ANGER AND RIBA

[Rockerforlife]

I cant believe what just happened,i was carrying a air cond on a shopping cart and just etering my building and a maintence cleaner said to me you cant enter the builiding with the shoopig cart and i right away lost it...i rasied my voice and used the F word and was just being really upset,..he metioned after i lost it it was a fire regulation code thing...i am disgusted wiyh myself now...i went back and apologizes to himw and explained i was streesed from my job loss but didnt mention i was on TX of course...what just happen scared me...i will admit im naturally a hot head sometimes...but this just happened so fast...it was like a aswtch went off in my brain...my question is

is there anything to take for this?...i mean like in pill form...maybe a mild valium...think ill call my doc today and ask some questions...i feel like a jerk now

[mikesimon]

I like Ativan for situational anxiety. It is generally believed that the interferon and not the ribavirin is responsible for short tempered outbursts and/or sudden rage or anger but the alliteration in "Riba Rage" seems to propagate this misconception the ribavirin is primarily responsible. This point has been made here countless times but the myth continues. Regardless I like Ativan though many prefer a longer acting drug. At times I would just feel myself getting on edge and take an Ativan and I really never even felt it - like we usually feel this type of drug - but I was no longer on edge. I was at ease again.
It worked for me anyway.
Mike

[Rockerforlife]

Thanx...i am now doing some research on anger manegment,its the first time ive ever done this...very interesting subject,expressing anger can even be addictive..i have treid a script for ativan a few weeks ago and it did calw me down from my worry...im not a big fan of taking any pharma drugs,but maybe thios time i will try a mild valium...i found the tivan just improved my sleep...i hate when i explode like that...i feel so bad after...i did have a rough child hood..im thinkn this is part of my problem as both my parents were weekend drinkers and they didi fight constantly...not shifting the blame on them mind you...but ill tell...i have been tru alot in this life..

[nygirl7]

Sorry Rocker.....I think everybody going through treatment has been through one of those episodes with someone, we all know what that feels like both during and after when you just wanna crawl in a hole and hide.  You know the story where I yelled at my chronically ill daughter with COPD and told her to stop breathing? It's true. it's embarrassing but if I could yell at my kid for breathing to loud when that function takes more energy than anything else for her and she's almost died three times as a result - then yelling at a maintenance worker.......yup easy to happen.

You ain't alone on this one.  Ribarage Interferon Madness whatever it really is - it will soon be over when you finish and are svr so hang in there.

[JennyPenny]

I know just how you feel. That anger just bursts through sometimes. I remember when my daughter was on the maternity ward giving birth to our 4th grandchild. Grandparents were not allowed in the labor rooms. I asked a nursse to tell my son-in-law that we were there and to please come out for a minute and let us know she was alright. I sat down in the only waiting room for maternity which was shared with the NICU(neo-intesive care). After 20 minutes I went back and asked the nurse to go to my daughter's room and ask my son-in-law to come out for just a second. The nurse refused to give me any information due to hippa rules. She said she would do that. Again no one came out. I was really getting scared and angry. So I picked up my cell phone and tried to call the hospital just as a NICU nurse came out and yelled at me for using my phone by NICU which was not allowed. I went off on her so bad that my husband turned bright red. I used words I didn't even jknow that I new.

Anyway I told the story to my hep doc who after laughing cause it was so out of character for me, he said he would switch me from Paxil to Effexor and I couldn'tr believe how well that worked for me.

So, I hope you find something that works for you and I hope you have a great Memorial Day weekend.

[Rockerforlife]

Im leaning you cant elimate anger.it will always "live" in us,we just have to manage it in a more suitable way...there will always be idiots a a-holes in this life...but this morning this poor guy was just doing his job...he wasnt being rude at all to me..i just thoght he was being a jerk tho by saying i could not use the shopping card...before we could,but they changed the rules in my complex...i admit tho...it still gives me no right to lose it...im doing shot 29 of 36/48 tonite...im getting close to ending this madness

[jdwithhcv]

Take an ativan (just 1) and then forgive yourself!  Next time you will do better.  As you say, you are getting close to the end.

Happy memorial day to you.

jd

[Rockerforlife]

We celebrated Victoria Day just this past weekend....we are still ruled under the UK.

[apache1]

Sometimes there is not a pill for everything...

