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Some reassurance to a low risk oral exposure
Good Day All,
I will try to keep this brief and to the point. My exposure is as follows. Massage Parlour visit where I engaged in unprotected oral exchange with 2x female attendants in their 20/30’s. One of the ladies placed a condom on for sex but I did not want to. So, no sex outside the oral.
Symptoms are not a good way to determine infection is understood. But, I’ll let them fly anyhow. At day 33 developed aches in back, abs, etc, flowed by a fever that I have had now for 5 days. Advil helps to bring it down and relieve the aches. I haven’t had a fever today, but it has seems to climb later in the day into the evening, so hopefully it stays at bay. I would up in ER bc I saw blood in my urine. They took blood. All blood work came back normal and showed no infections. The dr mentioned that my WBC was a tad on the lower end but within range and probably due to a viral infection. I hadn’t even thought about HIV until she asked about sexual partners, and discharge, rashes etc…I thought it was odd. I understand my exposure was very low risk, so hadn’t been a thought. Have things changed with regard to oral sex or perhaps DOC was covering bases and conservative? I kind of questioned her on it and she retracted. When I left she said, no need to worry, you picked up A viral Infection, you will be fine. Anyway, just checking in to learn of anything new in the med world I should know about this type of exposure….I guess and symptoms
I will try to keep this brief and to the point. My exposure is as follows. Massage Parlour visit where I engaged in unprotected oral exchange with 2x female attendants in their 20/30’s. One of the ladies placed a condom on for sex but I did not want to. So, no sex outside the oral.
Symptoms are not a good way to determine infection is understood. But, I’ll let them fly anyhow. At day 33 developed aches in back, abs, etc, flowed by a fever that I have had now for 5 days. Advil helps to bring it down and relieve the aches. I haven’t had a fever today, but it has seems to climb later in the day into the evening, so hopefully it stays at bay. I would up in ER bc I saw blood in my urine. They took blood. All blood work came back normal and showed no infections. The dr mentioned that my WBC was a tad on the lower end but within range and probably due to a viral infection. I hadn’t even thought about HIV until she asked about sexual partners, and discharge, rashes etc…I thought it was odd. I understand my exposure was very low risk, so hadn’t been a thought. Have things changed with regard to oral sex or perhaps DOC was covering bases and conservative? I kind of questioned her on it and she retracted. When I left she said, no need to worry, you picked up A viral Infection, you will be fine. Anyway, just checking in to learn of anything new in the med world I should know about this type of exposure….I guess and symptoms
Your situation involves personal contact with an object in air (hand, body, fluids, mouth, etc. ). You will be happy to learn that you had no risk, because you can't get hiv from personal contact except unprotected penetrating vaginal or anal with a penis, neither of which you did and you didn't share hollow needles to inject with which is the only other way to acquire hiv - there are ONLY 3 ways to get hiv. Note that 2 of them require a penis and the third requires a hollow injecting shared needle - there are no OTHER ways to get hiv. Analysis of large numbers of infected people over the 40 years of hiv history has proven that people don't get hiv in the way you are worried is a risk.
Hiv is a fragile virus in air or saliva and is effectively instantly dead in either air or saliva so the WORST that could happen is dead virus rubbed you, and obviously anything which is dead cannot live again so you are good. Blood and cuts would not be relevant in your situation since the hiv has become effectively dead, so you don't have to worry about them to be sure that you are safe.
There is no reason for a person to test when they are safe. The advice took into consideration that the other person might be positive, so move on and enjoy life instead of thinking about this non-event. hiv prevention is straightforward since there are only 3 ways you can become infected, so next time you wonder if you had a risk, ask yourself this QUESTION. "Did I do any of the 3?" Then after you say "No, I didn't" you will know that it's time to move on back to your happy life.
No one got hiv from what you did during 40 years of hiv history and no one will get it in the next 40 years of your life either. You can do what you did any time and be safe from hiv.
The other person's status is irrelevant when you have no exposure to live virus.
Even if you had a risk your "symptoms" are not a diagnostic so no doctor here tries to diagnose from them. You shouldn't be wasting your time keeping a list of them, and making all those hiv assumptions either.
Hiv is a fragile virus in air or saliva and is effectively instantly dead in either air or saliva so the WORST that could happen is dead virus rubbed you, and obviously anything which is dead cannot live again so you are good. Blood and cuts would not be relevant in your situation since the hiv has become effectively dead, so you don't have to worry about them to be sure that you are safe.
There is no reason for a person to test when they are safe. The advice took into consideration that the other person might be positive, so move on and enjoy life instead of thinking about this non-event. hiv prevention is straightforward since there are only 3 ways you can become infected, so next time you wonder if you had a risk, ask yourself this QUESTION. "Did I do any of the 3?" Then after you say "No, I didn't" you will know that it's time to move on back to your happy life.
No one got hiv from what you did during 40 years of hiv history and no one will get it in the next 40 years of your life either. You can do what you did any time and be safe from hiv.
The other person's status is irrelevant when you have no exposure to live virus.
Even if you had a risk your "symptoms" are not a diagnostic so no doctor here tries to diagnose from them. You shouldn't be wasting your time keeping a list of them, and making all those hiv assumptions either.
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Thanks for the reassurance. Listing and analyzing symptoms certainly feed into whatever fears one may have. Like I said, I hadn’t placed it in my mind until the conversation about sexual exposures came up with the dr. Thinking now she may been alluding to other STDs and not HIV specific. Perhaps I assumed. Thanks
Apologies. One follow up. I haven’t had any other symptoms outside the fever and aches. I did get 2x cankers in my mouth 1 week or so before the aforementioned symptoms began. I do suffer from bleeding gums and less than ideal oral health.
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Since you didn't answer the QUESTION I'll do it for you. Answer> No there wasn't a penis in my anus and she didn't needle inject me during the oral, so I'm wasting my own time studying my body for a disease I don't have.
I wasn’t aware I was supposed to answer. Anything. I’ve seen that response in similar threads, I thought it was part of the point you were getting across. I understand my exposure was very low to lower than low, even with poor oral hygiene. Much appreciated.
It should be noted for clarity (which shouldn’t make any difference in the answers) when I stated oral exchange, i was referring to reciprocating on both of them. It is why I brought up the poor oral hygiene. Thanks again.
The advice clearly stated to ask YOURSELF the QUESTION, not to ignore it and ask me more questions!
You should reread the advice because you haven't understood ANY of it. In fact you just made this part up because there is nothing in the advice that agrees with your comment > " ...my exposure was very low to lower than low..."
You should reread the advice because you haven't understood ANY of it. In fact you just made this part up because there is nothing in the advice that agrees with your comment > " ...my exposure was very low to lower than low..."
Okay, thank you.
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