolonged use of either drug causes brain damage. However its unlikely that has happened to you. It takes decades of severe abuse to have brain damage, first if you quit drinking at this stage you would have went through a serious withdrawal, seizures, delerium tremons, ect. Please dont take anxiety meds, you will be worse off when you stop them. Its has been well reported of people having severe withdrawal for years after stoping benzos(xanax, valium, ativan, klonopin). WAY WORSE THEN ALCOHOL!!! It sounds like it could be a vitamin B deficiancy. You stated you took vitamins, most people dont know that the majority of people who take vitamins dont get the nutriants from them due to intestinal parasites. This could be the cause your stomach pain also. When you drink alcohol, it depletes your vitamins anyway, so, if you have alot of parasites (everyone does) no vitamins are getting to your system. Go to a homeopathic Doctor, they can test you for these little buggers. Also, google thiamine deficiantcy signs. Hope this helps
Hi,
I relate to your stomach problems.
Im a 35 year old male.
2) I have a permanent upper abdomen 'raw' feeling and always feel below par. I know this is vague but i find it difficult to be more specific.
I don't have this all the time. But i know exatly what you mean. Used too have it everyday.
3) if i drink alcohol now, i feel absolutely TERRIBLE for days after. Even if i drink small amounts i will feel rough for a couple of days, nauseous and totally drained of energy.
Totally interferes with my digestive system for days. If i get drunk i will feel 'ill' for over a week. It is like I have become intolerate or allergic to alcohol.
4) Some days my upper stomach pain feels much worse than offers. However it never seems to be related to hunger/no hunger, or what i have eaten.
It used to be like this but got better. Some things I avoid like coffee, makes me feel sick. Chilies hot food no problem eating. You should eat small meals and often rather than 2/3 big meals a day.
Drink water. I don't drink enough. Sometimes when I feel ill I drink water and it feels better it's either dehydration or flushing the acid away I guess.
I've always been a bit of a nervous person. Had stomach pains when i was around 17. I believe because of nerves.
Used to drink heavily ONLY at weekends and the rare party. Didn't drink as heavily as you but always with the intention of getting drunk. It's called 'binge' drinking in the UK. Maybe 5-8 pints.
Importantly caught Campylobacter when I was around 28 didn't feel that bad. Recovered well. Was not given antibiotics. But maybe that might have done some sort of damage.
Progressively my stomach got worse more sensitive over the years.
If i travel i'm always the one to get food poisoning. It's like a bad joke. I always get ill.
Sounds like your stomach is very 'sore'.
I'm not a doctor but our stories are similar.
I think it's related to alcohol, somehow damaged the stomach.
But nerves play a part with my condition.
Breath Tested for H Pylori came back negative.
Had an Endoscopy. All was clear.
Diagnosed with 'functional dyspepsia.
Take it easy. Hope it all gets better. These things take time.
It feels unfair not being able to drink alcohol anymore! Maybe its just what happens to people who like to drink when we get into our thirties! lol
Good Luck.
I relate to your stomach problems.
Im a 35 year old male.
2) I have a permanent upper abdomen 'raw' feeling and always feel below par. I know this is vague but i find it difficult to be more specific.
I don't have this all the time. But i know exatly what you mean. Used too have it everyday.
3) if i drink alcohol now, i feel absolutely TERRIBLE for days after. Even if i drink small amounts i will feel rough for a couple of days, nauseous and totally drained of energy.
Totally interferes with my digestive system for days. If i get drunk i will feel 'ill' for over a week. It is like I have become intolerate or allergic to alcohol.
4) Some days my upper stomach pain feels much worse than offers. However it never seems to be related to hunger/no hunger, or what i have eaten.
It used to be like this but got better. Some things I avoid like coffee, makes me feel sick. Chilies hot food no problem eating. You should eat small meals and often rather than 2/3 big meals a day.
