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PVC's and/or VENTRICULAR BIGEMINY
I am a 42 year old male, very active. Recently lost a great deal of weight. After a very nerve racking 2 weeks, I have been diagnosed with Ventricular Bigeminy or also PVC's. I have had every test, given what seems to be gallons of blood and am being told that my heart is chemically and physically healthy, but this is just something that I will need to live with. In this day of medical miracles, etc., I have a hard time thinking that I just have to live with this, but if that is the way it is, so be it. My question is this, I am wondering if there are any vitamins, etc., that I can take that may help these to not be so bad. I know I can take Atenolol, but that is a stronger BP med and if would only control, if there is some vitamin or something less harmfull, I would like to try that. Also, if there is anyone who is reading this that suffers from the same thing, I would love to hear from you as to how you are dealing with these. I have been given the OK to return to my regular 6 day a week work out schedule and so I do plan on doing that. I would just appreciate any advice that anyone can give me.
Thank You...RDLOVE
Thank You...RDLOVE
Hello
I am 35 and 2 weeks ago freeked out Sunday night when my heart kept palping it came out of the blue no reason what so ever, I dont live a stress out life and am a vearly calm person by nature . I did get them years ago but it was only one or two and it happen just once,,but hear I am 2 weeks later stilling palping away,,I have cut all caffine out of my diet and am waiting my test results (montior and eco). I find that if I am up and around walking around and active i dont either feel them or pay attention but i do get some that stop me in my tracks,,,I ntice that its when i dont get them that I stop and say"hey havent had one in awhile". Any how I have learned alot from this forum and i thank everyone i dont feel as scared as i was thinking I was going to have a heart attack any day now...
Its just strange how all of sudden this is happing,,,,I was on the Atkins diet for one month before this and I was taking supplements mag+potasuim and fish oil to keep the shakes away from being on low carbs for so long,,,but its weird that the palps happen after i got off the diet and of course quickly regain my 5 pounds that i lost :)
But yes 2 weeks ago today it all started and I really dont know how to deal with this,,but it looks like this board will help me alot,,,,,,,Thank You. Any response will be apreciated and welcomed.
(p.s. Sorry,,I am a bad speller)
Maria
I am 35 and 2 weeks ago freeked out Sunday night when my heart kept palping it came out of the blue no reason what so ever, I dont live a stress out life and am a vearly calm person by nature . I did get them years ago but it was only one or two and it happen just once,,but hear I am 2 weeks later stilling palping away,,I have cut all caffine out of my diet and am waiting my test results (montior and eco). I find that if I am up and around walking around and active i dont either feel them or pay attention but i do get some that stop me in my tracks,,,I ntice that its when i dont get them that I stop and say"hey havent had one in awhile". Any how I have learned alot from this forum and i thank everyone i dont feel as scared as i was thinking I was going to have a heart attack any day now...
Its just strange how all of sudden this is happing,,,,I was on the Atkins diet for one month before this and I was taking supplements mag+potasuim and fish oil to keep the shakes away from being on low carbs for so long,,,but its weird that the palps happen after i got off the diet and of course quickly regain my 5 pounds that i lost :)
But yes 2 weeks ago today it all started and I really dont know how to deal with this,,but it looks like this board will help me alot,,,,,,,Thank You. Any response will be apreciated and welcomed.
(p.s. Sorry,,I am a bad speller)
Maria
the only tests that i have had done are a holter, event monitor and an echo. another echo on april 6th. every doctor has told me to go ahead and have another baby, one even told me that she see's alot of womens pvc's get better in pregnancy, i know mine wont because i had increased psvt with my son. i just feel like the doctors missed something, i think thats everyones worries with pvc's "maybe mine are caused by something fatal that the doctors missed, maybe mine arnt benign like they say" its my anxiety taking over. why do they tell me to go ahead with pregnancy but wont give me a perscription for birth control pills??? i want to have more babies but i think its safe to say im scared to DEATH to have another, i dont want to do anything that might take me away from the son i have now.
kim
kim
Kim,
Good luck with your echo on the 6th!! Ask your doctor if he/she would sit down and discuss the results with you in person. Ask them if you are any increased risk (after the echo) and trust what the doctor tells you. Hopefully, they will be able to compare your previous echo to this one. That way, they will look for any changes, etc. The new echo may be "just what the doctor ordered." It may give you the added reassurance that you need. Personally, I think it is most important to have faith and trust the experts.
