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Ashperic Restor vs. Monofocal for 33 year old eye?

by javadesigner, Oct 22, 2007 12:25AM
Hi:

I am male, 33 years old, with bilateral (and growing) PSC cataracts. Also a huge (and growing number) of floaters as well. Have had many dilated eye exams from very good doctors and there are no retinal complications (although, there may be faint signs of PVD, but no retinal tears or detachment).

I've consulted with some doctors who have performed upwards of 25,000 cataract operations and several thousand Restor implants. (Dr. Christerbury in North Carolina, Dr. Mckool in NYC, some others in teaching hospitals)  

No one can really recommend a lens to me. They've all gone over pros/cons of monofocal (Alcon IQ aspheric, for example) and multifocal (Restor). They've all said that Restor has "good" performance but does leave halos around bright lights which will never go away.
No one is sure whether mono or multi is good for me, everyone has said that although most people are happy with restors, some people are never able to adjust.

Also restor is similar to Monofocal for distance but not great for intermediate vision.

I'm a computer programmer, heavy web surfing, cell phone, video game use. Reading finely printed computer manuals and switching back and forth from the manual to the screen is important to me. I've worn glasses since 14 and have -5.50D in both eyes.

So my questions are:

1) Does the Aspheric restor improve intermediate vision over the previous version ? Does this newer version make going with restor now, a no-brainer ?

2) I've read that with monofocals, vision is quite blurry less than 5 feet inwards. With monofocals, could I switch easily from keyboard, monitor, open manual etc with bifocals or would i have to keep switching glasses to read a monitor 22 inches away vs. a book 12 inches away ? IF this is possible with MONOfocals, then maybe they are a safer option ?

3) Having the ability to read my wristwatch when I get up in the morning or a book to fall asleep to would also be great :-)

4) What other advise would forum members give me ? I really need to get surgery in the next year or so (I have too much glare, halos, smudged vision as of now with PSC). I'm
generally quite fussy (a smudge on my glasses really bothers me) but as I grow older, I think I can learn to compromise/adjust better with whatever type of IOL I choose.

Thanks so much for all your advice and replies.

Best regards,
--j
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Member Comments (57)

by JodieJ, Oct 22, 2007 07:47AM
To: j

by JodieJ, Oct 22, 2007 08:02AM
To: j
There is ample information in the archives of this forum about multifocal problems/issues.  According to the recent medical literature, the best results from a multifocal/accommodating IOL seem to involve the Crystalens, with ReStor second, and ReZoom last.  In your case, getting the Crystalens (set for slight monovision) makes sense to me, especially if you don't have astigmatism.  Frankly, since your work involves computers, getting bilateral ReStors sounds like a terrible idea to me; intermediate (computer) vision is the biggest weakness with this lens.

Getting aspheric monofocal lenses set for monovision or modified monovision (AKA "blended vision") might also be a good choice.  It would give you good vision immediately after surgery, and you'd probably need glasses only for a few activities (like reading small print for a long time.)

So my vote in your case would either be for Crystalens or aspheric monofocals, probably with blended vision.  I'd suggest that you see more than one experienced surgeon and get their recommendations.  

by javadesigner, Oct 22, 2007 10:46AM
To: JodieJ
Jodie:
Crysalens is out, it's too gimmicky and unreliable. I do have very slight (0.5) astigmatism.

I've gone through a lot of the forum archives and read all about the monofocal and multifocal pros/cons. I'm stil very confused and can't figure out what to do! Intermediate is awful with monofocals too (as with restor), so I'd have to wear glasses for computer work with both.

But I won't need glasses for near with restor whereas I would with monofocals. So are the halos etc., an acceptable trade off, especially as one gets older ? That's the question I am trying to wrestle with. Would restors or monofocals (perhaps with -0.5D) would be better to switch back and forth from books, finely printed manuals, cell phone and computer screen (all of which are varyingly situated between 6 inches and 24 inches away from my eye).

by cdn_glenn, Oct 22, 2007 02:47PM
To: j
I have multifocal implants (Tecnis not ReSTOR).

1) Does the Aspheric restor improve intermediate vision over the previous version ? Does this newer version make going with restor now, a no-brainer ?

With my lenses I have an area of "soft focus" between 18" and 4 feet.  I can read text on a computer screen in that zone, but with +1.00 readers I can see the screen and everything in my work area clearly.  For typing and reading copy I often take off my reading glasses.  I have my screen tucked up to the front of the desk (always had it that way).  I can both copy and screen with amazing clarity.  I believe the area of "soft focus" for the ReSTOR is closer to 6 feet, making them the multifocal IOL choice for computer work.

2) I've read that with monofocals, vision is quite blurry less than 5 feet inwards ...