Drink water. I don't drink enough. Sometimes when I feel ill I drink water and it feels better it's either dehydration or flushing the acid away I guess.
I've always been a bit of a nervous person. Had stomach pains when i was around 17. I believe because of nerves.
Used to drink heavily ONLY at weekends and the rare party. Didn't drink as heavily as you but always with the intention of getting drunk. It's called 'binge' drinking in the UK. Maybe 5-8 pints.
Importantly caught Campylobacter when I was around 28 didn't feel that bad. Recovered well. Was not given antibiotics. But maybe that might have done some sort of damage.
Progressively my stomach got worse more sensitive over the years.
If i travel i'm always the one to get food poisoning. It's like a bad joke. I always get ill.
Sounds like your stomach is very 'sore'.
I'm not a doctor but our stories are similar.
I think it's related to alcohol, somehow damaged the stomach.
But nerves play a part with my condition.
Breath Tested for H Pylori came back negative.
Had an Endoscopy. All was clear.
Diagnosed with 'functional dyspepsia.
Take it easy. Hope it all gets better. These things take time.
It feels unfair not being able to drink alcohol anymore! Maybe its just what happens to people who like to drink when we get into our thirties! lol
Good Luck.
im in the8th grade and we are learning about things thate ar bad for ur body
• increase the chance of developing high blood pressure, which is the second leading cause of kidney disease
• Interfere with medicines making it harder to control high blood pressure. Uncontrolled high blood pressure is more likely to damage kidneys.
• cause more frequent urination, which can lead to dehydration
• prevent the kidneys from maintaining a proper balance of body fluids and minerals
• damage kidney cells changing the structure and function of the kidneys
• Interfere with medicines making it harder to control high blood pressure. Uncontrolled high blood pressure is more likely to damage kidneys.
• cause more frequent urination, which can lead to dehydration
• prevent the kidneys from maintaining a proper balance of body fluids and minerals
• damage kidney cells changing the structure and function of the kidneys
Im desperate for help and totally relate to this, i am 29 and guess you could say iv been a heavy social drinker although more now than ever.
ive always suffered with the odd bout of indegestion and trapped wind but NEVER like this it started 12 months ago when i returned from holiday and the docs thought ide got gastrenteritis (sorry about the spelling), i was vomitting and diarreah constant fullness and severe bloating.
Anyway as time has gone on the vomitting and diarreah subsides and returns mainly when im so frustrated over the other symptoms now on a daily basis
1 my stomach bloats the that of a six month pregnant woman and its very uncomfortable and niggles away at you
2 my stomach aches im not in agony but more like i feel like im about the burst at any minute and there is a storm going on in there i mean you can actually hear it,
3 these together make me feel very tired and achey like i dont have the energy to do anything and twtichy and vague sometimes like im not really here.
ive had every test going you name it ive had it more recently an endoscopy which showed esophogitis but only mild and probably caused by me vomitting but everything else proves negative, docs are baffled and im at my wits end , im a logical person and dont want to be like this i just want an answer if ANYONE could help me.
Docs also thought i may have panic disorder i refused meds but did try the therapy but it sure didnt help my stomach! funny thing is now i am having panic attacks because im worrying about my stomach and resulting to drinking to calm me down this is jus a vicious circle and no one seems to be able to help me i feel so low!
ive always suffered with the odd bout of indegestion and trapped wind but NEVER like this it started 12 months ago when i returned from holiday and the docs thought ide got gastrenteritis (sorry about the spelling), i was vomitting and diarreah constant fullness and severe bloating.
Anyway as time has gone on the vomitting and diarreah subsides and returns mainly when im so frustrated over the other symptoms now on a daily basis
1 my stomach bloats the that of a six month pregnant woman and its very uncomfortable and niggles away at you
2 my stomach aches im not in agony but more like i feel like im about the burst at any minute and there is a storm going on in there i mean you can actually hear it,
3 these together make me feel very tired and achey like i dont have the energy to do anything and twtichy and vague sometimes like im not really here.
ive had every test going you name it ive had it more recently an endoscopy which showed esophogitis but only mild and probably caused by me vomitting but everything else proves negative, docs are baffled and im at my wits end , im a logical person and dont want to be like this i just want an answer if ANYONE could help me.
