Wish me luck...

[tacotrd06]

At 1 today, I'm going in for my second HIV Oraquick Oral test....The first was done on Oct 22nd, 3 years post CSW exposure (protected) and 6 years post unprotected with first girlfriend...The first test I had was negative...let's hope this one is too...Any suggestions for proper testing? I woke up the morning and didn't wash my mouth or brush my teeth last night, I'm hoping to have a good amount of "accumulated" mucous on my gums...Let's hope for a negative result!

[NoMoreScared]

YES, I also found this out.

http://www.wihiv.wisc.edu/trainingsystem/libraryDownload.asp?docid=193

On that document, just look on page number 13 or find for "rinse" and you will see that we both are safe.

Sorry, if u misunderstood my comments before. I know how hard it can be before the testing phase. Regardless, just don't eat or drink anything just five minutes prior for OraQuick Advance and test will be accurance.

[tacotrd06]

NoMoreScared, go to orasure's website, click on the Oraquick Adv. pic in the left hand side. Read the customer letter and instructions. I promise you'll feel A LOT better. Or just go here, http://www.orasure.com/products/default.asp?sec=2&subx=2&cid=2&prd=138 and under customer info, click on customer letter.

[tacotrd06]

NoMoreScared, go to orasure's website, click on the Oraquick Adv. pic in the left hand side. Read the customer letter and instructions. I promise you'll feel A LOT better.

[tacotrd06]

NoMoreScared, go to orasure's website, click on the Oraquick Adv. pic in the left hand side. Read the customer letter and instructions. I promise you'll feel A LOT better.

[tacotrd06]

Negative or not, either way, I'm going to be praying and pulling for a cure. Just because I'm negative (hopefully) doesn't mean you the + folks are anything less important to me. It is those who are + that have shown me the most compassion and helped me the most get through this troubling time. To be forgotten? I think not. Money's on the way fellas (and gals) and whatever helps end this pandemic setback is what I'll be putting most effort on. To hope for a negative conclusive result is one thing, but to really put this behind us, we need to do what we can (especially the fortunate ones) to pay back the effort those in the + community have given us.

[NoMoreScared]

I called OraQuick or OraSure's hotline and asked about our ongoing disucssion. She told me she don't know anything and asked me to direct the question to local provider. I am saying that's messed up dude. I did brush my teeth in the morning of the test. I am now scared whether that would have made any difference or not.

[tacotrd06]

Dr.Bob knows his stuff. He's one cool dude. I would go down there to get testing but I can't make the trip, plus I've talked to him over the phone regarding testing. He assured me that the first negative is all I need, he said the second is not necessarily meaning less but putting the mind games to rest. Either way, they do annon. testing and all the fun stuff, but as he said, "80 Miles or not, oraquick is the same everywhere, go get your negative and just be thankful".

[alienshadow]

what

[NoMoreScared]

hey, I called OraSure number 1-800-672-7873 and their dum rep don't know anything about the food or water rule. She told me to ask my provider. What the hell? That's messed up.

[tacotrd06]

Post negative test anxiety comes from questioning the validity of the test and self-doubt. I mean, 1) if you're truly negative, why not take a second test? 2) Ask your questions, get it over with. 3) DON'T LEAVE UNTIL YOU ARE REASSURED OF YOUR SAFETY. 4) When you walk out, take a deep breath and say "It's over" and just go dumb.

[tacotrd06]

The difference between the last test, and this one is, I have a list of questions I would like to get out of the way with the provider - even seeing for myself the test strip. So, I'm way more prepared this time around. *thumbs up*

[tacotrd06]

Chris, honest, if I could just get it over with for the second time with a non-reactive result - My worries will be over. I promise. I live 80 miles from Dr.Bob's med center (Robert Frascino Medical Group in Los Altos, CA). I'm going to drive down there and personally donate, then I'm going to start literally woo-hoo-ing. I swear, from here on out, I will always donate towards HIV/AIDS foundations. I've been fortunate enough to have many things in life, being HIV negative will top it all. In order to repay my debt, I'll do whatever I can so maybe one day, we'll see Teak woohooing louder (as Dr.Bob says) and wilder than a Banshee in heat.

[NoMoreScared]

no worries. Still I don't think that you don't need to wash ur mouth or brush teeth prior. Anyways, goodluck with ur test and ask the provider about ur arguing.

[tacotrd06]

Basically, with the orasure, you hold the pad between your cheek and gums for 2 minutes, then it's put in the vial...With the oraquick, you rub the top and bottom front gums once, avoid other parts of the mouth, and then it is to be placed in the vial within 0 ~ 10 minutes. After either are in the vial, you await the results from anywhere in the 20 ~ 40 minute time period. Either way, IMO, I'd rather take the orasure. Think about it, two minutes versus 15 seconds. I mean, I don't necessarily doubt the test, especially when you look at orasure's (the mfg. of oraquick - look at the customer letter) site regarding the oraquick adv. It shows 605 samples that were TRUE negatives, of that group, 605 were NON-REACTIVE. Of the known HIV-1 population sampled (767), 762 were reactive, according to the site and another third party site (i'll find it later), the 5 who were tested negative who were actually positive had very early detection and were administered antiviral medications very early which is why they have a low undetectable viral load.

