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I read here on the fourum that you work with hiv so i wanted to ask your opinion regarding my exposure RJ. Please tell me what you have noticed in regards to exposure/window period envolving possible co-infections-hep c in paticular if you could i'd greatly appreciate this.
Exposure-needle stick (by iv drug user-likley positive w/hiv & hep-c,ect)
-Tested hiv neg @ 30 day and again neg @ 12 weeks.
Would you consider my test to be conclusive based on your experience or would think my status likley to change if i've experienced what i think may have been ARS?
Exposure-needle stick (by iv drug user-likley positive w/hiv & hep-c,ect)
-Tested hiv neg @ 30 day and again neg @ 12 weeks.
Would you consider my test to be conclusive based on your experience or would think my status likley to change if i've experienced what i think may have been ARS?
will you tell me again...how you know that she was an iv drug user (most likely infected with hiv/hepc,etc.)?
When she was arrested the police found three syringes in her posession. When she was interviewed the detective told me (off the record) that she had a rapp sheet with many arrests for drug posession / posession of needle works / prostitution / asault & battery / and many other charges. The detective tried to tell me that she did'nt think she was positive because when she was asked if she and did not request meds when she was jailed. I was told that prisoners are worthy of being assigned to the med ward they always choose this option because they are afforded more convieniences and slightly better living conditions. I'm skeptical of the idea of this...with that type of background it's very unlikley she's not a carrier of hiv / hep Liz, the odds are against me. I was under the impression that all arrestees are screened once in costudy but i was told otherwise (i think she-the detective / was maybe affraid she had already said too much @ that point and decided to stop short of telling me).
it seems that if a homeless person stuck you with a needle, and arrested, she would have been tested. why did this not happen?
You would think so but it's not the case at all, it's all based on witnesses and some people observed her because of her prior wierd behavior during the trip (she kept moving around and making odd gestures i was told). I thought they would take the syringe and test them to see which one i was stuck with, i thought they would force her to submit to a screening for tb / hep & hiv, ect, but these things were not done. I spoke with the policeman regarding these possibilities and they said that (in their words) "unfortunatley... she has rights to" They told me of a few situation were officers were stuck because of non-disclosure after asking them if they had "sharps" in there posession before a pat down or whatever and were subsequently stuck, fortunatley they were fine. They said for the most part it takes repeated occurences to come up positive but it is still possibility.
I don't even know if she stuck herself before sticking me (worst case) or if she had blood in the needle that was injected into me -or-both. You think you would feel such a thind would'nt you? But for some reason i did'nt realise right away. That's what kills me, there was no feeling of being stuck, but i was deff stuck because i saw the poke mark after lifting my pant leg up. there was no blood on the outside of my pant which i a good sign that MAYBE she did'nt stick herself right before she stuck me, but if she recently used the works and there was blood inside well..She expained herself as a good semaritan who was simply going around picking up discarded syringes so children would'nt find them and play with them, go figure..so maybe she stuck me with one of her own -or- she stuck me with one she found disgaurded, i'm screwed either way...
I don't even know if she stuck herself before sticking me (worst case) or if she had blood in the needle that was injected into me -or-both. You think you would feel such a thind would'nt you? But for some reason i did'nt realise right away. That's what kills me, there was no feeling of being stuck, but i was deff stuck because i saw the poke mark after lifting my pant leg up. there was no blood on the outside of my pant which i a good sign that MAYBE she did'nt stick herself right before she stuck me, but if she recently used the works and there was blood inside well..She expained herself as a good semaritan who was simply going around picking up discarded syringes so children would'nt find them and play with them, go figure..so maybe she stuck me with one of her own -or- she stuck me with one she found disgaurded, i'm screwed either way...
You would have known if you would have been stuck with a needle. Go get yourself some professional help.
Thanks for that, that really helps and i hope your enjoying yourself. This is the second worst part of what happened to me, the fact that it sound so rediculous. I can't even believe it, i still can't get over it and people like you and mintjuleps just make things all the worse. I have no reason to lie and would rather be enjoying my life right now. I use to be a care free individual and now i feel like there is nothing to live for if my test changes to positive in Feb all my hard work will be for nothing. I've NEVER been drunk or even sampled alchohol, drugs. I practice yoga / pilates / and ride my 10 speed instead of driving a car. My cholesterol was 163 @ my last physical, i'm vegan/ vegetarian and i'm not permiscuous either. When i have sex, it's always protected. But these are not my concernes anymore, this is..out of anyone who tested outside of three months were needle sticks-pep or no pep, so the concern is 100% valid in this case..there is no real information only spectulation about delayed seroconversion when a person may have been serepticiously co-infected. I have to worry aout tb-hep-syphillis and of course hiv for half a year and possibly the rest of my days if i test (+)...
you are 100% wrong on this one because it never happened to you, that's what anyone would think but it's not true man. The jeans i was wearing were the thick kind (Deisel) so the needle may not have gone in as far as it would have otherwise from looking. Plus you have the fact that i was dosing and not fully aware of things right away. Ever get bit by a spider? I have, and it's more like something that you notice after it hapens not during.. really.
