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T E A K -How dare you...
Mine is not a story, it's not made up, it's my life's experience. Wheather you believe it or not the police who responded to the call and the Doctor who attended to me concured and an arrest was made based on this plus the syringes on her person. You have been openly hostile towards me for whatever reason even though i have been your defender @ times of his forum as well as extending you respect @ certain moments. You are really coming off as a bitter here and why it's dirrected at me i don't get. I did'nt come on here to get $hit on by you Teak, i also don't appreciate being called a lier in so many words, i don't understand what reasons you think i would have for telling a lie. My exposure is unusual but is also very real, make no mistatke. I can't believe this happened to me but it did and i'm dealing with it as best i can, i'd appreciate not having to having to bypass the bull$hit of others just cause my risk is different, this is why regardless of what happens i'm never going to tell anyone anything anymore, in my personal life i have not mentioned it to anyone except for my ex-girlfriend and the people on this forum. I guess there are somethings in life that are unbelievable to others no matter how simple something like this is to do. ..
I just know about these four cases. Don't get so cranky either Shadow (o: !!! I am actually feeling really good right now, better than I have felt in two months.
I don't think millions of people have been simultaneously co-infected with HIV/HCV (simultaneosly is the key word here). It has happened in hospitals but I don't think that there is so many cases to be studied.
Where it probably happens often is among drug users.
I doubt that many drug users shoot up then wait 3months - 1year to see if they got a co-infection, before running out to shoot up again.
People who shoot up most likely due it on a daily-weekly basis, thus making it impossible to see if they were simultaneously co-infected. Thus this makes it difficult to say if a co-infected drug user got both the viruses at the same time or at different times.
I don't think millions of people have been simultaneously co-infected with HIV/HCV (simultaneosly is the key word here). It has happened in hospitals but I don't think that there is so many cases to be studied.
Where it probably happens often is among drug users.
I doubt that many drug users shoot up then wait 3months - 1year to see if they got a co-infection, before running out to shoot up again.
People who shoot up most likely due it on a daily-weekly basis, thus making it impossible to see if they were simultaneously co-infected. Thus this makes it difficult to say if a co-infected drug user got both the viruses at the same time or at different times.
keep on reading thats your problem the more you read the more mess you will find and the more pain you will bring to yourself
Yes that IS true but I would think that it would be too much of a coincidence that ALL these people would have had repeat exposures after their first.
I do know that is true about PEP, but so far I haven't heard of anybody who has taken PEP after an exposure to seroconvert later than 6 months. All the cases in which they have seroconverted later than 6 months (for HIV) has occured when HCV was an exposure (with or without PEP).
I don't know if you have read this case, but there was a case of a lady who was co-infected at the same time for HIV and HCV. This poor lady refused PEP and proceeded to seroconvert after 6 months to HIV. Eleven months after her exposure she died of HCV related liver failure.
I don't know Teak....I REALLY do hope you are right, and I am not trying to demine your experitise on HIV. I am just saying that these reports do seem to be saying that simulataneous exposion to HIV and HCV may lead to delayed sero-conversion.
Happy New Year by the way, and my best wishes to you and yours (o:
I don't know if you have read this case, but there was a case of a lady who was co-infected at the same time for HIV and HCV. This poor lady refused PEP and proceeded to seroconvert after 6 months to HIV. Eleven months after her exposure she died of HCV related liver failure.
I don't know Teak....I REALLY do hope you are right, and I am not trying to demine your experitise on HIV. I am just saying that these reports do seem to be saying that simulataneous exposion to HIV and HCV may lead to delayed sero-conversion.
Happy New Year by the way, and my best wishes to you and yours (o:
Anyone that takes PEP has to again wait out 13 weeks after their last dose to test again. Peer statements on exposures are not reliable. Most people wouldn't say that they were exposed again and we are talking "unknown needle stick" not sexual transmission.
No I really don't have too much comments on PEP as I haven't researched that as much.
What I mean to point out here is that the mans risk for Hepatitis and HIV occured in December 2003. He went on to develop Hepatitis C in March AND then he tested positive for HIV in July 2004.
Remember that it states that his exposure was anal sex with an HIV positive man and that his baseline tests right after the exposure where negative for HIV and HCV. It wasn't until 6-7 months later that he tested positive for HIV. Hence a delayed seroconversion after co-infection with HCV and HIV.
What I mean to point out here is that the mans risk for Hepatitis and HIV occured in December 2003. He went on to develop Hepatitis C in March AND then he tested positive for HIV in July 2004.
