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Oral Sex and HIV between 2 Woman
I thought oral sex was suppose to be 'safe sex'? If not then why are we not being informed to use a condom for that practice too?
About 3 months ago I had unprotected oral sex with a co worker of mine.
There was no blood involved, no visable sores and I'm really just so scared now that I might have contracted HIV through this exposure. Is it possible? And if so, how?
Thank you
Kelly
About 3 months ago I had unprotected oral sex with a co worker of mine.
There was no blood involved, no visable sores and I'm really just so scared now that I might have contracted HIV through this exposure. Is it possible? And if so, how?
Thank you
Kelly
Hehe......no, I to am very paranoid, perhaps borderline OCD!
Yeah, 3 weeks is a long time and a blood test would have been done ages ago....you've made 3 weeks, I'm sure you can make it a few more days!
I'm in JHB.
I think deep down I know I'll be ok, but I don't want to give myself a false sense of security either. I also want to go work in the Uk for a bit and don't want to leave without knowing I'm 100% ok!
Yeah, 3 weeks is a long time and a blood test would have been done ages ago....you've made 3 weeks, I'm sure you can make it a few more days!
I'm in JHB.
I think deep down I know I'll be ok, but I don't want to give myself a false sense of security either. I also want to go work in the Uk for a bit and don't want to leave without knowing I'm 100% ok!
gaza2010, thank you for the information and encouragement.
I think I'm just going to sit it out and wait for the insurance company to come back to me - afterall, they would contact me if there was something wrong and would decline my insurance too.
I know it's tough, but I guess I just have to hang in there. It's been 3 weeks now, so surely they would have let me know by now if there was a problem.
Where in South Africa are you from? I think they are right - you have nothing to worry about either.
It's strange though how our emotions run wild with us and especially reading some of these posts - boy, did I think I was the only paranoid one here :)
I think I'm just going to sit it out and wait for the insurance company to come back to me - afterall, they would contact me if there was something wrong and would decline my insurance too.
I know it's tough, but I guess I just have to hang in there. It's been 3 weeks now, so surely they would have let me know by now if there was a problem.
Where in South Africa are you from? I think they are right - you have nothing to worry about either.
It's strange though how our emotions run wild with us and especially reading some of these posts - boy, did I think I was the only paranoid one here :)
Well, what I got up to is considered as "safe" and I walked away from it ok, but then my mind started ticking. Long story short, I received unprotected oral sex as well as received a hand job, but before all this, the dude I was with masturbated and after rinsed his hand from semen. My concern is 1) When he rinsed his hand, semen mixed in the water ran into my eyes, moth etc (we were in a shower) and 2) What if his hand was not 100% rinsed off of his semen when he touched my penis!
The doc here said risk is "virtually non-existant", the Gay/Lesbian expert at Health 24 said "I need to relax" and the Health 24 Sexologist said "no, no, no risk - and I have AFRaids, not aids", BUT I still can't let things go!
I tested at 6 weeks and 10.5 - both neg. and next Monday I'll test again.
There is a New Start clinic in DBN. The one here in JHB is great - all is confidential, no names policy if you wish. RESULTS IN 20 MINUTES! And you can specify if you want an
Commercial City, 16th Floor
40 Commercial Road,
Durban
www.newstart.co.za
You will probably get a call saying declined and only if you enquire will they give the exact reason - not that you have to worry.
I prefer the VCT route, just because their counseling is great - before the test they ***** your exact risk and put you at ease for the test. The test can take anywhere from 10 to 15 minutes to form, and while you wait they will chat with you etc - and they do 2 differnt tests for elimination purposes!
The doc here said risk is "virtually non-existant", the Gay/Lesbian expert at Health 24 said "I need to relax" and the Health 24 Sexologist said "no, no, no risk - and I have AFRaids, not aids", BUT I still can't let things go!
I tested at 6 weeks and 10.5 - both neg. and next Monday I'll test again.
There is a New Start clinic in DBN. The one here in JHB is great - all is confidential, no names policy if you wish. RESULTS IN 20 MINUTES! And you can specify if you want an
Commercial City, 16th Floor
40 Commercial Road,
Durban
www.newstart.co.za
You will probably get a call saying declined and only if you enquire will they give the exact reason - not that you have to worry.
I prefer the VCT route, just because their counseling is great - before the test they ***** your exact risk and put you at ease for the test. The test can take anywhere from 10 to 15 minutes to form, and while you wait they will chat with you etc - and they do 2 differnt tests for elimination purposes!
Thank you both for all the information and posts - it really does ease my mind quite drastically.
I suppose everyone here says that HIV isn't transmitted via oral sex, but you keep wondering in the back of your mind if it couldn't be done. My insurance company hasn't come back to me as yet and I've heard nothing about being denied insurance, so I guess that is good news. I had the test done almost 3 weeks ago, so I'm guessing that there should be a result by now and they'd let me know if there was a problem. Really strange though, as what do they call you and say there's a problem - then you know for a fact that it could only be for the HIV test and you know then that you're positive, so I wouldn't need counciling. I jump everytime the phone rings and want to hide under my desk.
Gaza2010 .... what part are you from in South Africa and what was your exposure? I live on the outskirts of Durban.
HansrowSenoj, I'm sure you have nothing to worry about - you've already had one test done and it's negative, so I'm sure you're going to be just fine.
Prayers are with you both and please say a little one for me that I hear nothing!
