Hep Tech

[berrinice]

Hi  all     I have read some old posts about Hep Tech   Just wondering if there is current Hep Tech users  and has the medicine stopped liver disease progression?


Cherrs  Berrinice

[jrai2014]

rome70 Thanks for your advice and support, I am already on TDF since 6 months now. My Dr is one of the best in India or researcher will be a better terms www.ilbs.com he is the head of the hospital. But just going on with investigating for now (still have to do HVGP test)

You are right ppc does not cure hbsag, but like in HR post he said it help over all health. So my question is which good supplements I should invest? Quite confused when money do grows on trees! Help appreciated

[Rome70]

I am not a doctor. But I think even though your dna is low. You may need NUCs due to the activity in the liver. Your alt is high and cirrhosis does not go go away. It may mean that the virus replicates actively but immune system  kills infected cells inside the liver so that no much virus gets out to circulation but the liver is being destroyed.  This process can not be stopped by ppc or any supplements. If interferon is not tolerable you can try nucs for a few years that should calm down the liver and together with some good supplements and healthy diet it can revers the cirrhosis. Afterwards adding interferon gives a good chance to clear hbv.
Biopsy may show what goes on inside the liver.
You need a good doctor not the heptech it is wast of time and money.
Just my opinion.

[jrai2014]

Hi Rome70

Yes i like did added Peginf for 12 weeks but the side affect was too much. My Dr. said it was due to other liver problem, which other problem we are unable to come to conclusion.  Also i am not keep so well, losing Fat an Mass. Want to try PPC for over health improvement. if i were fit and healthy i would have continue with PEG for sure . Need to recover health first so any input is appreciate.  

[waschool]

pls I will like to go with peginterferon treatment, wish u will come to my aid by shipping the pegasys, my resent hbsag result is 795.27 iu/ ml an increased from baseline of 747 iu/ ml. thanks

regards: waschool

[Rome70]

These ex-heptech guys are not reliable.
I would not pay them money until I get the product. I received outdated product 500 USD has gone to nothing.
The product itself is not proven to help anybody. It is food suplement not medication.
Cihrosis is proved to be regressed on NUCs.
Your hbsag is 1000iu why you do not try interferon?
If you get rid of hbv cihrosis will slowly go away.

[jrai2014]

Hi Guys I heard that Heptech are now sending new lots. Beside stef anyone bought the new lot. I got a mail as mention below

HepTech anti-Fibrotic protocol. Yes it is true we now have the only high purity 22% schiznadra product on the market.

I do not know  how they do business but just want to try their products. I need to regress my liver. Fibrosis 2/3
Also what's the cost any one can share.

[Rome70]

Liposoms are PC not PPC , poli is missing in the begining, I do not kmow though if it makes any difference.

[stef2011]

just checked their website and liposomal curcumin is available too

[stef2011]

i m not a chemical tech but saying 100% pure is a little strange.

i'd check if livon labs or maxhealthlabs liposomes are the same as PPC

[BeachTiePurist]

I found a new source of PPC.  looking for reviews though.  Have any of you guys tried this one?

http://www.pureformulas.com/phoschol-concentrate-3000-mg-16-oz-by-nutrasal.html?CUSTOMTRACKING=CUSTOMTRACKING&CAWELAID=1276628756&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CLn30vjB4LwCFUcaOgodWgwA_w#reviews

[lila58]

I get my PPC (Essentiale) from Germany when I go there.

[lila58]

I totally agree with you about  Heptech sneaky business,I did order a month ago something,and called them to ask about my order,they said would call right back,but never did.

[stef2011]

in any case if you are on cirrhosis it is best to add also liposomal gsh, vit c, i added that too at the cirrhosis years to keep oxidative stress tests at normal ranges

by the way just got a news yesterday about nagalase testing available in a public hospital close to health ministry in italy and the oxidative stress tests available at the synlabs network....these tests are coming out from research to all patients, at least in europe

[Rome70]

Ppc should not be a problem even with 2009, the other bottles get oxidized with the time. The promblem with heptech is their sneaky business practices one day you will pay them money and get either nothing or some expired stuff that is whattheydid to me twice.