Docs also thought i may have panic disorder i refused meds but did try the therapy but it sure didnt help my stomach! funny thing is now i am having panic attacks because im worrying about my stomach and resulting to drinking to calm me down this is jus a vicious circle and no one seems to be able to help me i feel so low!
3) if i drink alcohol now, i feel absolutely TERRIBLE for days after. Even if i drink small amounts i will feel rough for a couple of days, nauseous and totally drained of energy.
I know that feeling. I can't touch a drop now. I was so out of it on one pint I ended up being called an ambulance and when i refused that arrested!
I'm not sure if something may have come of the food you ate at the camp, a common bacterial or other infection H Pylori, Camplyobacteria, Listeria, Salmonella?
I presume liver function test and kidney fucntion test were done?
Were you given a Hep panel or endocrine panel in your series of tests?
I think stress may have a role in all this. because
1 it sounds like the experience on that day has had a significant effect
2 you started a stressful occupation (presumably also with shift work?)
3 SSRIs can cause anxiety particularly if the patient doesn't need them in the first place.
Were you cleared for ulcerative illness after the scan?
Ay other symtoms, change in urine, stools? Unexplained muscle or joint aches?
Wouldn't an Internal medicine specialist be the first point of call rather than an ID specialist?
I know that feeling. I can't touch a drop now. I was so out of it on one pint I ended up being called an ambulance and when i refused that arrested!
I'm not sure if something may have come of the food you ate at the camp, a common bacterial or other infection H Pylori, Camplyobacteria, Listeria, Salmonella?
I presume liver function test and kidney fucntion test were done?
Were you given a Hep panel or endocrine panel in your series of tests?
I think stress may have a role in all this. because
1 it sounds like the experience on that day has had a significant effect
2 you started a stressful occupation (presumably also with shift work?)
3 SSRIs can cause anxiety particularly if the patient doesn't need them in the first place.
Were you cleared for ulcerative illness after the scan?
Ay other symtoms, change in urine, stools? Unexplained muscle or joint aches?
Wouldn't an Internal medicine specialist be the first point of call rather than an ID specialist?
I too am suffering the weak stomach very similar in story to original. I am White 32 male, probably a bit of an overeater, but exercised to make up for that in ways. My stomach got very weak almost 2 years ago.
It seems now when I rest for a week at a time and reduce my diet, always keeping milk on hand as a buffer, my stomach slowly improves a little bit. But when I start exercising more (like running?) the left side of my stomach gets tight and weak and starts to drain me of more energy than normal. It feels like it gets dry and cold there. I try to drink plenty of water to make my pee run clear to light yellow, and when I get fitfull kicks while trying to sleep (sign of dehydration), I put a heat pack on my stomach and that seems to temporarily settle it down.
These practices feel more like temporary solutions than long term especially for trying to get back into weightlifting. I don't get it, but it seems exercise makes my stomach worse, however, when I don't exercise I feel sluggish on another end. It is a hard balance that I can't figure out how to improve. We could be suffering from lifestyles of excess, but isn't it cureable?
The stomach is a muscle and I wonder if there is any kind of exercise a person can do to improve its condition? All I know so far is that Chiropractors can stretch the stomach. What else is there?
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It seems now when I rest for a week at a time and reduce my diet, always keeping milk on hand as a buffer, my stomach slowly improves a little bit. But when I start exercising more (like running?) the left side of my stomach gets tight and weak and starts to drain me of more energy than normal. It feels like it gets dry and cold there. I try to drink plenty of water to make my pee run clear to light yellow, and when I get fitfull kicks while trying to sleep (sign of dehydration), I put a heat pack on my stomach and that seems to temporarily settle it down.