Of all people don't try to tell an HIV positive person anything about getting stuck with needles. It happens every three months without fail. You are letting your mind go spastic and the only one that it is causing damage to is you and those around you that have to listen to you. Seek professional mental help. You are beyond the help that any online forum can help you with.
6 months / negative and i'll let it go. That's what they recommend for high risk exposures.
Getting poked with a needle doesn't make it a high risk. It's only high risk when you have been poked by a recently use needle by a known HIV positive person that does IV drugs, of which you don't know and you don't know if the needle was even used for IV drugs. If you were even stuck by a needle.
wow...you told me (and maybe others) something that i didnt know. YOU ARE NOT EVEN POSITIVE THAT YOU WERE STUCK BY A NEEDLE. you didnt feel anything...there was no blood. how do you know the "little mark" you saw was made from a needle? if you didnt feel it, then how did you know where to look? this is news to me...unbelievable.
yeah bro i agree with Lizzie Lou, if you didnt feel the pain of the needle poke then where did you know where to look? also, No one has ever been identified as being positive from a needle poke OUTSIDE of a healthcare setting. Regardless of what you might think, a needle poke is not HIgh risk. it is in fact Low risk and your test prooves it. A needle poke risk is calculated at about 0.03% risk. Thats less than a 1% chance of becoming infected with HIV from a needle poke and that leaves a little more than 99% chance that you will be fine, Thus the test results from your 12 weeks test. But i have to ask you, How did this whole situation occur. I thought that i read somewhere that you were like half asleep and some homeless person just came up to you and stabbed you or something or what happened. Please explain i am curious to know.
Are you kidding man? Did you read this persons background? How would i know if she did'nt just shoot up before she got on the train man? Teak she could have pricked herself before sticking me as well, you don't know...A homeless, Hiv negative iv drug user? Okay, that's the highest risk out there without a doubt besides unprotected anal sex with a hiv (+) person..and i do know that i was stuck, that's a fact , the area i was infected the next day as i've said I had to go to the hospital to get treatment for it. I was given antibiotics and a tetanus shot by the DR. I wish i had been given pep @ this time. Teak in your own words "i don't even know how i got hiv, wether it was occupational or through sex." How can you then just dismiss my risk which is very real.
So you fell asleep on a train and some homeless person got on and stabbed you in the leg. Wow, that really sucks. But on the bright side your tests are conclusive man. Go out and celebrate the fact that you already tested negative at 12 weeks. Here in Arizona where i live they go by 8 weeks as beiung conlusive for all risk. I didnt believe it either when i first heard it and i dont come on this site and preach it either but it was told to me by a testing counselor. regardless of that, you are negative and you should feel good about it. its time to move on and forget about that horrible day. Trust me.
I told you i was dosing, when i woke she was bent over in the seat next to me, i thought she was tying up her shoe or something. Some passengers told me that she was odd moving around and nodding off a lot. This guy said people noticed her appearance -disheveled, ect, and moved to the outside seats to avoid her sitting next to them, my seat was open so she sat next to me, nodding off bent over. The stick was in my lower shin near the lower part almost down by my foot.I woke up and she sat upright shortly afterwards, she looked @ me some and said you look like "you take good care of yourself"I was a bit puzzled by that but still did'nt think anything right away. I felt a little wetness, raised my left pant leg up and i did notice a tiny blood bubble formed that looked fresh. She handed me several alchohol swab packets right away, just like that when she saw me looking at, it i opened it and used it to wipe away the bubble and clean off the area around it. I did'nt automatically think i had been stuck because i had been riding my bike and get scrapped up a lot. It was a passenger who said that she was acting a lilttle odd and asked me what happened. He's the one who said maybe she stuck you with something, some other people that were present listening said the same thing man...i was the one who was skeptical because i did'nt really think that was were it was from. I got scared and that's when i told the operator about it he radioed until the police that work within the train station, they stopped and questioned her, asked her about the stick, she denied it happened but agreed to let them search her, she admitted she had needles on her person and they found she had three syringes on her person. They took her into custody for further questioning and charged her with posession, agrivated assault, ect..tell it to them, why would they arrest her?. They said it looked like a needle stick and they know a tract mark when they see one.
She a homeless and uses iv drug man, she got an 80% chance or better of being hiv +, probably more like a 95% chance if you through in that she's been arrested for prostitution.
What if the syringe was full of her blood man? Plus the blood on the outside of the needle from shooting up all day? 0.03%!? There was a decernable marker, the doctor at the emergency ward was also said the same thing, she should have given me pep.
I read that, plus she was very thin, the woman looked like death warmed over, grey skin with more wrinkles than a raisin man, i'm screwed. Just remember that what i said-most people who test outside the guidlines were needle sticks, pep or know pep. I may be loosing it Chris but that does not mean that hiv may not be in my future, plus that's also a symptom-mental illness.
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