This is what works/worked for me.
When ever I felt the onset of an anger burst, immediately would stop or at least slow way down what ever I was doing, take a deep breath or 2 and repeat to myself,
'a good man is slow to anger'... 'a good man is slow to anger'...'a good man is slow to anger'...'a good man is slow to anger'..'a good man is slow to anger'
I keep repeating this to myself and usually as fast as the anger started it declines.
Soon  what ticked me off in the first place doesn't seem so bad now.

This may or may not work for you Rocker.
The Key is, you must find a coping mechanism for your anger. Preferably without added drugs and Before you do something you regret and cant take back.

apache

[portann]

I'd get him a little gift and apologize again. Your doorman is very influential and getting on his bad side is not a good idea. I'd even mention that you're treating a health problem with medications that are known to put you on edge.

Treating anger management issues long-term is an excellent idea but don't stress over it now. Just keep thinking how much closer you're getting to the end of tx and then you can fix the other stuff.

I don't have anger management issues but you would never have known it during tx. I had interferon insanity often enough that I turned off the ringer on our home phone to choose when to talk to people. l started this after one call I picked up two months ago. I haven't talked to that person since - oh, only my brother.

Flowers are cheap in the grocery store these days. Pick up some for the doorman to give to his wife, so he doesn't take out his frustration with you on her.

[thegypsy9164]

Yep, _ _it happens.  You are right about it is always there in some of us.  The meds just help bring it out at times.  What I've been doing is praying to God to help me to not be "so hard."  I come from a pretty rough background like a lot of us.  As a result, I don't trust and I tend to be always ready to fight or die (PTSD ****).  I've found myself getting very hardened while on treatment.  It keeps me cut off from other's, which is protective on my part but sorely maladaptive.  Just keep reminding yourself not to be so hard.  Practive it all of the time and you'll get some peace.
I'm not in agreement with taking meds for everything.  Sometimes we just need to buck up and get our head/heart right.
Joey

[Rockerforlife]

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[Rockerforlife]

Flowers are cheap in the grocery store these days. Pick up some for the doorman to give to his wife, so he doesn't take out his frustration with you on her


Excellent advice....and she was there at the outburst too.

[winner727]

yes ,it happens to me .Ive been on tx 13 weeks ,and Im still ,DAILY having to be aware of ,how short tempered I am .  

[charm27]

I had the anger issue so so bad. I cant even express how bad it was. Im a very calm mild mannered person and I absolutely turned into a crazy short fused person/
I disliked myself so much.

Felt good to be calm again after tx ended!
I took Celexa 20mg a day ..it helped so some degree.

[annieCinMD]

My most recent episode was at the repairman who was to fix my central air conditioning unit the other day. They told me he would call after noon. I had my Accounting final at 6pm which had been a huge source of stress for me. He calls at like 5:15 pm while I'm driving to school. I said something to the effect of "I was expecting you to call sometime during the business day." His response was something like "it is part of MY business day."  I was actually annoyed at my step kid who was supposed to be home shortly after noon to wait for him. I ended up leaving work around 1:30 and she wasn't there. She called later around 4:30 and said she was stuck in traffic coming back from the mall. I'm thinking, "what happened to being at the house as close to noon as possible?". Well, the repairman got the heat. It wasn't even that bad, no f bombs, but I felt bad at taking my stress over the final and my kid out on someone else. I was going to tell you, Rocker to take your Ativan. I've been doing my Xanax at night only to try to keep it from building up in my system, and getting me addicted. It's the weakest dose, prescribed to take twice a day. So far, so good. Taking it at night helps me sleep, too.

[catqueenjune]

Hi,  I just finished reading all the posts about the anger issue and realized I didn't have that.  I had depression big time but not anger.  I will not take anti-depressants because of the side effects I get from them.  I did take xanax for anxiety and to help  me sleep.  It is nowhere near as addictive as valium is.  I still take it now and then and use it to help me get to sleep unless I've had a really active day and am physically tired.  If xanax, it's easier to spell than alprazolam the generic, does not appeal to you there are herbs too.  Like catnip, valerian, chamomile and if I'm not mistaken you weren't advised against herbs right? So that's an option.  Of course, there's nothing like the apology and sincere regret you expressed to your doorman and a gift is a thoughtful touch.  I am very open about having been in tx for hepc, I guess because I feel it's from contact with my late husband rather than from drug use, altho I did do some of that (very little) in the early 80s, but since I had no liver damage etc and I did share his toothbrush and cared for him without gloves at the end it made more sense that it was from blood contact with him.  Either way I believe the public is coming to be more compassionate about this illness than it used to be.  If you've always been a hot head anger management will be a good thing whether you're on treatment or not! LOL  I wish the best for you and hope you can be happy.  June