These practices feel more like temporary solutions than long term especially for trying to get back into weightlifting. I don't get it, but it seems exercise makes my stomach worse, however, when I don't exercise I feel sluggish on another end. It is a hard balance that I can't figure out how to improve. We could be suffering from lifestyles of excess, but isn't it cureable?
The stomach is a muscle and I wonder if there is any kind of exercise a person can do to improve its condition? All I know so far is that Chiropractors can stretch the stomach. What else is there?
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I have the same symptoms as you. I have a thyroid problem and often it is diagnosed more in women than men. They ran MILLIONS of tests on me about 5 years ago and diagnosed me with nervous stomach. Alkazelter helps me and Prevacid does sometimes to..............Hang in!
You are a genius sintonic thanx alot for the info!
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Muscles are two types: the smooth muscles of the intestine and stomach are not in your control and they are linked to sympathetic and para sympathetic nervous system & Cranial nerves.
The external abdominal muscles are under your control which can be toned and exercised.
So for the gastric secretions they are hormone related and also stress can cause more concern and you have to lead a stressless life, no alcohol, no smoking and proper timely diet and sufficient water which would in long term would help you during exercising and stabilizing.
Take care!
The external abdominal muscles are under your control which can be toned and exercised.
So for the gastric secretions they are hormone related and also stress can cause more concern and you have to lead a stressless life, no alcohol, no smoking and proper timely diet and sufficient water which would in long term would help you during exercising and stabilizing.
Take care!
Ive been having similar symptoms which have occured within the last couple of months. A stomach discomfort that cant be described, almost as if there were something moving around in my stomach but only a nudge, I think the parasitic theroy sounds more on spot. I could understand with all the ecoli issues that have been happening with the FDA in the previous years. You know with tomatos, lettece, penut butter etc. Maybe that could be the case for many simular symptoms
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
With E-coli infections you would also have lose motions or continous intestinal contraction and other symptoms. Go for your stool testing and if required culture and if it is clean then do not worry about E-coli.
Hand washing is very important and hygiene is 2nd most important . If you follow both of these in your day to day life you would limit all these infections.
If it bothers you continuously then you have to go for an examination near a Physician/Gastroenterologist. Take care!
Hand washing is very important and hygiene is 2nd most important . If you follow both of these in your day to day life you would limit all these infections.
If it bothers you continuously then you have to go for an examination near a Physician/Gastroenterologist. Take care!
have had cramps for about 5 months, first loose stools, sometimes more firm, but lots of flatulence and disgusting stools, that almost paint the toilet bowl when flushed. I drink about 5 drinks a day- some days more (consicously trying not to, though). Am 35. Female. This afternoon my stomach craps were so bad I had trouble walking and had to go to the Dr. Tomorrow I'm having a day off work for a CT.
I eat healthy, I run, i drink quite a bit of water.
Will see how CT goes I guess!
I eat healthy, I run, i drink quite a bit of water.
Will see how CT goes I guess!
Most of those symptoms sound familiar to me. It is somewhat comforting to see others having them, but unfortunate. I too felt out of breath and could hardly even jog for a time, after one particular night of a certain natural excess.
At any rate, one of the things I found problematic was that I ate too many bananas. Believe it or not they can really start to mess up your mineral balance and your digestion if you have too many. I cut them out completely. Do a little research on it.
Also, I believe that being at the computer is a partial culprit. If on too much every day it makes my stomach uncomfortable, or nervous if you will.
You may also wish to cut down on milk products which can be hard to digest for some, like me.
I have gotten to the point where I can drink, but if I do it very often I really start to regret it. And sometimes my stomach still feels ill. My body suffers until it either moves all the way through or I throw up the contents of my stomach.
Research about sour stomach and the role of acids and how some foods break down and "ferment" causing negative acid formations and difficulty.
