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I gave a BJ to unknown guy about 8 weeks ago, and when I woke up I started to freak out.  He also went down on me for about 10-15mins, possible fingering as well.
I went to my clinic and got a STD panel which was clean 7 days after exposure, this also included HIV blood work - NEG.  I cant sleep and keep thinking about this,  so I got a DNA PCR test by LABCORB at 15 days which was NEG.  I showed up at his work and we went to get test together, rapid finger pirck at 7 weeks which was NEG for both of us.
I am scared and cannot concentrate at work, someone please help me.  I have a 8 week scheduled test on Monday.
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No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228

AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men

Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117

Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;

Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.



There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD

"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD

"I am sure you can find lots of people who belive that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK
"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK

in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA

"The observation on thousand and thousand of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort)." DR HOOK
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Can you level with me Tesk on my situation or Nock/Lizzie?  With my testing and exposure  why shouldn't I fear?
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Because you never had a risk.
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With my tests it's almost impossible too right?
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Impossible because you never had a risk.
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I am just saying ok there is no risk but my science behind all these tests with pcr and antibody tests?
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YOU HAD NO RISK - Of course your tests are NEG. - It takes a risk to become infected
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But my tests at this 8 weeks are good evidence?
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Please
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Your 8 week test is 100% conclusive
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Ok taking test on Tuesday that will be 8 week mark.
When do most test positive?
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You won't you didn't have a risk.
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I am just saying most test positive by this point?
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Had you had a risk you can obtain a conclusive test result 3 months post exposure.
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But the majority test positive by 8 weeks?
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You did not have a risk!!! IF you had a risk, the majority of infected people will test positive by 4 weeks. Calm down! You're fine! You did not place yourself at risk and it's time to move on from this.
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I think I will feel better after the 8 week test on Tuesday. Since the Dr in this forum-say that is virtually 100%, right?
But it makes me feel a lot better hearing what you said.  
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8 week test this AM via finger prick (Clearview) was NEG.  
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WE ARE GOOD THAN?
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excellent!!

you are perfect peace of mind now!!!

I did my 8th week test yesterday,, I´m waiting results,,, f*** waiting hours
wish me your best pls :)
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teak/lizzie/?
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Reread the replies you have been given.
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That I didnt have a risk to begin with but that my 8 week test and with my PCR test it is definitive I am not infected.

That sum is up?
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You didn't have a risk of contracting HIV and you didn't need any tests. Why would you test for something you didn't have a risk of getting and expect a positive test result?
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