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Vitamin D and the anti-viral stat

http://www.cnic.org.cn/pdf/2011-1-29/Vitamin%20D%20and%20the%20anti-viral%20st.pdf


very good article about vitamin d direct antiviral effect and immune modulatory effect
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Thanks. A very good article. But the debate is: what is the optimal level of Vitamin D in a healthy person and should hepatitis B patients take extra Vitamin D?
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wrong debate:
we know having high vitamin d levels is healthy and that mortality rate gets lower between 50-80ng/ml while increasing after 80ng/ml so we have better keep the levels there

since we dont expose to sun anymore everybody needs extra vit d....rickets is back in uk after about a century as an example
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good point.

we all agree that Vitamin D and heptitis b (DNA) are correlated but we should not consider that the hepatitis b is weak do to the vitamin D (maybe vitamin d level and weaknes of heptitis b are do to some other factor)

anyway this is a good article.
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I think this is a good debate.

how do we know that the level of vitamin D is the cause for healthy ?
we can determine (know) that healthy persons have high level vitamin D, but this is only a correlation and the cause can be something other.

if Y is correlated to X  => X determine (cause) Y or Y determine (cause) X or something else determine (cause) both X and Y or ...
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another thing we know for sure, not from this article but from other studies, macrophages cant get activated if there is no vitamin d to normal level which are not set to 40ng/ml or even 50ng/ml for some researchser

and another point we know for sure is that below 50ng/ml the body uses all vit d and over 50ng/ml starts to make deposits for winter time.this is of course or healthy people since infected people might have a continuous use of vit d
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"The scientific community continues to debate the optimum level of vitamin D. In general, people are considered to be deficient if they have blood levels below 15 or 20 nanograms per milliliter. But many doctors now believe vitamin D levels should be above 30. The ideal level isn’t known, nor is it known at what point a person is getting too much vitamin D, which can lead to kidney stones, calcification in blood vessels and other problems.

People’s vitamin D levels are influenced by whether they have light or dark skin, where they live, how much time they spend outdoors and by fish and milk consumption. To raise vitamin D without supplements, a person could increase sun exposure for 10 to 15 minutes a day. Eating more fish can help — a 3.5-ounce serving of wild fresh salmon has 600 to 1,000 I.U.’s of vitamin D — but it would take a quart of milk a day to get the recommended dose of vitamin D.

“What we know is that there are a lot of people who are vitamin D deficient based on estimates from national surveys,” said Dr. Michal L. Melamed, assistant professor of medicine at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in the Bronx. “But we don’t know what happens when the curve shifts to the other end. There probably is a risk to having too much vitamin D in the system.”

Whilst the experts determine what is the normal level of vitamin D, I would try to ensure I have daily exposure to the sun  and take some vitamin D supplement, but not too much, just to be on the safe side.
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the problems are at levels higher than 350-400ng/ml, there is only one case reported of intoxication at 600.000iu daily for 6 months, our doses at 10000 are absolutely healthy plus with our illness it gets down superfast
on gcmaf some people got it to 500ng/ml, no problems.if there is any rise in calcium there are drugs to take it down.as long as vit d25oh and calcium are monitored taking vit d is only safe on us

i just tried to stop vit d for 1 month since gcmaf took it to 59ng/ml, in 1-2 months it got to 48ng/ml despite our summer sun which is like north africa, so i am starting supplements again because gcmaf doesn t work if vit d is less than 40ng/ml

all the studies dont apply to us, only the studies on cronics can apply to us because we dont get vit d from the sun and the doses for cronics are 10000iu daily....with the lower doses fat and cronic (chronic) people cannot get to the normal levels

.there is also a strategy to keep people on low vit d to get sicker, there are movments and websites that showed this thing
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nobodies knows what is the the too much because the sun makes 25000iu daily on healthy people and there are yearly pills/injection of vit d3 at 600000iu because there are no sides, at the moment we do know what is unhealthy which is having vit d 25oh less than 40ng/ml or having that over 150ng/ml but this 150ng/ml is theoric becuase there may be n sides even at 400ng/ml

some links and discussion:

http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/703-highly_cited_vitamin_D_cancer%5B3%5D.pdf

http://www.viddler.com/explore/mercola/videos/140/

http://healthyprotocols.com/2_sun.htm
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i asked hbv researchers if they suggest levels above 80ng/ml, i think they keep vit d to about 100ng/ml on themselves too to keep healthy and for cancer prevention
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Toxic doses
What exactly constitutes a toxic dose of vitamin D has yet to be determined, though it is possible this amount may vary with the individual.

Published cases of toxicity, for which serum levels and dose are known, all involve intake of ≥ 40000 IU (1000 mcg) per day. 1 Two different cases involved intake of over 2,000,000 IU per day - both men survived. 2 3

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/what-is-vitamin-d/vitamin-d-toxicity/
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http://hepatitiscnewdrugs.blogspot.com/2011/08/hepatitis-newslow-vitamin-d-levels.html

I hadn't read this yet (I will) but I want to share it.
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