I, personally, am still having some problems but on the road to sorting them out more. I am an active tennis player. I put on 15-20 pounds after my symptoms got worse, but now I can play for longer durations without getting to exhausted. Before I got really dehydrated-feeling. I hydrate well with spring water and avoid too much caffeine. It may help you to breathe out slowly when you exercise to help keep your respiration calm. I am not sure how or why this is related to breathing, but for some reason it is.
Good luck and take care,
john
At any rate, one of the things I found problematic was that I ate too many bananas. Believe it or not they can really start to mess up your mineral balance and your digestion if you have too many. I cut them out completely. Do a little research on it.
Also, I believe that being at the computer is a partial culprit. If on too much every day it makes my stomach uncomfortable, or nervous if you will.
You may also wish to cut down on milk products which can be hard to digest for some, like me.
I have gotten to the point where I can drink, but if I do it very often I really start to regret it. And sometimes my stomach still feels ill. My body suffers until it either moves all the way through or I throw up the contents of my stomach.
Research about sour stomach and the role of acids and how some foods break down and "ferment" causing negative acid formations and difficulty.
I, personally, am still having some problems but on the road to sorting them out more. I am an active tennis player. I put on 15-20 pounds after my symptoms got worse, but now I can play for longer durations without getting to exhausted. Before I got really dehydrated-feeling. I hydrate well with spring water and avoid too much caffeine. It may help you to breathe out slowly when you exercise to help keep your respiration calm. I am not sure how or why this is related to breathing, but for some reason it is.
Good luck and take care,
john
I went to a local herbalist/old school chinese medicine practitioner and he diagnosed me using traditional chinese methods. He arrived at the conclusion that I had a nervous stomach (pretty accurate) and he had only seen a case similar to mine once before. The medicine he gave me worked really well for a time. Of course I went back to the same habits which did not help overcome the problem.
Back to the computer over-exposure issue, it sounds a bit silly at first sight, but it is not without its effects, which I have observed first hand. First of all, it reduces the melatonin production in the body and it can disturb your sleep. If you do not get enough sleep this affects not only your immune system and ability to heal but your stomach as well. I think long hours at the computer may also hinder oyur immune system to an extent as well.
I hope some one gets a little help from my experience.
-john
Back to the computer over-exposure issue, it sounds a bit silly at first sight, but it is not without its effects, which I have observed first hand. First of all, it reduces the melatonin production in the body and it can disturb your sleep. If you do not get enough sleep this affects not only your immune system and ability to heal but your stomach as well. I think long hours at the computer may also hinder oyur immune system to an extent as well.
I hope some one gets a little help from my experience.
-john
i have the same fullness as you have on your abdomen. Especially after alcohol.
Try going to the chinese doctor for acupunctur, and other chinese massage. It helps for me, and reduced over time. I have the same lifestyle as you were. I am feeling better now with better alcohol tolerance, less side effects in abdomen.
Try that...it works!
Try going to the chinese doctor for acupunctur, and other chinese massage. It helps for me, and reduced over time. I have the same lifestyle as you were. I am feeling better now with better alcohol tolerance, less side effects in abdomen.
Try that...it works!
okay, I am now 47, female and I have had all of the same symptoms. Here is what i have learned and what i do:
As you age, i.e. anything over 25 years counts, your stomach and digestive system cannot handle some things that it used to easily.
Things like raw onion, dairy and alcohol are but some of a long and
(as you age) ever growing list. Your body is not static and you have to adjust periodically. You will have to adjust and discover what you can still consume.
Tricks & tips:
1. Beano - excellent product. For first bite of beans, broccoli, eggs or any gas causing foods.
2. Lact-Aid (generic available)- for gas, constipation or diarrhea from consuming dairy of any kind.
3. Phazyme- for immediate relief of the bloated stomach and intestinal gas. This is often the culprit for the breathlessness and raw stomach sensation. Your stomach can press upwards on your diaphram and also you should cosider haiatal hernia as a possible problem.