[cindyh113]

My list is too long and I do get regretful and beat myself up afterward. But I do go to the person and appologize. We are suppose to have emotions. And anger is one of them. You did the right thing by appologizing, stop beating yourself up. Because you meant it. Pills can help take the edge off and I do use them.
On the treatment I have spoke out and said things to people I wouldn't have before. Some needed to be said. Then on the other hand there is the road rage incident! I started to buy a bumper sticker which said "Don't **** me off I'm on drugs".
My first month off treatment and the drugs coming out of my system, I let a person who needed it have it. I say, "I came off swinging and hit the ground running".

[annieCinMD]

I have heard that depression is actually anger directed inward. I wonder if anyone else has heard this or if it is my foggy brain telling me lies! Good to know Xanax is less addictive than Valium. They are all part of that benzo family, and those are very nasty indeed to come off if you do get a tolerance.

[Rockerforlife]

Just dropped of some flowers to the main office for them to pick up...im glad i didi this,makes me feel like a human being again

[FlGuy]

Since you were carrying an air conditioner I'm guessing the "F" word was Freon? Take it easy on yourself.  If you have no regrets, you have no conscience. But, if you know that you can be tipped over an edge, you have the responsibility to rein yourself in.

[Rain6866]

What I call my xanaxs are CHILL PILLS!

Dont let it get to you. I know you feel bad about it but like portann said a small gift and another apology may do the trick. Ive been finding myself quiet excitable lately and I am thinking they need to up my dosage of AD's.

Good luck and hang in there.

[DragonSlayer45]

Rocker,

As Mike mentioned earlier, it is the interferon not the riba. There is a lot of research on this. I also had major issues that came up. i went from fairly easy going to snapping on a cop and a particularly large fellow on another occasion. I actually wanted them to engage me. I was raging bad, kind of scary. I guess I thought beating their fists up with my face was a good idea. Luckily for me they did not oblige me. Both times totally out of character for me. If you have a short fuse to begin with it may get shorter. This can become a serious issue for some. Talk to your doctor and tell him or her what is going on. If they are knowledgeable about HCV they will take appropriate actions.

I am not sure that Vallium is more addictive then Xanax. They are all part of the Benzo family and are highly addictive. They use valium to help wean people off Xanax. Xanax has a shorter half life and the levels drop faster in blood causing worse withdrawl. Valium has a longer half life and the drop is not so sudden and can control the weaning process better. At least that is how I understand it. Like I said they are all addicitve. Just be aware so you are not blindsided.

The most important thing is you stay the course on treatment. If you and your doctor think the interferon is causing show stopper problems then I would use them. Coming off benzo's is much better than HCV and the damage it can cause.

Keep in mind I am anti drug. I refused to take AD's and benzo's when my doctor told me I needed them. It got to the point where I had to take them. I was not happy about it. They helped get me through and to stay the course. I am now done and UND. I am weaning off and have no problems.

Good luck.

[lalapple]

Rocker you are so sweet for apologizing and dropping off flowers.  i'm a natural hot head myself, but i always seem to keep stuff inside me and let them burn slowly, when i'm frustrated or angry, i'm usually silent unless i feel like i have to scream.  yes i realize how contradictory that sounds LOL

i'm sure they'll understand, we're all humans and people have bad days.  even though very few people can actually understand what treating people such as us can feel at times, i still believe we all have a little compassion in us to make it through.

[catqueenjune]

The reason I said valium was more addictive is that I was on it a LONG time ago and found myself waking up and looking for it which was when I quit it.  I don't notice the xanax really much either way so I feel it's not so addictive.  I did use oxycontin during tx since I was in a great deal of pain and weaned off that onto Darvon, which I hear is like strong aspirin and am moving more toward natural arthritis treatments but still want to be as active as possible which the darvon allows.  I was also told by my MD that the valium was more addictive.  Hey we are all individuals and react to things differently so whatever gets us through the night, the tx and life is good.  Anti abuse is good.  The ADs gave me such sides I hated them.  And yes depression is anger turned inward or as my late husband used to say, anger is a finger on the hand of depression.  Guess I was pretty angry!!  Just turned it inward....alot.  Not now tho!!!  Take care all and hug your dog, watch funny movies or talk to friends and family.  Love to all.