Good luck!
connie
Good luck with your echo on the 6th!! Ask your doctor if he/she would sit down and discuss the results with you in person. Ask them if you are any increased risk (after the echo) and trust what the doctor tells you. Hopefully, they will be able to compare your previous echo to this one. That way, they will look for any changes, etc. The new echo may be "just what the doctor ordered." It may give you the added reassurance that you need. Personally, I think it is most important to have faith and trust the experts.
Good luck!
connie
So tell me, if I have PVC's and/or Ventricular Bigeminy, which I do, I am told that alcohol is not good for any heart condition. Is that true or is it a moderation thing? I am NOT a heavy drinker, believe me, but I would love a glass of wine now and then or even a nice margarita from time to time.
If there is a doctor in the house, I would love to hear from you.
Thanks...Rick
If there is a doctor in the house, I would love to hear from you.
Thanks...Rick
rdlove,
An ablation is done with catheters inserted through the arteries and veins of both groins and in some cases a catheter also inserted in a neck artery into the heart for the purpose of detecting hot spots that are emitting erratic signals that causes disarrhythymias of the heart and are ablated,(burned), to kill those erratic signals with radio frequency power. This results in scar tissue that is formed as a result of the ablation process and the scar tissue blocks the bad signals that have been 'spilling' into the atria and other areas like a Christmas sparkler.
Armyman,
I think your questions and concern are entirely appropriate on this thread. I have experienced pvc's since July 1964 and afib since May 1971. I have taken every kind of medication and tried all kinds of supplements and eating programs includingn distilled water/osmosis water trying to control afib and pvc's throughtout all those years.
I eventually became debilitated with the devilish mess last year espically in May. From last May and forward, the afib increased in frequency along with pvc's. Sometimes I would have just afib which was bad, but then I would have episodes of afib and pvc's at the same time and that combination would 'take me down' everytime. Frequent and urgent urination would start in. I mean every 4, 5, 6 minutes have to urinate during these episodes as if I hadn't urinated in five or six hours each time I did. I still don't know why the nerves trigger my bladder to go into overtime. But it's the pits especially when you are not near a bathroom. These attacks made me feel as if I were dying or at least going to pass out. Terrible feelings.
Twenty days ago I had a Pulmonary Vein Ablation and have not had afib since. However, I can't say that about he pvc's yet. I am still plagued just as much with them with sometimes 5 - 35 - 50 a minute. Sometimes I have pvc's and I just know I've had a pvc and doesn't bother me. Too many times I have pvc's that are very forceful and give me the anxiety/panic feeling and a few seconds to recover and then another one hits.
I am taking 100 mgs of flecainide twice daily to help prevent afib from returning during the healing process and also 25 mg of atenolol twice a day to help control the pvc's. I only wish the atenolol would completely control pvc's but it doesn't. Only helps somewhat. One of the bad side effects of atenolol is extreme fatigue.
The EP that did my ablation is confident that the pvc's will subside during the healing process of the pva. I certainly hope he is correct. If they do not subside there is the alternative of another ablation for pvc's. I am trying to have patience during this process.
Most people are fortunate not to have bigeminy and pvc's and only experience afib, which is bad enough, but not as bad and having them all.
Regards,
Glenn Camp
An ablation is done with catheters inserted through the arteries and veins of both groins and in some cases a catheter also inserted in a neck artery into the heart for the purpose of detecting hot spots that are emitting erratic signals that causes disarrhythymias of the heart and are ablated,(burned), to kill those erratic signals with radio frequency power. This results in scar tissue that is formed as a result of the ablation process and the scar tissue blocks the bad signals that have been 'spilling' into the atria and other areas like a Christmas sparkler.