4. Acidophilus caplets- restore beneficial microflora (bacteria) in the digestive tract. I found that after going to the ER last summer convinced that I was having a heart attack ( and $10k in tests later finding out my heart was great) that my panic attack (that was what it was) that was brought on by an overactive imagination, stress and worry because I had all the above symptoms our original author cited; that my digestive system was out of balance. I had an endoscopy, nuclear heart ct and other things- nothing wrong. I remembered my daughter's acidophilus for her irritable bowel syndrome and took it regularly for a 2-4 week period plus ate Activia for 4weeks and did a 2 week round of OTC prilosec. Zapped ALL the probs.
I still like my wine and if I get twinges, I snarf the acidophilus or Activia and all returns to normal. One other thing- you should drink an 8oz glass of water for every alcoholic beverage to counteract the dehydration (main cause of the hangover, BTW). Drink the water before and during the imbibing not all at once after. Too much water can kill you too, no kidding. The water will also help you slow down and keep the calories down, too. Now, that advice won't work for those who only want a buzz and aren't interested in their health but I am assuming that those reading this want to solve health issues so 'nuff said. My theory is that the alcohol kills off the beneficial bacteria needed for digestive tract balance. Just as some people can eat dairy, some can't. Some people will be more sensitive to alcohol's effects and others not. You can restore that balance inexpensively and harmlessly with activated yogurt cultures or the acidophilus (in with vitamins),
In a nutshell...you can really screw up that balance and your body is possibly telling you that you did so this is a suggestion made assuming that you are relatively sure that you are NOT having heart issues. An EKG can tell you whether you have had a heart attack and is not one of the more expensive or time consuming tests. DO NOT ASSUME that what I have said IS your problem...it was mine and I am now a happy camper.
Also, once a panic attack, more likely to have more and those people suffer 50% more real coronarys due to the extreme stress panic attacks cause so be aware. You can imagine yourself into a heart attack. Hope all this helps.
As you age, i.e. anything over 25 years counts, your stomach and digestive system cannot handle some things that it used to easily.
Things like raw onion, dairy and alcohol are but some of a long and
(as you age) ever growing list. Your body is not static and you have to adjust periodically. You will have to adjust and discover what you can still consume.
Tricks & tips:
1. Beano - excellent product. For first bite of beans, broccoli, eggs or any gas causing foods.
2. Lact-Aid (generic available)- for gas, constipation or diarrhea from consuming dairy of any kind.
3. Phazyme- for immediate relief of the bloated stomach and intestinal gas. This is often the culprit for the breathlessness and raw stomach sensation. Your stomach can press upwards on your diaphram and also you should cosider haiatal hernia as a possible problem.
4. Acidophilus caplets- restore beneficial microflora (bacteria) in the digestive tract. I found that after going to the ER last summer convinced that I was having a heart attack ( and $10k in tests later finding out my heart was great) that my panic attack (that was what it was) that was brought on by an overactive imagination, stress and worry because I had all the above symptoms our original author cited; that my digestive system was out of balance. I had an endoscopy, nuclear heart ct and other things- nothing wrong. I remembered my daughter's acidophilus for her irritable bowel syndrome and took it regularly for a 2-4 week period plus ate Activia for 4weeks and did a 2 week round of OTC prilosec. Zapped ALL the probs.