I have quite a few neighbours with monofocal lenses focused for distance.  They need reading glasses for anything close, but can drive and see the speedometer, etc. clearly enough without glasses.  I have one neighbour who chose to have monofocal lenses focused for near vision.  Yes she can see clearly up close, but wears her familiar frames (with a different prescription) for distance.

Jodie's discussion of monovision / blended vision IOLs is workable and is a personal choice, as is selecting a multifocal IOL.  Not to be decided quickly.

3) Having the ability to read my wristwatch when I get up in the morning or a book to fall asleep to would also be great :-)

It's a joy to do this again after years of wearing bifocals.  I can read the morning paper on the train and glance around to see what's happening.  No glasses; no waiting to focus.

4) What other advise would forum members give me ? ...

I can only describe the experience of receiving multifocal IOLs.  Functionally my eyes are as good as they were twenty years ago (I'm 52 now).  I can read the finest of type and see distant objects clearly -- I think better than I could with glasses.  In practice there are some trade offs.  Halos is the big one.  Initially -- first three months -- they were unbearable.  Will these ever go away?  No they won't.  But they've become minimal due to Neuroadaptation -- the brain getting used to seeing through the lenses and filtering out unwanted information.  Halos mostly display at night around bright, distant lights.  It's very workable.  I certainly can operate better than I have for years.  But I'll never see exactly in-the-way I used to.  All said, it was an excellent choice.

Cheers,
Glenn

by MMEE, Oct 22, 2007 04:14PM
To: javadesigner
I have monofocals.  I can read the computer screen without blur at 2 feet.  Within that distance, I use 1.0 readers.  The characters on the car's dashboard are very clear without glasses.   If I squint, I can read most nutrition statements on packaging at the grocery store.  Some of these are small print, but of course, the lighting is  very good in these instances.   I was told before the surgery that I am slightly nearsighted in one eye.
Keep in mind that with regard to cataract surgery, the phrase "Your mileage may vary" seems appropriate when anyone describes their results.

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Oct 22, 2007 07:34PM
If it were me. I would chose a monofocal aspheric IOL and set my dominant right eye at about -1.00 and my non-dominate left eye at -2.50  I would then expect to be able to read and use my computer nicely without glasses. With no line bifocals (the prescription would be RE -1.00  LE -2.50 and +3.00 Add) I would expect to have great night vision and excellent vision and depth perception to do surgery with.

If I wanted to emphasize my distance vision then I would ask the surgeon to shoot for -0.50 for distance and -1.50 for intermediate and wear glasses to read.

JCH III MD Eye Physician & Surgeon

by JodieJ, Oct 22, 2007 07:50PM
To: javadesigner
Much of the available Information about multifocal/accommodating lenses is filled with hype.  I will try to link you to the least biased information I'm aware of.  One of these sources is the report on the 2007 symposium of the American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgery (May 2007).  This forum will not allow me to post the website address, but if you enter the following information into Google, you should be able to find the report:  "EyeQ Report 11 ASCRS lachmanconsulting"  (If you can't find it, I'll send you the website address in a personal email.)  I'll give you a few highlights of the report.  Sales of multifocal IOLs (ReStor, ReZoom) in the US have been on the decline this year.  Among the reasons for this decline are the vision problems associated with multifocals, including glare and haloes, "waxy" or "Vaseline" vision, loss of contrast sensitivity, loss of intermediate vision (ReStor), and the long (up to 12 month) time needed to neuroadapt to multifocal vision.  Bilateral implantation of the Crystalens in now considered to be the "ideal" correction, at least among the surgeons attending the 2007 symposium.  In an informal survey, when the surgeons were asked which lens they would choose to have implanted in their own eyes, 43% chose Crystalens, 16% chose Restor, and 8% chose ReZoom.  (BTW, the Tecnis multifocal lens described above by Glenn has not yet received FDA approval, so it is not available in the US.)

Dr. Hagan, one of the forum M.D.'s, recently gave the results of a new study comparing multifocal/accommodating lenses in which some of his associates participated.  As I recall, the Crystalens yielded the best visual outcomes, with ReStor second and ReZoom third.  (Please try to find the post in the recent archives, so you can get the info first-hand.)

The other alternative for you would be getting aspheric monofocal lenses set for monovision or modified monovision (AKA "blended" vision).  This would give you excellent distance and intermediate vision and fair-to-very good near vision (depending on the correction).  If possible, you might consider trying out a full monovision correction with contact lenses to see if monovision would be an option for you.  This would probably be my first choice in your situation (but our priorities may differ.)

Your best bet might be to consult a surgeon who is experienced with more than one of the multifocal/accommodated lenses as well as with "blended" vision.  I don't think your astigmatism would be a problem except perhaps with ReStor, which is supposed to be very sensitive to even minimal astigmatism.  I hope that the forum M.D.'s can provide further insights for you.  Best wishes.      

