Low abdominal pain/fluttering on waking

[ebjb]

I wake each morning with a strange fluttering in my lower abdomen (really low down) which turns to pain (right along the scar from previous surgery long ago) The pain then travels up to the middle of my stomach and across each side. doesn't matter what way I turn in bed, pain is there. As soon as I get out of bed the pain goes! There are some times during the day I get similar symptoms, but mostly when I waken in morning. I've had bladder/kidney scan and abdominal X ray - all clear, now waiting to go to colo-rectal clinic. Any advice would be appreciated as I'm not getting much sleep because of this.

[ebjb]

Thanks for this - I was thinking along the lines of adhesions - I'll try anything to get rid of this weird sensation.

[PPhelps]

Adhesions are painful little buggers. But there is a deep tissue message called body rolling that I was told about from a wonderful woman on another forum. I'll copy and paste the information below for you. I had surgery last year because of adhesions. The only thing with surgery is that is what causes adhesions kinds a double edged sword. But try this:

As we get older it is as if some of our insides "glue together" and that this releases much of the gluing because of all the blood, thus oxygen, it brings to the area. It seems to break up the adhesions and it worked for me. She intended to teach elderly people because the "gluing" is so bad as we age if we don't treat it. I figured that if it worked for adhesions that formed naturally in our body, it should work for surgical adhesions.

It is truly amazing. I noticed a HUGE difference immediately. When I sat up after the fist time I did this (about a 15 min. session) I could feel a "FLOOD" or a Rush of blood or something! going to that area. After having pain about 40 times an HOUR for over a year and a half after my surgery, my pain decreased to only about 10 times a DAY for a few seconds at a time. I did this procedure again about a week after the first one and that gave me even more relief. I think it was about four months til I had to do it again. Now I do it about once a year, if that. I have been virtually pain free, ,aside from a dull ache now and then, from adhesions since learning this technique.

The idea is you want to get the blood to the bone, not just the muscle....so it floods the tendons and gets lots of oxygen there to start healing and breaking up the adhesions.

**My instructor told me to think of a steak and how the tendon is sort of splotchy with blood where it is attached to the bone...well, you want to get the blood totally to the bone so as to really break things up. Regular massage is not "deep" enough.


The ball I used measures 16 inches. Again, though, I did not get the ball thru the website (Body rolling is a dot com, one word, and you can learn about the woman who developed the technique. Anyway, I got just an ordinary ball in a toy section at Target and it looked similar to the one the instructor had used. The ball I have has a picture of Blues Clues on it! Hey, it works. It probably is bigger than the ones they recommend, but, if you think about it, it is squishy to the point where once all my weight is on it, it probably shrinks down to about ten inches. And, I just put my "front" onto the ball for the pelvic pain and not my back.

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Here is how I did it...leaning my body wt. into it, literally placing the ball underneath me and "rolling" on it...slowly.

I would lay on the pubic bone and then take about four minutes or so to SLOWLY (while remembering to take deep breaths now and then) work my way out to the right side where the ovary once was on that side. After you get there, go back slowly to the pubic bone...breathe deeply. When you get to the pubic bone again, then go to the other side, following a path, if you will, of where you imagine the falopian tube once was. So, you are rolling in something like a "V" formation. After you get to the left side where the ovary once was, then go back to the pubic bone...and, you are done. But, take about 15 minutes to do the whole procedure.

[norder]

I too have that fluttering. I've had it for 4 years now and can't find out what it is. Sometimes it really gets me almost hysterical because it's like something alive inside me. The GP just thinks it's me being too aware of intestine movements but it isn't. I have adhesions from previous surgery and I suspect this is what's causing it; adhesions caught round a nerve. They irritate the  nerve only when I'm lying down but when I stand up the colon goes crazy. If I stay in bed I can track the fluttering right down the colon. I had endoscopy and barium enema which only showed the colon to be tied up. I also have horrific pain with it in the back of my hip. I knwo one other lady who gets this fluttering with adhesions. No one seems to know the answer.