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glutathione?!

Has anyone here tried/taken immunocal/Max gxl for any type of ailments? if so what were your experiences? please share?
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i use glutathione, the liposomal glutathione from livonlabs and the glutathione from heptoboost in the heptech protocol

glutathione is an antioxidant and can decrease damage to the liver but it cant clear any virus.glutathione is not absorbed oraly you can only take it these ways:
liposomal which goes directly into the blood
injection
other substances which can be orally absorbed and turned into glutathione in theliver

liposomal or injection are the best absorbed, but again i'd take it only to lower oxidative stress and making blood tests to see if it is abnormal, since it is quite expensive it makes no sense to ue it if liver has no damage like cirrhosis, if tests to check oxdative stress are not available

of course in case of cirrhosis no need to check oxidative stress is present in all cases of cirrhosis, f3 liver damage for sure

effect on immune system to clear viruses like hbv none
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Thanks Stef


Could you please briefly explain liposomal glutathione and how it would go directly into the blood?
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just google liposomes, in the past they were used for skin creams, so stupid use

liposomes gets thru cells and into cells and can be charged with substances like drugs, vaccines or vitamins and this is a much better use than skin creams

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Also does it help with Candida? I believe I may have come down with it.
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i had candida too, all supplements useless, only gcmaf worked, maf34 probably even more potent

you can start trying home-made bifidus yogurt and see if it helps in 2-3months, i got starters to do it here
kefir.it
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http://kefir.it/acquisti.asp?cat=3

bifidus biostarter is here

probiotics increase immune system, they have shown to prevent aids too keeping gut mucosa intact.immune system is in the gut mainly
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Is candidate prevalent among HBV patient?
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Is candidate prevalent among HBV patients? How does one even get it?
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no it is not
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it is a sign of immune disfunction, usually severely immune suppressed can have candida especially aids patients, thsi is why i told you to check cd counts suppressed immune system is probably your problem
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where can i buy gcmaf?
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gcmaf.eu

but start with bifidus yogurt and kefir and getting vit d to >50ng/ml because gcmaf is 660euro for 2 months, very expensive, and doesn t work on vdr receptors BB/ff

maf314 is 1000euro for 6 months but available only in vienna and germany and you have to travel to doctors to get supply.maf314 is a probiotic
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http://www.marcoruggiero.org/pdf/Oct%2022.pdf

this was started on some cfs patients on agust 2011 so very very early to say potential as a cure to a disease, the little data we have now is that immune system function can be repaired when damaged
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Thanks I appreciate your insight on this! What was your candida regime? I have been doing colonics, but I dont want to over do it since I read that you end up depleting yourself of the good bacteria in your gut
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Thanks I appreciate your insight on this! What was your candida regime? I have been doing colonics, but I dont want to over do it since I read that you end up depleting yourself of the good bacteria in your gut, thereby causing more problems.
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gcmaf+bifidus yogurt got my immune system back to normal.candida is in every person and it is also necessary in the gut in small quantity, it becomes a disease only for immune suppressed

the disease is not candida but broken immune system, antibiotics are useless for candida and will damage your immune system more, it can be cleared it must be only immune controlled and a competent immune system does that perfectly
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How long did it take for you to get rid of the candida? What kind of symptoms were you having?
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i had candida infections since i moved to a city and was forced to eat foods from supermarkets, food that was industrial origin and often frozen.

in my home town some food is fresh directly from our gardens or fields, and all food in general is more biologic and not industrial

these kind of infection used to last months and clear just 1-2 weeks and then back again, the only thing helping was 6-8 billions of Bacillus clausii, a probiotic that boost immune function by balancing gut flora
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after about 12 weeks of gcmaf the infections were very rare, mild and lasting few days

after about 15-20 weeks of gcmaf almost disappered, i can get it only if i suppress immune function by not sleeping/bad sleeping for few days, getting very tired travelling

i am now about 30-34weeks gcmaf, nagalase tests are still pending, my last nagalase result is from 13 weeks of gcmaf therapy and it was decreased from baseline 6.7 (no macrophages activation) to 3.3, more than 50% decrease.

i am now wating to reach a normal level at less than 0.6 and see how my immune function is improved
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Just a quick update on the probiotics - I have started to use the kefir yogurts and so far I have been feeling somewhat better.

Question - The Vitamin D you took to bet your vitamin D levels up, was it the liposome kind or was it the regular ones you buy at the drug store? I'm thinking about getting the liposome as it is said that it absorbs better. Let me know your thoughts.

Also thinking of getting the vitamin E cream.
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both kefir and bifidus yogurt helps imune system/liver

vitamin d is not needed in liposomes, puritans vit d3 5000iu is very cheap and can be bought online.also biotech d3 is a good brand but biotech needs to be taken with food.
biotech has both 5000iu capsule or 50.000iu capsule, of course the 50.000iu is for one capsule per week

glutathione is good in liposomal form or injectable form only.

vitamin e natural is very cheap on puritans website too, just be sure to choose the natural blend of vit E and not the synthetic type
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So I just received my Liposome GSH - started using it 2wice a day in conjuction with Vitamin C. Taking Vita 1000 I/U. Also taking acidophilus probiotics. How long did you take GSH before you started to notice results?
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take 2 gsh for abot one week then go for 1

take 2 of vit c if possible, two bags is close to 20gr of vit c.vit c has an immediate effect rasing all white blood cells at intake between 20-60gr daily

you should feel better within a couple of weeks if problems were due to low immune system/oxidative stress
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Thanks Stef - Should the Vit C be liposome as well? I have been taking 1000 i/u per day with the GSH. I noticed I felt more energy in the past few days and I have only been on it since Friday. Or is this the placebo effect taking place ;)? I still have the skin bumps....do you think they will go away soon. - Also just noticed that my tongue has that white stuff they call thrush - its not that bad but its just slightly white.
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