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Oct 22, 2007 08:08PM
One of the things that everyone needs to know is that there is no "BEST" answer. No BEST implant. Different people will have different expectations. The surgeon cannot decide what is best for you.

As a young person you want good night visiion. As a myope you're use to wearing glasses and also having good vision at near without glasses.

Without being presumptious your best choice might be as I outline above in my "what would I do" posting.

JCH III MD   Ophthalmologist

by javadesigner, Oct 23, 2007 01:53AM
Hi everyone:

Thanks for all your replies. I've been on the internet since the days of NCSA Mosaic and I must say, this forum is among the best I've encountered in many years.

When something as basic as vision starts to go awry, one appreciates the human eye a whole lot more than taking it all for granted.

I just read this really great simulation of nighttime halos with different multifocals. Here's the
link:

http://www.eyeworld.org/article.php?sid=4036

After looking at that simulation, I think I'll probably go with monofocal lenses. More certaintly in the end result, better in low-light and I don't mind wearing glasses..worn them since 14 and I look better with glasses anyway :-)

It's a pain to have to keep taking glasses off/on all the time though. I see my dad (who needs readers now) has also become more reluctant to read things than before..because of the additional effort required to put his glasses on for reading.

Does anyone in this forum (with monofocals) also wear 24x7 progressive glasses with the far part clear (no rx) and the rest set as progressive ? That way, one is free to read anything, anytime one wants, with no extra effort...

Anyway, thanks again for all your suggestions and comments.

by JodieJ, Oct 23, 2007 09:21AM
To: javadesigner
I have both bifocal contacts and progressive glasses with no distance script.  I did not want monovision or "blended vision" because I have a (rare) history of strabismus related to monovision contact lens wear, and both my eyes are plano post cataract surgery.  But I really think the type of blended vision that Dr. Hagan suggested above would be the best choice for most people.

My reaction to the Eyeworld article was different than yours.  I thought it made Alcon's ReStor lens look like the superior product, with "manageable" halos.  Then I read that the article's first author was a paid consultant for Alcon, and I concluded that this was really more of an advertisement than a scientific publication.

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Oct 23, 2007 11:20AM
Medical research sponsored by a drug company or medical equipment manufacturer does not necessarily taint research findings. It is good that almost all medical meetings and medical journals (including the one I edit) now require Disclosure Statements identifiying possible conflicts of interest.

JCH III MD

by JodieJ, Oct 24, 2007 09:18AM
To: Dr. Hagan
I'm glad to know about the current Disclosure Statement requirement.  But it still makes it very hard for prospective patients (and maybe some doctors) to get accurate information, without the hype or the slanted perspective.  (In the above study, for example, was the goal an objective effort to compare the performance of three multifocal lenses?  Or was it to design a study with conditions which would make one lens look superior?)  This forum is one of the few (only?) places I'm aware of that provides frank, direct advice about choosing an IOL--and this is certainly a valuable service.

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Oct 24, 2007 12:46PM
Okay for the record, I am not a paid consultant for any drug company or ophthalmic manufacturer.
As Editor of Missouri Medicine and leader in the state, I try and set a good example and also pass up free dinners and lunches sponsored by drug companies. I do acccept free drug samples which are given to patients and save them tens of thousands of dollars/year. I do not own stock in any drug companies nor do any of my family.

JCH III MD

by JodieJ, Oct 24, 2007 05:26PM
To: Dr. Hagan
That makes your opinions about IOL options all the more valuable to the readers of this forum.  I hope that more people are linked to this website BEFORE they have cataract surgery.

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Oct 24, 2007 09:31PM
The most recent statistics on the Two Eye Forums for the past 3 months indicate that it is one of the fastest growing sites on MedHelp.org.

JCH III MD

by BobbieB, Oct 30, 2007 08:35PM
To: I dont' know what to do.
I just had one ReStor lens in my left eye. I had been wearing mono contacts for around 20 years. The surgery was fine...nothing bad. Now, I have a flickering on the other vision of the implant. I cant' read without my glasses at a normal reading distance. The distant vision is awesome...very clear and far. I have to have glasses now on here at my computer is at at normal distance. Or, I can read the computer at about 30 plus inches awaw or more. I dont' like to have to be soooo far away from my screen. I need to decide if I want this implant taken out and a mon focal put in and the another in the other eye....now. They want to change if needed to, withing three weeks after surgery, Yesterday was two weeks. I need help but dont' have anyone to talk with about this. BobbieiB

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Oct 30, 2007 08:47PM
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by JodieJ, Oct 31, 2007 12:36PM
To: BobbieB
First, be sure that an explant procedure will be covered by your insurance.  Then make certain that your surgeon is experienced doing IOL explants.  Finally, you need to decide whether the potential improvement in your vision is worth the risk of having more surgery.  (Since you have a history of successful monovision contact lens wear, you would be very likely to be happy with surgical monovision with aspheric monofocal IOLs.)

by seriousperson, Nov 01, 2007 10:53PM
Sounds like the Tecnis would be worth waiting for. After I had my surgery (crystalens in one eye, ReStor in the other), for at least the first year I was overwhelmed with regret that I had not waited for further developments in intraocular lenses.
javadesigner, your pre-op eye condition and life style mirrors my own.
I hope you are satisfied with your choice, whatever you decide.

