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More ?'s about pac's pvc's
I would like to say how much I admire your willingness to take time out of your day to answer questions.
I can say how grateful I am to have this outlet.I have gained much insight.My fear is still there but it helps to know I am not alone.
I have panic disorder& I had a terrible bout of pac's pvc's after a day of dehydration.exhertion.
I am deconditioned but am active and losing steadily.
I am 28 years old,do not drink,no drugs,never ever coffee have not drank soda since 1987,no chocolate.Mother of 5.
have had numerous ekgs,countless blood tests,my numbers are 160& 71 & the doc says I need to get my one number down.My fatty blood tests have been 200- 230 since age18.
I am currently battling a bout of bronchitis, 2 weeks which I think is caused from allergies/gerd.
questions?
can improper sleeping/anxiety cause muscle smasms in the left chest above the breast?I get scared because it feels like my heart when in good sense I know its muscular?
Can bronchitis cause&increase in pvc's when you are not rested&even though I am staying very hydrated I am just not hungry/ am afraid to eat for fear of triggering skips.
I notice more pvc's when I have eaten a banana-conincidence or something more?What causes muscle spasms in the chest(never no pain just see the skin)?
Is it possible that I have had pvc's for most of my life¬ know until I became hypervigilant to my body?
My holter recorded more pac's then pvc's. any signifigance?
why do I get chest pains when I have gas,belching?
one day I ate barley,broccoli,salmon&20 mins I was in pain&loose stools,then ok
I can say how grateful I am to have this outlet.I have gained much insight.My fear is still there but it helps to know I am not alone.
I have panic disorder& I had a terrible bout of pac's pvc's after a day of dehydration.exhertion.
I am deconditioned but am active and losing steadily.
I am 28 years old,do not drink,no drugs,never ever coffee have not drank soda since 1987,no chocolate.Mother of 5.
have had numerous ekgs,countless blood tests,my numbers are 160& 71 & the doc says I need to get my one number down.My fatty blood tests have been 200- 230 since age18.
I am currently battling a bout of bronchitis, 2 weeks which I think is caused from allergies/gerd.
questions?
can improper sleeping/anxiety cause muscle smasms in the left chest above the breast?I get scared because it feels like my heart when in good sense I know its muscular?
Can bronchitis cause&increase in pvc's when you are not rested&even though I am staying very hydrated I am just not hungry/ am afraid to eat for fear of triggering skips.
I notice more pvc's when I have eaten a banana-conincidence or something more?What causes muscle spasms in the chest(never no pain just see the skin)?
Is it possible that I have had pvc's for most of my life¬ know until I became hypervigilant to my body?
My holter recorded more pac's then pvc's. any signifigance?
why do I get chest pains when I have gas,belching?
one day I ate barley,broccoli,salmon&20 mins I was in pain&loose stools,then ok
thanks so much! I have not been on this forum comment place before. You were so right about it al doyle. I do not want to divorce but a move to the south seas would be great!! ha ha I will ask my dr. about inderol. I had not even thought of a different drug or the idea that I may need a high dose for my body. have you used st.john's wort? goodgal, would you rec. I try this before an anti-anxiety medication? have either of you taken this and a beta blocker at the same time? My friend told me yesterday that if I am already taking a heart med to manage the PVC's then what is the difference if I take a different drug? I am still taking meds to cope with this. thanks again I really appreciate your insight. Jill
I am interested about the anxiety idea....I have always had some PVC/PAC's but lately they are driving me crazy-- all the tests say I am "normal" and they are benign. I am on an increased dose (50 mg now) of atenolol and slowly, it is not working anymore. I have a TON of stresses right now and will for the next 6-9 months while we move, change jobs, schools, etc. My fam prac Dr. has never mentioned/suggested anxiety or panic meds. I know I am high strung now with all that is changing in our lives. Any insight? I have ambien when they are so bad I can't sleep, but that is just a short acting sleeping med. I am afraid to go on a anti-anxiety drug... scared about the side effects. It causes me to have anxiety thinking about it!! However, I really could relate to what was said earlier about what we think can be an adrenaline trigger and cause them. I am so glad to have this forum. thanks for any insight anyone...
What is your best advice to one who gets anxiety after exercise?
I can exercise with no problems but sometimes I get attacks right after exercise..its like my heart rate drops fairly quick but then I get a trigger and then boom I am in anxiety..
I have been very careful not to overdo it but it effects me..
I can exercise with no problems but sometimes I get attacks right after exercise..its like my heart rate drops fairly quick but then I get a trigger and then boom I am in anxiety..
