Aa
Cant handle this all over again..feeling really low
I cant believe I have gotten myself into this situation again. I had a scare in the past but all was ok...thk god.
I have seriously slipped up this time and have been taken completely by surprise even though I thought I was being carefull. I visited a brothel with friends and recieved an unprotected bj followed by protected sex (2 condoms) from a prostitute.
I had absolutely no concerns over the bj because I read a risk chart before the event which didnt list HIV (or any other non-treatable disease)as a risk when getting a bj. (San Fran. health dept. / also other sites have stated clearly there is no risk at all for the insertive partner)
BUT to my horror..the CDC site says there are documented cases! Then I revisited Medhelp site and saw DR HHH quoting a 1 in 20000 risk! I thought he used to say no risk?
This risk is even higher than my previous scare...
I am so dissapointed in myself right now and I am having really unhealthy thoughts. I cant live through this anguish again, I just cant.
Please tell me my eyes are decieving me...please.
I have seriously slipped up this time and have been taken completely by surprise even though I thought I was being carefull. I visited a brothel with friends and recieved an unprotected bj followed by protected sex (2 condoms) from a prostitute.
I had absolutely no concerns over the bj because I read a risk chart before the event which didnt list HIV (or any other non-treatable disease)as a risk when getting a bj. (San Fran. health dept. / also other sites have stated clearly there is no risk at all for the insertive partner)
BUT to my horror..the CDC site says there are documented cases! Then I revisited Medhelp site and saw DR HHH quoting a 1 in 20000 risk! I thought he used to say no risk?
This risk is even higher than my previous scare...
I am so dissapointed in myself right now and I am having really unhealthy thoughts. I cant live through this anguish again, I just cant.
Please tell me my eyes are decieving me...please.
hah. he's come to the relationship forum seeking pity. he wasn't too keen on what he got instead.
If you are in fact "iknowihaveit" and "BadDay1972" and any other forum names you may have used to sneak back on here after being banned...has it occurred to you that maybe you don't necessarily have a fear of HIV, but are suffering MAJOR guilt from continually cheating on your girlfriend? I think you belong in the relationship forum...not here. Nobody here can answer your questions any more thoroughly than they already have anyway.
I'm assuming they didn't break, or he'd be in WAY worse shape. Yes, 2 condoms have a better chance of breaking, but since they didn't...he had his penis pretty dang well wrapped, I'd say.
Oh, I thought of another one. Killer bees.
Oh, I thought of another one. Killer bees.
Global warming is a scientific 'theory' not a scientific 'law'. Just like evolution is a scientific 'theory' :)
All the other stuff is good to worry about:)
All the other stuff is good to worry about:)
*crosses off "global warming" from list*
Ok, I think I'll add in E. Coli poisoning. And Carbon Monoxide Poisoning. Oh, Traffic Accidents.
Ok, I think I'll add in E. Coli poisoning. And Carbon Monoxide Poisoning. Oh, Traffic Accidents.
No offence guys, but this isnt helping. The two condoms and threats of thermonuclear war (see I can do it too) are irrelavant to my query which was regarding insertive oral sex.
But I do admire a sense of humor!
But I do admire a sense of humor!
*adds thermonuclear war to list*
Ok. I'm sufficiently depressed now.
Bad, how do you think HIV got through your impenetrable condom fortress?
Ok. I'm sufficiently depressed now.
Bad, how do you think HIV got through your impenetrable condom fortress?
Just saw you were worried about the oral, not the condom issue.
I think its not realistic to worry about that. I won't even put it on my Worry List.
I think its not realistic to worry about that. I won't even put it on my Worry List.
I thought you weren't supposed to use 2 condoms. Supposedly they have a better chance of breaking? Due to friction between them? Am I wrong?
Ok, I'll stop now. You may resume obsessing while others tell you not to worry. I have to go take the dogs out. They're restless.
Good day, all.
Good day, all.
Receiving a bj isn't a risk, unless there are some strange circumstances going on (i.e. she just had oral surgery, a few minutes ago, and you just had a bizarre gardening accident where there is a gaping wound on your penis)
This is *exactly* what I was talking about earlier.