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Nov 01, 2007 11:32PM
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by BobbieB, Nov 04, 2007 08:32PM
To: Jodiej
Thanks for the reply, I did ask about if the insurance will pay for the change and the nurse said yes,. I was ok on last thursday, but nothing good since that...to me it's almost like I'm blind in the outer half of that eye with the ReStor implant...but it has cleared up and was ok for some time...but not much. I have to wear my glasses to see good at close and arm length, like  working in the kitchen, which is where I like to be most of the time... I might like the monofocals but now afraid it will be too late to change them also, how bad is it to keep going into the eye.seems like that alone could be bad and damage the eye. BobbieB

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Nov 04, 2007 09:43PM
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by JodieJ, Nov 04, 2007 11:19PM
To: BobbieB
You are only about three weeks post-surgery.  Given your 20 years of successful monovision contact lens wear, I think it's extremely likely that you'd be happy with monovision with aspheric monofocal IOLs.  I believe that the forum doctors have commented elsewhere that an explant is safe, especially if it is done early in the healing process process by a surgeon who is experienced doing this procedure.  I'm guessing that you are only in your 60's, so what's at stake is your vision for the next 20+ years.  In your place, I'd probably opt for the explant, because the vision you describe with the ReStor might drive me crazy.  But only you can weigh the risks and benefits of an explant in your situation, after discussing your options with your surgeon.  Best of luck, and keep us posted.

Jodie      

by jefields, Nov 05, 2007 08:12AM
To: javadesigner
I based my decision of which implant lenses to get mostly on the type work I do, how I spend my free time, what level of inconvenience I would consider keeping up with different glasses. In the last six weeks, I had a Crystalens implant in my left eye, and three weeks later, a ReStor in the right eye (left eye dominant). This is working great for computer use. In fact, the afternoon after my Crystalens surgery, I was sitting at the computer enjoying not needing glasses and being able to see my screen extrememly well (I did have to lower the screen's brightness, due to dilated eyes). Reading was good too, as long as it wasn't really small print and the lighting was decent.

Distance was the problem for me with the Crystalens, as beyond 4-5 feet, everything starting getting blurry. That's why my surgeon asked me to consider a ReStor lens for the right eye. So that's what I chose and can see very well to drive. If I didn't have that Crystalens in the other eye though, I would definitely have to have glasses for the computer and reading. Reading with the ReStor is okay if the print is really close (like about 8").

The halos are there and I'm learning over time that they become less bothersome. But they really only bother me when I'm driving at night, which isn't something I do much of. If my job or lifestyle required lots of nighttime driving, I would have had to consider other choices. For me, this combination is working out really well, and continues to improve.

Good luck with your decision. Please keep us posted.

jefields

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Nov 05, 2007 08:23AM
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by Ashley52, Nov 05, 2007 10:04AM
To: All
It's working out pretty well for me too. Crystalens/ReStor combo. Though I don't have the intermediate right now, the surgeon assures me I will once he gets my astigmatism corrected with relaxing limbal incisions. I guess what none of us will never know is how we would have fared with monofocal lenses set for monovision.  My sister has it and she is happy but then she doesn't work in an office where she needs to constantly switch from near to intermediate to distance. After I had the first eye done, it drove me crazy to be without a contact in the other eye, so essentially didn't I have monovision?  If so, it wouldn't have worked for me. My daily tasks mirror these other folks as I am an accountant who works on computer all day.

by JodieJ, Nov 05, 2007 10:39AM
No, Ashley52, you didn't have monovision.  You had one Crystalens eye and one highly myopic eye.  About the only way to cope with that situation is full time contact lens wear in the myopic eye, which worked very well for me during the time between my surgeries.  For people who can tolerate monovision, it can provide functional distance, intermediate, and near vision--without any problems switching the focus.  For others, modified monovision (AKA "blended vision") can provide very good vision at two distances (intermediate/near or distant/intermediate) but needing a weak prescription for the third.

Congratulations, Ashley52 and jefields, on your success with a Crystalens/ReStor combo.  I predict further improvement for you both in the near future.  