[tacotrd06]

I think we have a misunderstanding because I'm talking about one test, and you're talking about another. If that's the case, I apologize and I really didn't mean to be so blunt on the situation. I'm a little stressed because I'm sitting here in the school clinic (there is wi-fi) awaiting my 1 o'clock appt. I don't know what to think, what to do, but only have 1 prior negative oraquick test on the line - it's all I got, and I'm hoping that Dr.Bob (from thebody.com) is right when he says "Your 3/6 year oraquick test is definitive, and conclusive, you don't need additional testing. Stop worrying and start WOO-HOOing". We'll see Dr.Bob....

[NoMoreScared]

My bad, if I misunderstood your question. I did take OraQuick Advance test where I swab the stick agaist my gums. I took at the local health clinic and they didn't tell me anything about not washing my mouth or drinking water, etc etc. Only reason I posted coz I saw that u didn't brush ur teeth since last night neither u have drink any water. I didn't do the same when I took mine OraQuick test, I didn't do OraSure though. It might be different. Anyways, what is the difference between these two? Also, did u order the kit or going to local health dept? Also what was ur exposure?

[tacotrd06]

1) I can read just fine.
2) There's a difference between their ORASURE test and ORAQUICK test for oral fluid specimens.
3) YOU'RE the one who said "don't drink water 20 minutes prior to testing" and "I read it on a website".
4) Any problems?

[tacotrd06]

No no no...."According to manufacturer itself says, that just don't drink water prior to 20 minutes." & "...they told me nothing about 20 min water rule. I just today read it on website."

I didn't question the validity of whether or not it was a good idea to rinse, eat, or whatever before your test. I'm just questioning this so called "20 minute" rule you found on some "website". My judgment and action is in accordance with the mfg.'s guideline. Do you really think I would want to do anything but follow the instructions? I don't care what everyone else does in this world, however I DO CARE when people post stuff like "According to the mfg....", hell for all I care, people could drink a bucket of **** before they test, that has nothing to do with what the mfg. suggests, it's personal choice - I understand that, I don't see the complications between understanding "Just at thought" and "The mfg. said, says, or states..."

[NoMoreScared]

Do any medications or mouth conditions affect the test?  
No. Oral conditions, disease, medications, and non-HIV related medical conditions will not affect the accuracy of the OraSure® HIV-1 test.  


http://www.orasure.com/products/prodsubfaq.asp?pid=133&sec=2&subsec=2

SITE IS LISTED ABOVE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ THE WEBSITE ADDRESS.

[NoMoreScared]

what is ur point? When I took test, I ate and drink 20 minutes prior. None of the healthcare provider told me anything about it. If this DAMN test requires you NOT to wash you DAMN mouth then it will says so or provider will inform you prior. I am not BABBLING here AMIGO. I am telling you the fact. If you are scared then call their hotline and ask them. Do you think that everyone in this world will NOT rinse their mouth or NOT eat anything on the day of the test?

[tacotrd06]

What website did you get this from?

[tacotrd06]

Look at the customer letter and test instructions...I'll tell you what I did find on customer letter though....

"As part of the oral fluid clinical studies, information was collected from the participants regarding concurrent diseases or medical conditions, oral pathologies, non-HIV viral infections, and other factors (e.g., use of tobacco products, mouthwash within 24 hours of testing, concomitant medications, dental fixtures, and food or drink immediately prior to testing). None of these disease states, medical conditions or other factors interfered with test sensitivity. In a separate study of 40 individuals, consumption of alcohol, brushing of teeth, use of mouthwash or smoking tobacco 5 minutes prior to testing, were shown to have NO effect on test sensitivity."

That was quoted from orasure's (the mfg. of oraquick) website from the customer letter. Before you go babbling on with "assumptions" read the minute details first amigo. If I wouldn't have read all the instructions on the site prior to posting on this website, I'd be in shambles right now. NO MORE ASSUMPTIONS PLEASE

[NoMoreScared]

I took mine oral test twice and none of that time they told me nothing about 20 min water rule. I just today read it on website. Also, when I took mine, I did eat and brush my teeth in the morning. Just from common sense, I can tell that if u won't brush ur teeth or wash ur mouth, what if the solution picks up some other batceria. Just a thought.

[NoMoreScared]

OraSure: The OraSure test is perfect for anyone who doesn't like blood. A swab is rubbed between the cheek and lower gum to collect an oral mucosal specimen, which is then sent out for testing. It's recommended that you not eat, drink, smoke, etc. 20 minutes before the test is administered. At the lab, an ELISA and if necessary, a Western Blot is performed on the sample. Results are typically given in 5-10 business days.

http://www.aac.org/site/PageServer?pagename=basics_home

Don't panic though, it's bunch of BS. Bottom line is that it will pick up regardless. It also says that swab against ur lower gums. When I took mine, I swabbed against my upper gums. It don't make a difference. Also, ask to provider. If there was 20 minutes water rule then they will tell u about that for sure.