Vagus nerve

[belita857]

I am having  the similar problems.  I feel dizzy and then my heart starts racing and I feel like I need to have a bowel movement. It is very scary.


This discussion is related to VAGUS NERVE and STOMACH or HEART LURCHES (spasms).

[patient915]

There is no need to be impolite.  I am just trying to help people get their questions answered.  I never said that this post shouldn't be read or looked at for information.  I think this is a very informative post that is great for people to look at to get information.  However, because it is so old, people are asking questions on this that are never being answered.  If they ask their questions on their own post, they are more likely to get answered.  By "outdated" I mean that the ideas that were brought up in the beginning of this thread, may not be accurate anymore.  As a community leader, I can let you know that in the future, MedHelp will probably make posts over a year old available for reading, but not for posting anymore.  I am not trying to be mean, I am truely just trying to help people get their questions answered, so I would like for you to be kind too.

[LindaTX]

Hey, I just read back through this thread and noticed it is an ongoing thread, not an "outdated" thread, as you mentioned.  Lots of valuable information in this thread. Leave it alone!  Comprende' Patient?

[LindaTX]

This is the first thread I ever posted on.  You can see my enthusiasm and appreciation for finding so much information....yes, this thread maybe 1 1/2 yrs old but much can be gained from reading it.  It is one of the best threads on here....and threads are resurrected on here all the time.  Wnen someone like pinkshell and the others post...it does become a new post and it does get updated.  Most of us have the reminder's list that brings up these older posts just like the comments on the brand new posts.  No post will ever contain the same info and some of these old posts bring up the best.  If MH is so concerned about them being outdated then maybe they should just remove them....but I think that would be a big mistake and a disservice to the members here.  Maybe that's why MH has left them, and justifiably so, alone. ;)

[patient915]

To all that have posted recently: You have responded to an old, outdated thread from 2008.  The people who originally posted these comments may very well have moved on.  Rather than reply to an old thread, we recommend that people start a new topic to discuss the subject anew.  To do that, please click on the green "Post a Question" button at the top of the page.  This will get your post the attention it deserves. Thank you.

[pinkshell]

Love and sympathy to all who have posted on this forum.  Along with the rest of you, I also suffer from these nasty attacks.  I first started experiencing these nasty symptoms when I was pregnant with my last child and like many of you on this  forum my heart was beating out of control accompanied with arrhythmia.  The night before I had downed a huge steak which was largely undigested the next morning. I remember bending over to clean something on the floor and Whamoo! that was the end of my life as I new it and the beginning of this palpitating, arrhymic, indigestion reality that I now try to live.  I was 28 weeks pregnant at the time. It went on for hours and hours, the rhythm would be normal and then it would start up again. I had my husband take me to emergency.  I nearly passed out with the erratic heart rhythms on the way in. I was tested, ECG, blood tests and the like and nothing!  I was given a large dose of Mylanta and noticed the symptoms drastically reduce but they have never completely left me since this time.  I noticed  a couple of weeks before this major attack I was having alot of reflux which I thought was just pregnancy related and months prior I would notice a little skipped beat here and there, usually after a meal but nothing that really worried me. I have tried water with gastrolyte powder for electrolyte imbalance, magnesium citrate (very easily absorbed), PHion (american company), a powder form of magnesium & potassium citrate along with iron citrate etc to keep body ph alkaline.  I have tried increasing my iron levels (I was quite low) with easily absorbable forms such as citrate & Spatone. I have tried ulcer medications (to reduce stomach acidity), I have tried chiropractic, massage, anti anxiety medication, aloe vera juice and threelac which you buy off the internet for candida infection, all to no avail.  One thing I have noticed though, I took 3 different antibiotics over a course of 10 days and believe it or not the symptoms were almost non existent until my mother inlaw gave me a tin full of home baked bikkies, and of course, I over indulged and within a day all the symptoms were back. I also take digestive enzymes with every meal but this doesn't always seem to help.  I have also tried betaine hydrochloride (to increase stomach acid). Overall, when my stomach doesn't feel right you can bet your bottom dollar I will get the usual dose of arrhythmia's and when my stomach feels good (not very often) I hardly experience them at all.  One thing I can tell you is white flour products, carbonated drinks, icecream, chocolate even grainy products such as muesli bars, breads etc will trigger the palpitations even before I get the stomach symptoms.  I have noticed, when my stomach  is not feeling the best, I put the food into my mouth and even before I start swallowing the palps start. Could this be my own internal doctor warning me? I am now  going to try virgin coconut oil (read about it on the web). Apparently it kills H.pylori and other microbes and parasites but the kilojoule content worries me although they say it increases your metabolism and helps you to lose weight (I can only hope!) Along with my many other theories as to why these palps occur I am now thinking it is H.pylori which is an extremely resilient parasite hence the temporary relief with antibiotic treatment I mentioned earlier in this post? In the early months of my pregnancy I had all day sickness so the only thing I lived on for 3 months was orange juice (bottled) and yogurt. Note: very acidic food. Coupled  with pregnancy and diet bringing down my immunity hence H.pylori overgrowth? The erosion of the stomach lining that this causes overtime irritates the vagus nerve (heart palps) via the stomach hence the growing intolerance to acidic foods that further irritate stomach lining. Remember the days prior to this that you could indulge from time to time without all these symptoms we now experience? This H.pylori has the ability to alter the normal digestive environment hence intolerance to acidic or hard to digest foods. This creates gas pressure from indigestion which presses on the heart and irritates the vagus nerve via stomach and esophagus as the acid is pushed up? Coupled with a baby in my stomach to boot only serves to prove that the symptoms will get worse with increasing pressure.  Extra weight around the abdomen? My problems started to get really bad when I was 28 weeks pregnant which is when the baby starts to gain weight rapidly, at this stage the baby sits up high in abdomen until the last few weeks when it drops into the pelvis ready for birth. Funny, I noticed the symptoms abate quite a bit at this stage of the pregnancy. I think the possible link here is H.pylori lies in wait, your immunity drops for whatever reason, environmental toxins, stress, dietary stress etc and it creeps in until the symptoms  hit you and then you develop chronic inflammation of the stomach lining and all the things that go with it.  Antibiotics were only a temporary fix for me (by the way, I haven't been diagnosed with H.pylori but I believe I have it and will work on this principle for the time being). I will now try virgin coconut oil and see what happens and I will keep all you comrades in the know about the developments. Cheers to All my comrades in Palps!  Michelle (from Australia).

[jover]

i feel that you all on the right path, i have the same problems.  I would liked to know patients that has had there hiatal hernia surgiclly corrected if there symptoms have cleared up.  I feel if this problem is corrected mechanicly then we will not have to depend on drug therapy to mask the symptoms.  Also I here of a new magnic band device that is place around the esophagus to help augment the LES to control acid reflux. maybe with this coupled with hiatal hernia repair will finally fix our problem.