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Nov 05, 2007 10:43AM
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by Ashley52, Nov 06, 2007 10:14AM
To: JodieJ
I guess I am confused.  My sister said that after her first monofocal implant she could see great (and she was as myopic as I was) so she asked her surgeon to do the second eye to match her current vision in that eye (sans cataract of course).  What is the difference?

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Nov 06, 2007 10:26AM
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by JodieJ, Nov 06, 2007 09:21PM
To: Ashley52
Are you saying that your sister wanted both eyes to have the same vision?  That would probably give her great distance vision but she'd need readers for near/intermediate.

Monovision generally involves about a 2D difference between the eyes, with the dominant eye plano and the nondominant eye around -2D.  This provides functional vision at all distances--distant, intermediate and near.  (If one eye is plano and the other is, say -6D, the difference would be too much for most people to tolerate, even with glasses.  Wearing a contact lens in the myopic eye would be about the only solution.)

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Nov 06, 2007 11:20PM
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by Ashley52, Nov 09, 2007 04:04PM
To: JodieJ
No.  She was going to get distance correction in both eyes until she had her first surgery.  Then she changed her mind.
She swears she could see great for both distance and near immediately after her first monofocal implant. The only reason she had the second surgery at all was because she had a beginning cataract in that eye. The only thing I can think is that she must not have been as myopic as she claims.

What you describe is what I experienced.  After I had the Crystalens, I had to wear contact in the other eye 18 hours a day.  Going without, as I had to do for 3 days before my second surgery, was very disconcerting.  

by JodieJ, Nov 09, 2007 08:32PM
To: Ashley52
I've read that people who have very small pupils have a wider range of focus.  Maybe that's your sister's situation.  But what makes for "great" distance and near vision may be relative.  If you're used to impaired vision due to a cataract, then maybe being slightly myopic post-surgery would seem "great" (and also provide functional vision at more than one distance).  I think that the two of us had very high standards for our post-surgery vision because our pre-surgery vision was already very good.

I don't know how you survived the three days without the contact before your second surgery.  My surgeon had initially wanted me to do the same, but then let me wear my contact until the day of my second surgery.  It would have been extremely hard for me to function without the contact.

I hope your astigmatism correction makes for a big improvement.  I think that you'll ultimately be satisfied with your vision despite the rough beginning.

by 72vo, Mar 20, 2008 11:57PM
To: Dr. Hagan
At 72 years I require cataract surgery.  I now wear contact lenses for physical activities like tennis and otherwise wear progressive lenses to correct 5D and 3.5 D myopia plus astigmatism in one eye.  I want IOLs that give me the best possible far vision with good intermediate vision and I don't mind wearing glasses for reading as long as I can also use the same glasses, if needed, for computer work.  I absolutely don't want to deal with halos when driving at night.  My doctor recommends Alcon AquaSoft monofocus IOLs.  Is this the best IOL choice for me?

72vo

  

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Mar 22, 2008 12:05AM
To: FROM EYE MD
If you have confidence in your surgeon then you should probably let him/her use the MONOFOCAL IOL that he/she is most comfortable with. Our practice uses Tecnis aspheric IOLs, which we belive at as of 3/21/08 is the best monofical IOL on the US market.

you should consider about -0.25 for distance and about -1.25 for intermediate and you will need reading glasses.

JCH III MD

by 72vo, Mar 31, 2008 06:29PM
To: Eye Doc
Besides my emphasis achieving the best distant vision possible, I am somewhat concerned about post-op near-vision acuity with monofocal IOL.  Even with glasses I don't expect to see as well as I see now with my myopic eyes sans glasses.  Should I consider Crystalens to give me everything I want, great acuity and great relative contrast at all distances.  I suspect this is a pipe dream after reading the postings here.  But I'm not sure in which situations Crystalens would diappoint me.  Given the expected compromises of each approach do you think I would be better served with monofocal Tecnis or multifocal Crystalens?  With my -3.5D, -5D with astigmatism, am I a viable candidate for Crystalens?

Another concerm is my right eye astigmatism, now corrected with Toric contact lens or refractive correction in glasses.  How will the astigmatism correction be implemented with either type IOL?  Is astigmatism correction, however accomplished, generally an added cost item?  

What is the expected useful life of the IOLs?  Do they yellow like most plastics from UV and aging?

Finally, when a better IOL becomes available that that is devoid of most present limitations, can the presently implanted IOL be easily (financially speaking) extracted and exchanged for the future IOL?  My doctor mentioned if laser is used to adjust vision, for example to correct for haloes after IOL is implanted, the IOL can never be removed.  Why is that?
Thanks,
72vo.

by JodieJ, Mar 31, 2008 09:22PM
To: 72vo
Astigmatism can be corrected with limbal relaxing incisions, a toric iol, or other refractive procedures (like LASIK).  If you have significant astigmatism, you won't see well without glasses/contacts at any distance.