I suppose everyone here says that HIV isn't transmitted via oral sex, but you keep wondering in the back of your mind if it couldn't be done. My insurance company hasn't come back to me as yet and I've heard nothing about being denied insurance, so I guess that is good news. I had the test done almost 3 weeks ago, so I'm guessing that there should be a result by now and they'd let me know if there was a problem. Really strange though, as what do they call you and say there's a problem - then you know for a fact that it could only be for the HIV test and you know then that you're positive, so I wouldn't need counciling. I jump everytime the phone rings and want to hide under my desk.
Gaza2010 .... what part are you from in South Africa and what was your exposure? I live on the outskirts of Durban.
HansrowSenoj, I'm sure you have nothing to worry about - you've already had one test done and it's negative, so I'm sure you're going to be just fine.
Prayers are with you both and please say a little one for me that I hear nothing!
Hi there,
I've spoken to a friend of mine who is in the insurance industry and he said that if a blood test comes back possitive for HIV, they should let you know or if not, they will inform you that your application was denied.
Did you insurance get approved? If so, you have nothing to worry about, but I do agree with the others that you should go out and have a rapid test. I'm also in South Africa and have had many! You will have results in 20 minutes - and there is pre-counseling which I find very helpful! Sure you must have heard of VCT? Voluntary Testing & Counseling?? Where in SA are you? Check out http://www.healthinsite.net/health/HealthProfile.dll/eCareGeneral?wid=12&sh=10&tp=1 for a list of VCT sites. There is generally a clinic in every Public University where these tests are done - and they are free, however, private clinics charge up to R25 a test and around R102 for an ELISA test - but then you can wait up to 3 days for a result depending how close you are to a lab.
I too am very confused as to why oral sex poses no risk? But from what I can gather:
1. The receiver is only exposed to saliva - so therefore same risk category as wet kissing - virtually none
2. The giver only faces a "THEORETICAL" risk i.e. the virus is transmitted when an infected fluid (semen, vaginal excretion & blood) enters the blood stream of another person. However, in reality, reports (and from what I read there are very, very few) of those who claim they were infected solely via oral sex are considered inaccurate as it is very likely that other, more riskier activities are not reported at the time. I believe the infection rate of oral sex is 0.01 in every 10 000 (or is this 0.1 1000?) - either way, it is still zero............
Perhaps someone can back me up........
Look I too engaged in what others call very low risk/no risk activities but there is still nothing as reasurring like a negative test result formed before your eyes! I tested negative at 6 weeks & 10.5 weeks and my 12 week/84 day mark is next Monday. I'll keep you in my thoughts although I'm really sure are fine.....but believe me, get the test..........
I've spoken to a friend of mine who is in the insurance industry and he said that if a blood test comes back possitive for HIV, they should let you know or if not, they will inform you that your application was denied.
Did you insurance get approved? If so, you have nothing to worry about, but I do agree with the others that you should go out and have a rapid test. I'm also in South Africa and have had many! You will have results in 20 minutes - and there is pre-counseling which I find very helpful! Sure you must have heard of VCT? Voluntary Testing & Counseling?? Where in SA are you? Check out http://www.healthinsite.net/health/HealthProfile.dll/eCareGeneral?wid=12&sh=10&tp=1 for a list of VCT sites. There is generally a clinic in every Public University where these tests are done - and they are free, however, private clinics charge up to R25 a test and around R102 for an ELISA test - but then you can wait up to 3 days for a result depending how close you are to a lab.
I too am very confused as to why oral sex poses no risk? But from what I can gather:
1. The receiver is only exposed to saliva - so therefore same risk category as wet kissing - virtually none
2. The giver only faces a "THEORETICAL" risk i.e. the virus is transmitted when an infected fluid (semen, vaginal excretion & blood) enters the blood stream of another person. However, in reality, reports (and from what I read there are very, very few) of those who claim they were infected solely via oral sex are considered inaccurate as it is very likely that other, more riskier activities are not reported at the time. I believe the infection rate of oral sex is 0.01 in every 10 000 (or is this 0.1 1000?) - either way, it is still zero............
Perhaps someone can back me up........
Look I too engaged in what others call very low risk/no risk activities but there is still nothing as reasurring like a negative test result formed before your eyes! I tested negative at 6 weeks & 10.5 weeks and my 12 week/84 day mark is next Monday. I'll keep you in my thoughts although I'm really sure are fine.....but believe me, get the test..........
Hi Kelly, how are you? Have you taken a test besides the insurance test? I think that since they haven't called thats a good sign, but because they aren't calling and probably won't call if you are negtive, to alieve some of your worry you should either call them or try taking a test on your own. I know that you say you live far out, but it should be possible to find somewhere to take a test.
I think that its been long enough so I'm sure all is fine with your test at the insurance agency. I'd just try to take the other one to confirm for yourself the results. I'm waiting to take my second test. I still have at least three weeks to go, but I feel that due to my exposure another test is warranted. After that I will be done with this. Waiting on the insurance company isn't the best way to go since they probably won't get back to you. If I had waited on mine I'd still be waiting.
Anyway, I'm still praying for you. You'll get through it unscaved I'm sure.... But the test, like I said, is a good idea if you can get to take it on your own.
I think that its been long enough so I'm sure all is fine with your test at the insurance agency. I'd just try to take the other one to confirm for yourself the results. I'm waiting to take my second test. I still have at least three weeks to go, but I feel that due to my exposure another test is warranted. After that I will be done with this. Waiting on the insurance company isn't the best way to go since they probably won't get back to you. If I had waited on mine I'd still be waiting.
Anyway, I'm still praying for you. You'll get through it unscaved I'm sure.... But the test, like I said, is a good idea if you can get to take it on your own.
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