I have been very careful not to overdo it but it effects me..
I read your post with interest. You are not alone in your reluctance to take tranquilizers or other anti-anxiety medications. Even though many people with anxiety may be miserable with many uncomfortable symptoms caused by stress, they often resist taking a medication that might help them. They fear becomming addicted to the drug or more importantly they hate admitting that they have failed to cure themselves of anxiety without medications. You are caught between a rock and a hard place because you readily recognize that stress is playing a big-time role in your life right now and will play a big role in the future, but you like to think that you should be able to cure yourself of anxiety related symptoms without medications. You know that some people say that they have found relief in medication but you think that you are different. You are afraid! You should be able to do it without drugs. Right? Well, maybe.
There are some non-drug things you CAN do which may reduce the negative symptoms of stress. Most of them take time to be effective and much consistent effort to make them work. Regular gentle repetitive exercises like walking for an hour or so a day helps some people to relax. Swimming is good. Daily meditation or prayer also may be effective as are yoga exercises. There are reports that hypnosis is effective in removing the symptoms of stress and if you are so inclined, regression to so-called past lives may be effective. More intensive things include psychoanalysis, biofeedback and cognitive behavioral therapy. A more drastic approach might include quitting a stressful job, getting a divorce or running off to the south seas. You probably already know all of these things.
Well, I guess that I have tried most of them myself except running off to the south seas. All of the above things have helped me somewhat to relieve my stress and anxiety, but sad to say, here I am after a lifetime of trying various remedies, still with a few residual symptoms of stress including PVCs and PACs.
I don't know what really causes my palpitations. There are many theories, but I do know that if I didn't have access to medications throughout my life I probably would be a basket case by now. First of all, beta blockers have helped my PVCs and PACs. I have tried Atenolol, Toprol XL and Inderal. Most important is correct dosage. Not everyone needs the same dose. Some people need a much higher dose of beta blockers to get relief of palpitations because their nervous tone is so much higher. I like Inderal best because it affects my whole nervous system, not just the nerves of my heart. I think that Inderal is very safe and has been used for many years for hypertension, migraine headaches and for performance anxiety as well as arrthythmias. I like it and I feel comfortable with it. I am not afraid to take it. And THAT is perhaps the most important thing with the effectiveness of any medication. If you fear the medication it will be less likely to help you than if you think positively about it. There is much truth to the placebo effect and if one thinks that something will help then maybe it will. Conversely, if you are afraid of a medication or think that it will not help, then perhaps it will be less likely to help and may even cause unwanted side effects due primarily to fear generating thoughts, not the medication itself.
Probably many people are reluctant to take anti-anxiety medications or tranquilizers but there are newer ones now that are not as addicting as benzodiazapines. Some of the antidepressants like the SSRI's have anti-anxiety properties. Some are stimulating however so it is important to have a knowledgeable physician, preferably a psychiatrist prescribe an SSRI for anxiety. Come people take an SSRI and become more anxious so it is important to work with your physician until you find the one that works best for you. SSRI's do sometimes have some minor withdrawl symptoms but usually they are mild and can be tolerated. In contrast benzodiazapines, like Xanax, have serious withdrawal and rebound effects if stopped abruptly and even when tapered off slowly, the withdrawal symptoms can be uncomfortable.
I am not afraid to take Xanax because it provides help with anxiety when I really need it. I just don't take it regularly, that is, every day. I only take it when I don't have time or energy to try all of those other things. I have experienced the withdrawal effects of Xanax and I surely don't want to do that again. But with due caution and common sense, a so-called tranquilizer like Xanax can be life saving.
There are some non-drug things you CAN do which may reduce the negative symptoms of stress. Most of them take time to be effective and much consistent effort to make them work. Regular gentle repetitive exercises like walking for an hour or so a day helps some people to relax. Swimming is good. Daily meditation or prayer also may be effective as are yoga exercises. There are reports that hypnosis is effective in removing the symptoms of stress and if you are so inclined, regression to so-called past lives may be effective. More intensive things include psychoanalysis, biofeedback and cognitive behavioral therapy. A more drastic approach might include quitting a stressful job, getting a divorce or running off to the south seas. You probably already know all of these things.
Well, I guess that I have tried most of them myself except running off to the south seas. All of the above things have helped me somewhat to relieve my stress and anxiety, but sad to say, here I am after a lifetime of trying various remedies, still with a few residual symptoms of stress including PVCs and PACs.