IOLs are meant to last the remainder of your lifetime.  I wouldn't count on replacing them years into the future.  I seriously doubt that the Crystalens (or anything currently available) would give you everything you want.  However, you do have several options that will give you very good vision.  If you're at a point where your cataracts are an issue, why not schedule consultations with 2-3 experienced surgeons in your area to get their recommendations for you.

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Apr 01, 2008 10:59PM
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by 72vo, Apr 16, 2008 10:45PM
To: Eye Doc
My first eye doc claims he has the best equipment in the world to make the most accurate measurements for prescribing IOLs that yield the best acuity, contrast, etc., and that others in his business are using older, outdated equipment that is not a good.  What is the state-of-the-art equipment today?  Why is it better than older equipment?  I am seeing second Doc. tomorrow for his recommendations, and will let you know.  Thanks.
72vo

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Apr 16, 2008 11:12PM
You can get to work in a 2008 cadillac or a 2000 Chevy Nova. Newer is not always better, most expensive is not almost the best. The important thing is does it give good reliable, repeatable results.

Also even the most modern equipment is no better than the physicians or technicians using them. I would take a excellent technicians using an older IOL power instrument rather than a shoddy technician using a brand new IOL power instrument.

JCH III MD

by telya, Apr 26, 2008 10:39PM
To: JHC III, MD
I appreciate the info here so much.
I had my right eye cataract surgery on Wednesday of this week.
I am having the other eye done in about 10 days.
I am having so much trouble decifering the answer to help me choose.
I want the best distance vision I can get, the crispest and clearest.
I don't mind wearing reading glasses or even progressive glasses with
clear on top for distance and intermediate if I have to and reading prescription.  I have two questions please before next week.
1.  Is distance and contrast and clarity better in monofocals both set for distance vision or one distance and one intermediate?  How much do I give up on distance vision and depth perception and contrast to have one set for intermediate?
2.  If I need glasses for reading after having one set for distance and one for intermediate so all I need is a reading prescription, can I have them leave the tops of the glasses with no correction and have the reading inset
a bit higher in the glasses than usual so as to not have to tilt my head so far down to read?  My husband hates that he has to do that to read, hurts his neck?
3.  Ok, one more question, please.  I had the right dominant eye set for distance with the aspheric SofPort AO so if this Technuis lens is so great, can I have a monofocal Technis set for intermediate or distance and mix the lenes or is that bad for some reason?  Also, if I have one implant set for intermediate will that vision ever change and what do you do  then since it's an implant?

Thank you so much.
If you have any way to get this answered quickly, please so .  I have to decide fast.  Sorry.
I had forgotten how colorful the world is and am very grateful for the implant I just got.

by John C Hagan III, MD, FACS, Apr 26, 2008 10:56PM
1. If you plan on wearing glasses most or all the time you probably won't notice much difference either way. Most people are happy with one eye distance and the other intermediate distance (about -1.25) that way they can see to shop, computers, read in good light, shave, put on make up all without glasses.
2. Most people get progressive bifocals with their custom RX in both lens. That way when they're "on" you have the best possible vision distance and middle and near.  The thing about lifing up the chin to see intermediate can be corrected with a second pair called "computer glasses" the distance vision is removed and the glasses only have intermediate and near. There is no chin lift at all for computer use.
3. You would want to use the Tecnis aspheric IOL  only if your surgeon is comfortable using it. Otherwise go with his/her recommendation. Do not expect your RX to change much after 6 weeks. If something does change then the changes are incorporated into new glasses.

JCH III MD

by telya, Apr 27, 2008 05:29PM
To: JCH III MD and anyone with advice
Thank you so much for your advice.
I checked and my right lens card they implanted says +16.5D.  That is my distance eye.
Does that sound odd?  I did have LRI to relax and correct astigmatism.
YOu all have been talking in say like -1.25, etc.
I am stupid about such things.

Anyway, I take it that I'd be ok then going with the other eye with SofPort also?
And that if I have it set for blended which would I assume be like intermediate vision, not
near (reading) then I'll have as crisp and far a distance vision without glasses for distance?
Sorry to ask to verify but I'm just so excited about seeing clearly again that I want
my distance vision and night vision to be the best it can be.