[Rockerforlife]

Im holding off getiing the script for the pills...like i said. before i hate taking pharma drugs...this is the first time ive raised my voice to someone for quite sometime so i think im doing not too bad ...if it happens again i may get something...i was reading a post by someone here they felt like killing people...LOL...my God...if i ever felt like that i would see a pro for sure

[Isobella]

A timely post for me, for sure.  I've had to run away from home this week.  My fuse is a little short (ok, alot short) this week and I just think it's best all around for me to be removed from my loved ones for a bit.  

The good thing is now we miss each other and I can't wait to go home for the weekend.  Hopefully I won't bite anyone's head off.  

These drugs do a number on us for sure.  Nice touch getting the guy flowers. Hang in there.  

At week 43.....it can't be over soon enoug for me.  Hat's off and bowing down to extenders and re-tx'ers.....y'all are some kinda tough.

[Rockerforlife]

His wife was there at the time when i got mad, so i actually got the flowers for them both...it woulda lookeda a  lttle strange gettn flowers just for the guy...lol..i havnt gotten flowers for anyone in a while...they were  so surprising beautiful  i wanted them...you woild belive the looks i was gettin in the store buying the flowers...everyone asking me...who was the lucky woman?

[Rockerforlife]

I also think its just not the drugs themselves that causs the anger...it may also be just the whole idea of the pain and suffering we have to go tru,and we just blow off steam...if we actually think of what we are going tru with this C..its a tough battle..we are fighting for our very lves....this is some serious stuff

[franke566]

You see thats why I went to a shrink-I started losing my temper and then I'd feel bad about it-depressed.  So I told my Doctor and he hooked me up with a drug peddling Psychiatrist and then after he was done with me he handed me over to a Psychologist who is anti drugs (pharmaceutical) pro pot, and is working with me and has been my life saver.  Even taught me to play the Indian flute.  He counsels six of us-I am his problem child.  Mostly he is a shoulder and steers me to Eastern philosphies.  I find the Dhammapada helpful.  I am still working on We are what we think, all that we are arises with our thoughts, with our thoughts we make the world.  Xanax helps my anxiety attacks and the herb is relaxing and I can't find very many  negative reviews from any major study on it being harmful other than very slight toxicity to liver and lungs but I find the trade off to hitting someone over the head with my anger or frustrations by words or deeds worth it. franke566-P.S. thank you for yesterdays note.  

[winner727]

yes ,I have my medical maryjane card ,in  RI .my wife is my care taker & grower !  absolutly the best all around sx ,detroyer .  and I eat like a pig .!  but Its not for everyone .        good luck . ps arent you into natural remedys ?    seed  , water , and dirt .  no pharma company control .           bob

[franke566]

I posted to Rocker about the Ganja.  A water pipe helps lessen the toxins- I found out
seeds, water, dirt and sun does Mary well.  I mixed in some tomato plants in my garden this year and have to have my kid harvest for me-seems the tomato plants give off a night-shade gas that breaks me out in hives but the buds are fat and I notice no effect other than the one I like. Frank

[Rockerforlife]

I cant smoke pot unless im in a good mood to begin with...if i had a toke now...anxiety would hit me...the stuff just intensifies my moods....only way ill toke agin is when this TX is all over and odne with and i get a another decent job again

[franke566]

Yes, I had the same issue-got so paranoid I could hear my heart beating so I had to go for a long out of body walk-I wanted a beer to take the edge off...fought that and finally came down-aqnyway since I've been on the Xanax I don't have that problem anymore.  I am not suggesting anyone do what I'm doing!  Just talking about what gets me thru the days and nights.  Happy weekend Rocker. Frank

[Rockerforlife]

Thanx...some people i know who smoke herb...it acts like a sedative to them...relaxes them like valium...im the opposite...i bounce of the walls....i wont lie...when i was doing the devils candy back in the it actually relaxed me...my system is backwards

[newleaf09]

The antidepressants alleviate anger, as well.  I take a half dose of Lexapro (I was so ungodly mean without it) which I've had to up to a full dose (10 mg) this week because I am getting so anxious about the possibility of stopping treatment at 7 mos.  Have to wait till June 1 to find out and I'm finding the wait unbearable.  I have wished that there was some kind of anger management thing in my town but am stuck with controlling it with drugs instead.  I could not maintain control without it.