The risk from receiving a blowjob is still pretty much hypothetical. The 1 in 20,000 risk is just extrapolated from the rest of the data--they didn't even have data on this to go by. Now, it's up to you whether you want to spin out of control based on this virtually no-risk encounter, but as peek pointed out, you're better off worrying about any of the other million bad things that are likely to happen to you. I forget, did she mention cancer? 'Cause you have a ONE in THREE chance of developing cancer at some point in your life.
Did you ever get meds and therapy?
The risk from receiving a blowjob is still pretty much hypothetical. The 1 in 20,000 risk is just extrapolated from the rest of the data--they didn't even have data on this to go by. Now, it's up to you whether you want to spin out of control based on this virtually no-risk encounter, but as peek pointed out, you're better off worrying about any of the other million bad things that are likely to happen to you. I forget, did she mention cancer? 'Cause you have a ONE in THREE chance of developing cancer at some point in your life.
Did you ever get meds and therapy?
Oh my god, my car IS making a noise. Like a combination squeaking/grinding. Someone said it might be a wheel bearing. Is that bad? I don't have time to get it fixed, so hopefully the wheel will fall off somewhere close to the shop.
The wheel never falls off near the shop. It's the Law of the Universe.
I did put cancer on my list, but as I've already had it, I could cross it off now. But that would be bad Karma.
I did put cancer on my list, but as I've already had it, I could cross it off now. But that would be bad Karma.
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Badday1972[:p],
Giving oral sex can't be a risk, it's not the right mechanism of HIV transmission.
use your own logic,
a.Saliva has proteins which eliminates the HI virus
b.For any risk to be present, you needed to have a FRESH GAPPING wound on your penis and your partner bleed to profusely bleed from his mouth.
c.The Doc's response that you read was a theoretic risk and wasn't for the oral receiver not the oral giver
d. There's not even one documented incidence of an individual acquiring the virus by GIVING ORAL.
I hope this helps and you don't create BADDAY series II.
Move on buddy :)
Mike
Giving oral sex can't be a risk, it's not the right mechanism of HIV transmission.
use your own logic,
a.Saliva has proteins which eliminates the HI virus
b.For any risk to be present, you needed to have a FRESH GAPPING wound on your penis and your partner bleed to profusely bleed from his mouth.
c.The Doc's response that you read was a theoretic risk and wasn't for the oral receiver not the oral giver
d. There's not even one documented incidence of an individual acquiring the virus by GIVING ORAL.
I hope this helps and you don't create BADDAY series II.
Move on buddy :)
Mike
COMMUNITY LEADER
Re-posting the c & d , eliminating the errors
b.For any risk to be present, you needed to have a FRESH GAPPING wound on your penis and your partner needed to profusely bleed from her mouth.
c.The Doc's response that you read was a theoretic risk and was for the oral receiver not the oral giver
b.For any risk to be present, you needed to have a FRESH GAPPING wound on your penis and your partner needed to profusely bleed from her mouth.
c.The Doc's response that you read was a theoretic risk and was for the oral receiver not the oral giver
Worry about other things: (note: in no particular order of importance)
The war in Iraq
Violence in the Middle East
Global warming
Poverty
Famine
Pollution
Illiteracy
The sucky housing market
Gas prices
Hurricaine season approaching
Terrorism in general
Overpopulation of humans
Overpopulation of dogs and cats
Your job
Tsunamis
Sinkholes
Termites eating your house
Money problems
That Noise your Car is Making
Poor, Poor Brittany Spears--Her Head Must Itch Terribly
Cancer
Baby Seal Clubbing
I'm sure there's a ton more, but I haven't had my coffee yet. This is all that came immediately to mind. There are so many things you could be worry about, yet you choose to worry about probably the least likely to affect you.
Worry about life, Bad_Day. Jeez.
The war in Iraq
Violence in the Middle East
Global warming
Poverty
Famine
Pollution
Illiteracy
The sucky housing market
Gas prices
Hurricaine season approaching
Terrorism in general
Overpopulation of humans
Overpopulation of dogs and cats
Your job
Tsunamis
Sinkholes
Termites eating your house
Money problems
That Noise your Car is Making
Poor, Poor Brittany Spears--Her Head Must Itch Terribly
Cancer
Baby Seal Clubbing
I'm sure there's a ton more, but I haven't had my coffee yet. This is all that came immediately to mind. There are so many things you could be worry about, yet you choose to worry about probably the least likely to affect you.
Worry about life, Bad_Day. Jeez.
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