Armyman,
I think your questions and concern are entirely appropriate on this thread. I have experienced pvc's since July 1964 and afib since May 1971. I have taken every kind of medication and tried all kinds of supplements and eating programs includingn distilled water/osmosis water trying to control afib and pvc's throughtout all those years.
I eventually became debilitated with the devilish mess last year espically in May. From last May and forward, the afib increased in frequency along with pvc's. Sometimes I would have just afib which was bad, but then I would have episodes of afib and pvc's at the same time and that combination would 'take me down' everytime. Frequent and urgent urination would start in. I mean every 4, 5, 6 minutes have to urinate during these episodes as if I hadn't urinated in five or six hours each time I did. I still don't know why the nerves trigger my bladder to go into overtime. But it's the pits especially when you are not near a bathroom. These attacks made me feel as if I were dying or at least going to pass out. Terrible feelings.
Twenty days ago I had a Pulmonary Vein Ablation and have not had afib since. However, I can't say that about he pvc's yet. I am still plagued just as much with them with sometimes 5 - 35 - 50 a minute. Sometimes I have pvc's and I just know I've had a pvc and doesn't bother me. Too many times I have pvc's that are very forceful and give me the anxiety/panic feeling and a few seconds to recover and then another one hits.
I am taking 100 mgs of flecainide twice daily to help prevent afib from returning during the healing process and also 25 mg of atenolol twice a day to help control the pvc's. I only wish the atenolol would completely control pvc's but it doesn't. Only helps somewhat. One of the bad side effects of atenolol is extreme fatigue.
The EP that did my ablation is confident that the pvc's will subside during the healing process of the pva. I certainly hope he is correct. If they do not subside there is the alternative of another ablation for pvc's. I am trying to have patience during this process.
Most people are fortunate not to have bigeminy and pvc's and only experience afib, which is bad enough, but not as bad and having them all.
Regards,
Glenn Camp
I know exactly how you feel, because I had PAC's that bad.
I know that my PAC's varied in intensity from time to time.
If you are highly symptomatic I would try going to an EP. This is a cardiologist that specializes in arrythmias. But go to a good one at a large university hospital that has a long track record of doing ablations etc. (See previous post on ablations.)
It took me 9 years to finally receive significant relief, and that was through an ablation.
I know from my experience that my PAC's went up and down due to a number of factors: the biggest factor was stress. Stress reducing measures helped me immensely. Exercise definitely is helpful. But get a doctor's OK.
If you want to start exercising, you probably need to work at it slowly to build up confidence that you can do it. Just start with a short 3 to 5 minute jog. Sometimes we are so anxious about the activity that it becomes a phobia. One of the ways to deal with phobias is to just try a little and then try more to get over the fear. I also found that as I exercised my mental ability to deal with the PAC's was better because I didn't feel like they (PAC's) controlled me.
Trust you will feel better soon.
I know that my PAC's varied in intensity from time to time.
If you are highly symptomatic I would try going to an EP. This is a cardiologist that specializes in arrythmias. But go to a good one at a large university hospital that has a long track record of doing ablations etc. (See previous post on ablations.)
It took me 9 years to finally receive significant relief, and that was through an ablation.
I know from my experience that my PAC's went up and down due to a number of factors: the biggest factor was stress. Stress reducing measures helped me immensely. Exercise definitely is helpful. But get a doctor's OK.
If you want to start exercising, you probably need to work at it slowly to build up confidence that you can do it. Just start with a short 3 to 5 minute jog. Sometimes we are so anxious about the activity that it becomes a phobia. One of the ways to deal with phobias is to just try a little and then try more to get over the fear. I also found that as I exercised my mental ability to deal with the PAC's was better because I didn't feel like they (PAC's) controlled me.
Trust you will feel better soon.
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