I don't know what really causes my palpitations. There are many theories, but I do know that if I didn't have access to medications throughout my life I probably would be a basket case by now. First of all, beta blockers have helped my PVCs and PACs. I have tried Atenolol, Toprol XL and Inderal. Most important is correct dosage. Not everyone needs the same dose. Some people need a much higher dose of beta blockers to get relief of palpitations because their nervous tone is so much higher. I like Inderal best because it affects my whole nervous system, not just the nerves of my heart. I think that Inderal is very safe and has been used for many years for hypertension, migraine headaches and for performance anxiety as well as arrthythmias. I like it and I feel comfortable with it. I am not afraid to take it. And THAT is perhaps the most important thing with the effectiveness of any medication. If you fear the medication it will be less likely to help you than if you think positively about it. There is much truth to the placebo effect and if one thinks that something will help then maybe it will. Conversely, if you are afraid of a medication or think that it will not help, then perhaps it will be less likely to help and may even cause unwanted side effects due primarily to fear generating thoughts, not the medication itself.
Probably many people are reluctant to take anti-anxiety medications or tranquilizers but there are newer ones now that are not as addicting as benzodiazapines. Some of the antidepressants like the SSRI's have anti-anxiety properties. Some are stimulating however so it is important to have a knowledgeable physician, preferably a psychiatrist prescribe an SSRI for anxiety. Come people take an SSRI and become more anxious so it is important to work with your physician until you find the one that works best for you. SSRI's do sometimes have some minor withdrawl symptoms but usually they are mild and can be tolerated. In contrast benzodiazapines, like Xanax, have serious withdrawal and rebound effects if stopped abruptly and even when tapered off slowly, the withdrawal symptoms can be uncomfortable.
I am not afraid to take Xanax because it provides help with anxiety when I really need it. I just don't take it regularly, that is, every day. I only take it when I don't have time or energy to try all of those other things. I have experienced the withdrawal effects of Xanax and I surely don't want to do that again. But with due caution and common sense, a so-called tranquilizer like Xanax can be life saving.
Thank you for posting the url for the stomach info. I had been researching this area for a while and had suggested this possibility to my Doc on numerous occasions, only to be met with a definite shake of the head and a 'not possible"!--Its great to see ones theory written in black and white AND to be able to rub my docs face in it. (YES anger management is probably my better option at the moment--haha, only kidding)
"When the stomach is popped up it has a tendency to lay up against the heart causing it to lose rhythm and beat irregularly. This situation is the great mimic because it can express symptoms anywhere there is blood"
The comment received here from the site docs and you people has given me more of an idea of what the problem might be then 9 months of visiting doctors who are more interested in treatin easy problems like common colds and bleeding noses.Some of us are suffering from a lot of anxiety,some of us just want to find out where the problem lies without being labelled panic disorders or hysterical menopausal women(if you are female and in that age group) and yes the docs may be right in assuming we are not all going to drop dead tomorrow, but that still does not mean the majority of us should be fobbed off as hypochondriacs and told to swallow any kind of rotten pill to make us go away more then anything.A human being basically knows when there is a problem--after all--it is our body and we can feel if there is a change or if there is something that doesnt feel quite right.Too often the mistakes made by the medical profession are kept quiet and hidden-in my circle alone i have had a woman with leukemia misdiagnosed, Ms and several cancers misdiagnosed and umpteen heart probs totally screwed up.DOCS are only human--they make plenty of mistakes.Its up to you and me to find out as much as we can without letting it make us go crazy, and then looking at every finding objectively. Food cant cause problems???? B$##@@#t
In the past 2 weeks i have given up eating wheat and grains--as a test and guess what--no palpatations at all, the bloating is minimised and the choking feeling hasnt returned.I am taking Magnesium for muscle cramping(fantastic) St Johns Wort for any anxiety(PLEASE TRY THIS- it should be the first thing you try for anxiety problems)) and Omega fishoil as a good all over antioxident.Vitamin B12 and a standard B and some co enzyme Q10--also take some swedish bitters to clean the liver. I am using natural transdermal progestrone cream to fix any hormonal problems and having a good remedial massage once a week to fix any possible referred pain from back and neck problems.It is all truly working-unbelievable. Now all i need to do is make sure i have no autoimmune problems as suggested by the good doc on this site and Im on my way to feeling better! Good Luck to you all!
AMOS, Thank you so much for your contributions...you really seem to have covered all areas and have made me feel sooo much better!! You have opened my eyes to a wide spectrum of possibilities that may be the cause of my PVC's and helped me realize that in all probibility, my PVC's are caused by anxiety.
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