I still like my wine and if I get twinges, I snarf the acidophilus or Activia and all returns to normal. One other thing- you should drink an 8oz glass of water for every alcoholic beverage to counteract the dehydration (main cause of the hangover, BTW). Drink the water before and during the imbibing not all at once after. Too much water can kill you too, no kidding. The water will also help you slow down and keep the calories down, too. Now, that advice won't work for those who only want a buzz and aren't interested in their health but I am assuming that those reading this want to solve health issues so 'nuff said. My theory is that the alcohol kills off the beneficial bacteria needed for digestive tract balance. Just as some people can eat dairy, some can't. Some people will be more sensitive to alcohol's effects and others not. You can restore that balance inexpensively and harmlessly with activated yogurt cultures or the acidophilus (in with vitamins),
In a nutshell...you can really screw up that balance and your body is possibly telling you that you did so this is a suggestion made assuming that you are relatively sure that you are NOT having heart issues. An EKG can tell you whether you have had a heart attack and is not one of the more expensive or time consuming tests. DO NOT ASSUME that what I have said IS your problem...it was mine and I am now a happy camper.
Also, once a panic attack, more likely to have more and those people suffer 50% more real coronarys due to the extreme stress panic attacks cause so be aware. You can imagine yourself into a heart attack. Hope all this helps.
Hi Guys
I have had the same symptoms with the digestive problems, ill feeling and reaction to excersize or iniitally reaction to any movement. These were brought on by excess in my life, through a very stressful job, physical strain from being a semi professional marathon mountainbiker and overindulging in food and alcohol (socially).
After having all sorts of tests and done loads of research myself, I believe what I have is a mixture of anxiety and digestive issues. I believe the digestive issues are driven from an imballance of bad bascteria and dysfunction from this and over stress. To fight this, I have found resetting my diet with help of a dietitian and eliminating all foods that can cause unease in the stomach is key. slowly reintroduce foods and see what brings on problems. At the same time figthing the bad bacteria with probiotics and drinking lots of water to keep flushing the kidneys and helping them cope as your digestive system slowly resets and believe me this is slow.
Secondly I believe that due to the link to the nervous system and the gut, I believe that these digestive issues were sending warning signals through to the brain and causing anxiety as these were so strong and not normal to me. The event of this happening which was peaked one night at spin class sent my anxiety and stress levels over the edge and caused a panic attack. With this hightened level of anxiety, I had a couple of more panic attacks. what I needed to do here was work to remove the anxiety withcalming excersizes, yoga, only once I completely calmed down, could I actually pinpoint the stomach nervous signals and address them.
I believe what I have, which sounds very similar to some of the posts here, is a mixture of these two things and you need to be dealing with both, however the first thing that worked for me was telling myself I was not dying or had some weird disease and actually bring myself back into control and stop focusing on the bad feelings.
I believe the high level of alert my body was on, was the reason I was struggling to do normal things and as soon as I tried to train, I was struggling to breath and felt ill. I am now back to training and just enjoyed my first session at high intensity.
Unfortuantely I believe this thing is something I will always have to manage and as someone was saying, as you get older, you just need to learn what the body can tolerate to allow you to still do the things you want and unfortunately for me, it has meant reducing my drinking culture and stress to ensure I can still race my bicycle.
Not sure if this will help for anyone else, but I thought to put my story up here as at one point I felt like my life was seriously over and now I am far better than I was and canpretty much function as before with a few adjustments.
I have had the same symptoms with the digestive problems, ill feeling and reaction to excersize or iniitally reaction to any movement. These were brought on by excess in my life, through a very stressful job, physical strain from being a semi professional marathon mountainbiker and overindulging in food and alcohol (socially).
After having all sorts of tests and done loads of research myself, I believe what I have is a mixture of anxiety and digestive issues. I believe the digestive issues are driven from an imballance of bad bascteria and dysfunction from this and over stress. To fight this, I have found resetting my diet with help of a dietitian and eliminating all foods that can cause unease in the stomach is key. slowly reintroduce foods and see what brings on problems. At the same time figthing the bad bacteria with probiotics and drinking lots of water to keep flushing the kidneys and helping them cope as your digestive system slowly resets and believe me this is slow.
