HIV risk

[boy2011]

Hi guys
I just made very stupid decision month ago and had unprotected oral/vaginal sex with the girl that is working for the same company.We had party and I was little bit dizzy already she ask me that we could use protection but I guess was to hard for me to put it on....And here I am know...The sex was only 20 min and I finish over her face on the end.
later on I find out that she have a boyfirend that is working for the same company ,but I speak to the guy and he told me that she is playing around.So I guess she can have it.
Regarding simptoms I have swallen tonsils for week know already but they dont hurt when i touch them acctualy they are not large just like small bubble,no other simptoms just sometimes headache...I took doxycilin to prevent other STD-s .The problem is i am freaking out because not wearing condom...Can you please advice what is my risk and I would like to test as soon as possible.
Thanks

[boy2011]

Good but this dont change my negative test result...over and out!

[Teak]

P24 tests are not approved for diagnostic use and must be used in conjunction with an antibody test and the conclusive result on an antibody test is 3 months post exposure.

[boy2011]

If I was infected antibodies will kick in after p24 ...attach to the proteins
I feel excellent never better....life goes on

[Teak]

p24 test is not good after 3-4 weeks post exposure.

[boy2011]

Thanks Teak I am aware of that ....but honestly if I where positive p24 will be ractive after 6 weeks.
I dont think I have it....not from this exposure 3months or not test dont lie.

[Teak]

There are no tests marketed or sold to give a conclusive negative test result earlier than
3 months.

[boy2011]

Well i did not test at 3months but they asshure me in the hospital that the test that was done p24+ab ELISA is accurate after 4 weeks? 99,9%

[boy2011]

I will test at 3 months ....and post results.
Thanks for support ,God Bless!

[nursegirl6572]

That's great news...it is HIGHLY unlikely to change, but follow up with a test at 3 months.  Insist on condoms from now on for any insertive sex!

[boy2011]

6 weeks Negative ab test.

[boy2011]

Hi guys

Tomorow is testing day,wish me luck!

Thanks for support

[GSWHOOPZ]

Look, I am not here to argue with you all I am saying is that they dont always say there is NO risk. They say it is a very small risk but there is a risk is all I am trying to say.

[boy2011]

I agree about oral sex that is almost zero risk or even no risk.The problem is I am close to 6 weeks testing and I whant to end this after 3 month pass.Honestly unprotected sex dont deserve all this anxiety and stress.I hope they find cure very soon.I pray for that.
If I will be pozz or neg i will post my result .However it will not be conclusive before 3 months.
I dont have any major simptoms for now that I can connect with HIV and i asked the girl she sad she is negative ,but still God knows when she get tested last time?
The only thing i know that I was tested regulary trough 6 months and i am negative .....
Will be God s will hope he give me one more chance to correct my behaviors.
Thanks

[Teak]

No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228

AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men

Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;

Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.

There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD

"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD

"I am sure you can find lots of people who believe that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK

in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA

"HIV is not spread by masturbation, through oral sex, through kissing or other casual contact." Dr. Hook

"The observation on thousands and thousands of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort)." DR HOOK
"I would not say your risk ,if he had HIV is "slim to none"- that's too high.  I would say they are effectively zero.  How much of his ejaculate or other genital  secretions you may have swallowed makes no difference.  EWH "

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[GSWHOOPZ]

You should just get tested it will put your mind at ease so you wont have to worry about it anymore. Many on this forum like Lizzie and Teak say that there is no risk with oral and will show you quotes with Dr. Hook and Dr. HHH saying that it is not a risk but if you search the forums you will find that they tell many people that it is a risk although a very small risk.

[RainLover71]

One time exposures are still a risk,it makes no difference.A risk is a risk.Full stop.

[boy2011]

Just a statistic question :
Is very comon to cach the HIV virus from one time  vaginal sex ?

[boy2011]

Hi Lizzie

Good to know I love Key West ,God Bless you!

[LIZZIE LOU]

"I have ear buzzing all the time is this ARS?"

NO

[boy2011]

Didi you have simptoms when you where infected ?
I have ear buzzing all the time is this ARS ?

[Teak]

3 months is when you can obtain your conclusive test result.

[boy2011]

Thanks teak ,what about test at 6 weeks is this not enough time.Many doctors say HIV DUO VIDAS ULTRA is 99,8% accurate past 30 days?

[Teak]

3 months post exposure is when you can obtain your conclusive negative test result.