Straight to the point:  If I decide to have both lenses set for binocular distance, I'd be looking at (tell me if this is pretty much right on, please)  one set of glasses for the computer and one everyday all the time pair with intermediate on top and reading on bottom but I'd have absolutely(?) NO better distance vision and night vision than if I got the blended where one eye is set to intermediate?   If so, why would anyone have binocular distance vision ever?
What's the gain?  Why not blended for everyone?  Then just glasses for reading?
I cannot tell you how I am agonizing over the right choice here.
Is there any long term danger that you know of with either choice such as I read somewhere that strabismus experts feel one of these choices is a strain on the eyes and could cause some muscle damage.  NOT what I want after all this.  Which setting is that and what other dangers are possible for either choice?
Thank you again so much for your time.
I cannot get these questions answered anywhere else.
Bless you all.
I stress again, I want my driving distance and night vision to be good.
I want my choice to not cause my eyes any harm in the long term.

by JodieJ, Apr 27, 2008 05:58PM
To: telya
I have both eyes set for distance with aspheric IOLs made by Alcon.  I have a history of strabismus, so I wanted both my eyes set to the same focal point. One pair of progressive glasses gives me excellent vision at all distances.  I also have bifocal contacts.

Having both eyes set for distance will give you slightly better distance/night vision than if you had blended vision, but the difference probably wouldn't make much (any?) difference to most people.  The advantage of blended vision is the ability to perform intermediate vision tasks (and even some near vision tasks) without glasses or contacts.

If you have no history of strabismus, I'm sure you'll do fine with blended vision.  From what I've read, the SofPort is an excellent lens.  

by telya, Apr 27, 2008 07:12PM
To: JodieJ and anyone
You are too fantastic to answer that question for me.  Thank you soooooo much more than I can tell you.
That gives me an idea ( I do realize it can be different for each person)
of how much difference I might expect between blended eye's night and distance vision and both set for distance.  Valuable info for me.
Now, can anyone tell me if I check with my doc and see whether I have ever had strabismus, let's say she says I have not, will I get it from blended implants?  It is a risk and if so, how big a % of a risk?
I think I read that it occurs more in strict monovision where one is set for distance and one for reading because there is such a wide setting between eyes but am not sure if that also applies to blended, one set for distance, one for intermediate since there is not as wide a difference?
So much to learn.
Thank you so much.

by JodieJ, Apr 27, 2008 07:39PM
To: telya
If you had strabismus, you would not need to check on this--you'd already know it.  So I don't think you need to worry.  Your doctor can see if you have a phoria (aka "latent strabismus") by covering one of your eyes and seeing if the other eye turns in/out, although this might not even be an issue with blended vision.  Dr. Burton Kushner at the University of Wisconsin is probably the worldwide authority in this area.

Best wishes for an excellent outcome.


  

by 72vo, Apr 27, 2008 09:52PM
To: Eye Doc
My cosultation with 2nd doc produced the following recommedation: Toric IOLs for both eyes eventhough I have astigmatism in right eye only.  He also recommends -0.75 difference between the two IOLs instead of the -0.25 and -1.25 you recommended for far/intermediate.  I have four questions: (1) Is Toric IOL better choice than limbal relaxing incisions for correcting aproximately 1D astigmatism? (2) Is there a better IOL alternative to Toric IOL for the non-astigmatic eye (doc claims it's best to use same IOL for both eyes)? (3) Why do you recommend -0.25 for far vision (I am assuming 0.00 produces optimal far vision)? (4) do you recommend UV filtering in the IOLs, and is this an option?
Thank you.
72vo

by val42, Mar 06, 2009 07:48AM
I just signed up to get ReStor multifocal lenses in both eyes post cataract surgery for a total of $4500.  I am having 2nd thoughts, especially after reading the postings.  I like Dr. Hagan's idea of the -0.25 for far & -1.25 for intermediate, but I have been back to the doctor twice and don't have the nerve to go again.  He probably thinks I'm a nut for being so indecisive.  (The first time I just said OK to surgery, did not ask what kind of lenses, etc, so I assume they would both have been far vision with reading glasses, then I saw other choices on the internet & went back).  I don't mind wearing reading glasses, I just don't want to have to go around with a pair of glasses hanging from a rope around my neck!  If this forum is still going on, can you give me some advice?  Luckily, my surgery is not scheduled til April.

by val42, Mar 06, 2009 07:58AM
PS:  My surgeon said he was going to use ReStor & on the box it would say D-1
I can't find any listing like that to research.  I did find a study which said+ 3.0 D was better than +4.0 D, but this means nothing to me.  I emailed the surgeon's tech to ask which he was going to use, and she has not answered.  What does all this mean?

by JodieJ, Mar 06, 2009 08:16AM
To: val42
If your doctor had given you more information about all your options initially, then you would not need to be going back to see him.  The option suggested by Dr. Hagan is excellent for many people.  My friend who has this type of correction only needs glasses for prolonged reading or seeing small print, and he had excellent vision from day 1 post-op (and no out-of-pocket surcharge to pay.)

This thread is about a year old, and there have been a few improvements in IOL technology.  There is now a new aspheric ReStor model offering some improvement in intermediate vision.  (If driving at night is important to you, the ReStor would probably not be a good choice.)  And many people posting here have been happy with their results with the new Crystalens HD.