Secondly I believe that due to the link to the nervous system and the gut, I believe that these digestive issues were sending warning signals through to the brain and causing anxiety as these were so strong and not normal to me. The event of this happening which was peaked one night at spin class sent my anxiety and stress levels over the edge and caused a panic attack. With this hightened level of anxiety, I had a couple of more panic attacks. what I needed to do here was work to remove the anxiety withcalming excersizes, yoga, only once I completely calmed down, could I actually pinpoint the stomach nervous signals and address them.
I believe what I have, which sounds very similar to some of the posts here, is a mixture of these two things and you need to be dealing with both, however the first thing that worked for me was telling myself I was not dying or had some weird disease and actually bring myself back into control and stop focusing on the bad feelings.
I believe the high level of alert my body was on, was the reason I was struggling to do normal things and as soon as I tried to train, I was struggling to breath and felt ill. I am now back to training and just enjoyed my first session at high intensity.
Unfortuantely I believe this thing is something I will always have to manage and as someone was saying, as you get older, you just need to learn what the body can tolerate to allow you to still do the things you want and unfortunately for me, it has meant reducing my drinking culture and stress to ensure I can still race my bicycle.
Not sure if this will help for anyone else, but I thought to put my story up here as at one point I felt like my life was seriously over and now I am far better than I was and canpretty much function as before with a few adjustments.
Hi all,
I found this site purely as i was also trying to find out what is wrong with me! I have always been able to drink a lot as I am a very tall female and played rugby etc and and so am used to drinking.
About 3 months ago I woke up one day and I thought my heart was jumping ans skipping beats - I got more and more panicked until I drove myself to hospital. They did all of the tests on me and they were all normal and all I got was a lecture on how to cope with "panic attacks" and "stress". I have never been so happy as I am now so I just don't get it - as I have been so much more stressed in the past. Also I am an ex-cop (for my sins) but just proving I can cope with stress!
They did ECGs everything - it wasn't my heart that was fluttering - and now I have realised it is actually in my stomach. It is a feeling like butterflies like when you are excited - but sometimes it is so bad I get dizzy and feel like I am going to feint! But I am NOT stressed! I have now had to cut my alcohol right back and sure enough if I don't have alcohol for a few days, I don't get the feeling - my doctor said just don't drink alcohol anymore! That was a great help! Maybe it is all related to the nervous system but am very interested if this is just something I should ignore or if it is a symptom of something more scary! xx
I found this site purely as i was also trying to find out what is wrong with me! I have always been able to drink a lot as I am a very tall female and played rugby etc and and so am used to drinking.
About 3 months ago I woke up one day and I thought my heart was jumping ans skipping beats - I got more and more panicked until I drove myself to hospital. They did all of the tests on me and they were all normal and all I got was a lecture on how to cope with "panic attacks" and "stress". I have never been so happy as I am now so I just don't get it - as I have been so much more stressed in the past. Also I am an ex-cop (for my sins) but just proving I can cope with stress!
They did ECGs everything - it wasn't my heart that was fluttering - and now I have realised it is actually in my stomach. It is a feeling like butterflies like when you are excited - but sometimes it is so bad I get dizzy and feel like I am going to feint! But I am NOT stressed! I have now had to cut my alcohol right back and sure enough if I don't have alcohol for a few days, I don't get the feeling - my doctor said just don't drink alcohol anymore! That was a great help! Maybe it is all related to the nervous system but am very interested if this is just something I should ignore or if it is a symptom of something more scary! xx
this sound like IBS I used to experince the same thing aftr drinking only red wine since i have stopped drinking red wine and fizzy drinks my stomach is not blotted and the stomach crapps are gone if i do drink the above i do take colafac which releave these symptoms
i get woken up by an irritaion in the abdomen evry morning this has been going on for some time now ,when i get out of bed it all disappears when i get back and sleep it comes again ...for the rest of the day i feel sick bloated and weak, been to the Gp done various tests initially i had hyplori which i was given anti biotics for and tests doe after idicated that the bacteria wass off what to now,Gp say i have gastrititis given me several medication bt no change
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