Remember that it states that his exposure was anal sex with an HIV positive man and that his baseline tests right after the exposure where negative for HIV and HCV. It wasn't until 6-7 months later that he tested positive for HIV. Hence a delayed seroconversion after co-infection with HCV and HIV.
i want to ask you some serious questions here.
what do you get out of this forum?
what makes you keep posting?
are you getting "support"?
does coming to this forum answer any questions?
when you take a break for a few minutes...do you feel better...relieved?
what do you get out of this forum?
what makes you keep posting?
are you getting "support"?
does coming to this forum answer any questions?
when you take a break for a few minutes...do you feel better...relieved?
Here is another one for you guys. Feel free to comment, as I wouldnt' mind hearing some opinions.
PEP, HIV, hepatitis C and late seroconversion
A second letter in the same edition of AIDS was also concerned with PEP. It reported concomitant seroconversion with HIV and hepatitis C in a gay man. The HIV seroconversion occurred unusually late - seven months after exposure to HIV and the use of PEP.
In December 2003, a 24 year-old gay man was prescribed PEP consisting of Combivir and indinavir (Crixivan) for four weeks following receptive unprotected anal sex with an HIV-positive man. Initial HIV and hepatitis C tests were both negative.
In March 2004, however, the patient was diagnosed with hepatitis C virus. An HIV test at this time, and again two months later was negative.
However, despite claiming that he had been adherent to his course of PEP, and denying any further HIV risk behaviour, the man tested HIV-positive in July 2004. At the time of HIV diagnosis, his viral load was a little under 9,000 copies/ml and his CD4 cell count was 540 cells/mm3.
The authors provide some possible explanation for these unusual events. They note that animal models suggest the PEP is likely to be most effective is provided within 24 hours of exposure to HIV. However, their patient only sought treatment 30 hours after his HIV exposure. They also speculate that hepatitis C could have delayed HIV seroconversion and that PEP could have failed because of an interaction between the two viruses. They conclude, “in the case of sexual or professional exposure to both viruses a prolonged follow-up is recommended to cover a risk of late seroconversion.”
PEP, HIV, hepatitis C and late seroconversion
A second letter in the same edition of AIDS was also concerned with PEP. It reported concomitant seroconversion with HIV and hepatitis C in a gay man. The HIV seroconversion occurred unusually late - seven months after exposure to HIV and the use of PEP.
In December 2003, a 24 year-old gay man was prescribed PEP consisting of Combivir and indinavir (Crixivan) for four weeks following receptive unprotected anal sex with an HIV-positive man. Initial HIV and hepatitis C tests were both negative.
In March 2004, however, the patient was diagnosed with hepatitis C virus. An HIV test at this time, and again two months later was negative.
However, despite claiming that he had been adherent to his course of PEP, and denying any further HIV risk behaviour, the man tested HIV-positive in July 2004. At the time of HIV diagnosis, his viral load was a little under 9,000 copies/ml and his CD4 cell count was 540 cells/mm3.
The authors provide some possible explanation for these unusual events. They note that animal models suggest the PEP is likely to be most effective is provided within 24 hours of exposure to HIV. However, their patient only sought treatment 30 hours after his HIV exposure. They also speculate that hepatitis C could have delayed HIV seroconversion and that PEP could have failed because of an interaction between the two viruses. They conclude, “in the case of sexual or professional exposure to both viruses a prolonged follow-up is recommended to cover a risk of late seroconversion.”
Yeah, i read about this one but that like you said, 10-15 years ago @ this point i guess, but if normal guidlines were 6 months back then that was 4/ 5 months past due my friend, that's alarming...nobody has explained the qualities that hep contains that cause hiv tests to be obscurred. I don't know much, but i do know that the body produced anti bodies to hep when exposed to it, i'll be they can't even tell the difference between hep & hiv, isn't hep-c a relativly new virus as well? Maybe hiv is it's cousin....how much have they closed the gap in the years after this womans exposure? I'd say it takes 6 / 7 months for someone like myself and the fella i read about on youtube who recently tested all the way out to 8 months! Chris, tell me you would be on edge man...
Yeah, i don't know anybody with hiv -or- hcv, or both co-infected...how does that make a difference? I do know that she is likley carrying both viruses as a iv drug user / homeless - though. HCV 80% chance, HIV 90% chance HIV / HEP=170% F'-ed my friend...Still having dry mouth, blood vessles in eyes still broken, Tounge is looking diff, Moles growing-changing, i look like a big pile of dog-$hit what do you think of that, i know don't tell me....doubting Thomas...it's cool...happy new year!
Look it up. That should keep you off this forum for a while with your nonsense. I doubt you even know one person with HCV let alone people that are or were co-infected.
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