I'd suggest that you do a little more research on this forum, focusing on the 2009 threads.  Make a list of your questions and concerns.  Then call your doctor's office to set up an appointment to discuss them with him and/or his staff.  It's your vision, after all.

by val42, Mar 06, 2009 08:53AM
To: JodieJ
Thank you.  I know I should go back.  I will just have to get over my embarrassment.  I may go to a different surgeon as there is another practice here that I am familiar with.  
I will try to find the 2009 threads, but I am new at this.
I appreciate all the info because it is such an important decision and one that is not easily undone.
I had noticed a lot of comments from you & wonder if you are a medical professional?

by JodieJ, Mar 06, 2009 11:52AM
To: val42
Getting a second opinion might be a good idea.  But you shouldn't be embarrassed to go back to the first doctor for more information.  (He should be embarrassed for not informing you about all the options in the first place.)

I'm not an eye care professional--just a fairly knowledgeable patient who has had a few eye problems.  I think that the type of correction recommended by Dr. Hagan would be your best bet for a problem-free outcome.  But you would need glasses for prolonged reading and seeing small print (not that this would be so bad.)  Another good alternative might be the Crystalens HD.  Dr. Oyakawa has posted information about this option during the past few months.  If you do go for the Crystalens HD, it's important to have a surgeon who is experienced with it.

Best wishes for an excellent outcome.

by peakhope, Mar 07, 2009 10:15AM
To: val42
Your eyes are important enough to be worth a little embarrassment, if that's what it takes to get it right.

Monovision as suggested by Dr. Hagen works well for a lot of people, but for me it just sounded too weird. Plus I wanted full stereo vision at all distances. So I ended up with the Crystalens HD's myself. But for other people either monofocals set at one distance, monovision, or Restor lenses might be the right choice.

If your corrected vision is still good enough, you might try monovision contact lenses to see whether you like it or not before having it done in the form of permanent surgery.

Take your time, do your research, choose your doctor carefully, and realize that: 1) There is no single perfect lens yet, 2) regardless of any statistics, your outcome may be better or worse than you expected, and 3) with any medical procedure, things can go wrong that are nobody's fault.

by ace399, Mar 07, 2009 11:14AM
To: val42
Val,
I have both the Crystalens HD and the newest Restor.  Although the new Restor is improved by extending the near to about 2 ft, the CL HD is still clearer from 2 ft to ~ 6 ft.

If you can get accommodation, the CL HD is a really good way to go.  However, you cannot determine pre-surgery whether you will get accommodation.  In my case, I had very limited accommodation with the CL HD after 1 week post op.  So my Dr. recommended the Restor for the other eye.

The Restor does allow me to read the computer screen and 11 pt type WORD doc's in good lighting without glasses, but I have to use reading glasses for news print and fine print books.

The CL HD gives really good vision from the start, but the Restor requires the brain to adjust.  It creates a near and far image, which the brain sorts out.  It's working out for me, but is definitely not for everyone.

Depending on how myopic you are, the monofocal IOL's can be an excellent way to go for really clear vision and no compromises in vision.  The only compromise is the use of eye glasses.  Multifocal IOL's are definitely more risky, with a much higher potential for a poor outcome.

by val42, Mar 07, 2009 01:27PM
To: peakhope,ace399
Thank you for your comments.  I have just about decided to forgo ReStor.  My doctor did not mention using Crystalens.  I plan to ask for the Blended Monovision (or is it Blended Monofocal??) -- anyway, the one with one eye far & the other intermediate.  I used to wear contact lenses years ago with one eye for near & one for far, so I think this will work.  I don't mind wearing reading glasses for small print or lengthy sessions.  I just don't want the glasses around my neck thing.
I do realize, as you have said, that results vary & there may be complications. I'm sure it will be just my luck to have to have him "tweak" the lenses afterwards with a laser because he charges $2100 for that!
Thank you again for the comments.  I will let you know what happens!

by gobal, Aug 04, 2009 11:11AM
I was the 72 year old with vision problem. After reading the various queries and comments I feel I should fill in more details of my problem , perhaps I might then get some help. I had cataract in both my eyes and had difficulty reading anything beyond 20 feet. I am shorted sighted and suffer from astigmatism, both the latter conditions since my early teens. I had cataract surgery done in my right eye in December 2007, but it was a failure. The posterior capsule got punctured during surgery. It was successfully corrected by another very capable surgeon in March 2008. In July 2008 I had a fall and hit the back of my head quite severely. After a couple of weeks after the fall I developed bleariness, especially the periphery  in my right eye. This was diagnosed as retinal detachment and by the time my surgeon who was on long leave saw me, the retina was 100% detached. It was corrected and I can now see quite well with glass, in fact better than the left eye. I need to change my spectacles now. I need advice as to what type of lens to obtain.  
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