How do you know that PPC works for you? I was looking for the usefulness of the ppc and only found some old researches.

I am switching to LivOn labs for redox and gsh the ingredients are more or less the same, but  tney have superior lyposomial delivery system that gives almost 100% absorbtion.  Also the service that livon provides is outstanding, I buy from a european distributor and very happy with them. All livOn labs supplements contain PC.

Also I was taking heptech for more than 6 months (not full protocol though but about 1/2) and I did not experience any improvement in the liver, in fact by ultrasound it became 1 cm bigger and fibroscan changed from 4.3 to 4.4. Can not tell that it is because of heptech but still it is not what was expected.

[stef2011]

liposomal products with resveratrol, curcumin, vitamin c and glutathione have some components of heptech but heptech has much more ingredients.

of course it would be best to get new stocks from 2012 on

[stef2011]

http://www.fishoilsafety.com/

http://www.consumerlab.com/answers/Is+fish+oil+safe+Is+it+contaminated+with+mercury+and+PCBs/fish-oil_contamination/

http://www.fishoilsafety.com/?page_id=18

from this website
WHAT’S THE PURPOSE OF BRINGING THIS LAWSUIT?
What are you after?
What we want is for this entire industry to get serious about keeping PCBs out of fish oil supplements. We’ve shown the problem, and the law says it is the industry’s responsibility to solve it, or else start warning their customers. In the meantime, we hope consumers will make smart choices to protect themselves, using the information we already have and the information that will be coming.

[stef2011]

There's plenty of suppliers for fishoil so that's not a worry..

no this is the real dangerous thing much bejond 2009 production dates which just poses a problem of potency
i made a post about fish oils because i found they are contaminated and that puritans and solgar (same maker) dont allow third party testing and publish results.i found they have a trial in US, dont know if i has ended but i email them and they did not publish any data on the contamination of their products, they just state several US institutions (zero trust...on this) certify their products as safe and so on

i found this to check the purity of fish oils and nordic naturals and the italian longlife which is supplied by nordic naturals are the most safe.you can regularly check purity of them and many other brands here:
http://www.ifosprogram.com/consumer-reports.aspx

[BeachTiePurist]

No, I didn't.  I didn't even know they had 2009 dates until I just read this thread yesterday.  I spent a few minutes last night for other PPC suppliers, but it seems like it's not going to be easy.  Heptech's PPC was best I could find.

I haven't been keeping up with hbv news, so I haven't been on this site lately.  heptech and vitD has basically brought me from jaundice, liver pain, dark urine, clay stools, 15kg weight loss, and chronic fatigue back to near normal health.

For people who are healthier, they probably can't tell the difference, but I know alot of us who were in really bad shape really benefited from heptech.  I think I'll have to start looking from other suppliers, but that'll take alot of research time.

The other things I like taking nowadays is maitake and rhodiola rosea.  But I'm not as sure about them beyond my own observations.  I haven't done enough research.

There's plenty of suppliers for fishoil so that's not a worry.

[stef2011]

did you email them for exp date of PPC?

[stef2011]

i don t thin 2009 production date is an issue with lyophilized products at all because i checked other normal vitamins (puritans and longlife) i have at home and they exp after 5years (exp dates around 2016-2017), it could be more since they don t report a production date so i guess they were made in 2013

i think only oils like fish oil are dangerous because very easy to oxidase, infact fish oils i have at home exp in about 3-4years maximum but also on these products i found no production date.so it is important to know PPC durability and i would not take PPC from 2009

[BeachTiePurist]

I wasn't aware the bottles were 2009 but i still believe they worked for me.  Unless there's another place where I can buy PPC, i will keep buying it from them.

[berrinice]

Its a real **** paying full price for something that is old.  I don't know how quickly it looses its potency.  But Hep Tech tell you and discount the price

[berrinice]

Advance Life is part of Hep Tech  so I don't think its a coincidence
its a pity their not very ethical.  You have to wonder about their professional credentials and the Learning Institutions that employ them

[BeachTiePurist]

Where are you guys getting your Polyenylphosphatidylcholine nowadays?