[R Glass]

When I was on tx, my project manager called and said he was sending a couple of laborers to my jobsite to clean. He was trying to do me a favor but I took as he was insinuating my jobsite was a mess. I jumped down his throat. After I calmed down, I called and apologized.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSnBApQH9WE

[Rockerforlife]

I wish i knew all this before i started TX...i guess i did know,but i just thiught it would not happen to me...I HIGHLY SUGGEST to tell your employer you will be on meds and maybe inform them you will be on meds that may cause emotional reactions..if i was up front about my TX from the beginning i could have gone on sick leave and short or long term disabilty..i was totally insured...but i just worked everyday because i could....i was afraid to tell them i was on meds because it looked bad at the time,,,if i was up front they cant fire you then...which is what they did...i didnt inform HR i was seeing a doc and on meds....i now think they weasled me out by harrassing me and stuff...my super knew i was seeing a doc evrery 4 weeks....i asked if he wanted a note and he said it was ok...no need...now im thinkn they knoew if i had a note they would have a hard time dumping me....I WAS WRONGFULLY DISMISSED

[merryBe]

so in other words you were truckin" with your cool and then somebody said you can bring that cool in here and so you blew your cool??

totally undestandable...and as the doctor will say "take a CHILL pill" pardon the pun.

I would not have made it through treatment without Ativan,(lorezepam) it's the safest for the liver and I had such jitters without it even answering the front door was not an option.
And you are right, it feels like you snap...but it's just that your brain and body are having their peaceful chemicals destroyed by the tx.. I took point zero five  ( .05) with each dose of Riba and it smoothed out for the most part, but had to add 15 mg. of Remeron at night to get a total grip.

the ativan is hard to get off of after tx, as I'm finding out now, but it can be done, and for many during tx NOT taking these meds is NOT an option.
One lady in here a while back threatened someone with homocide in the ER, and is now dealing with the reprocussion of that SNAP...so this can be a very serious matter.

feel better soon I hope.
mb

[Rockerforlife]

You wanna hear something...my study nurse told me some stories of patients she treated in the past and the voilence of some patients...it was so bad the police had to come for this one guy...he threaten to hurt them...these drugs are dangerous...in the end she cured him and he poured out his heart later....im keeping on my toes from now on....getting mad looks bad

[merryBe]

yup I believe it....and if you read up on the rates of suicidal ideation they are staggering.

it was a constant companion those thoughts until I got on the right med...and those are thought I hadn't entertained since adolesence, so this tx really does a number on folks mentally.

Frankly I think it's sinful that they don't premedicate people considering this tx is an equal opportunity Mash ans slasher of normal brain funtion. For that matter, why do we have to be gasping for air like fish on the river bank before they give us procrit.
(my new fantasy is every insurance gatekeeper and every doc prescribing chemo should have to go through it...grin... that would sure change the way things are done fast.)
mb

[Rockerforlife]

And to make matters worse,stress ia at high levels all over the globe right now...people who are let go from their jobs and one ones worried about losing the jobs that have..it was so bad at my last job the 2 supers were seeing shrinks

[Rockerforlife]

I never really thought about suicide...but my thoughts on death are this:

death is the easy part...the hard part is the actual dying proceess and knowing how long you have left and dying in pain and suffering...the problem is getting to the other side without any hassles...we all end up on the other side no matter what we do ...i dod have faith tho that there is something waiting for us all afetr we go into the next dimension..

too deep?

[franke566]

I've fantasized about it only to remind myself there is always that final option...if it gets too bad.  But what is too bad?  No one knows until they reach that final straw.  I believe there is something but I don't know what.  Intelligent design, or God?  Can something come from nothing?  I read  the works of Charles Bukowski and St. Augustine and both of those guys were on two different ends of the life spectrum but somehow they both make the same argument:  It didn't just happen it was caused, and there has to be some reason behind that.

[YuK]

I'm taking lexapro to help the anger and I still get a little agitated on the weekends after my shot on Friday night.  I'm one of these people that dislike uncomfortable situations.  But, sometimes I think I have always held back a little too much and it doesn't hurt to say what I mean - on occasion.

The flowers were good advice, and it will help you feel better as well.

[cindyh113]

I believe you are right to think there is more to this life and someone who created it. I believe the Bible. As a christian you come to realized how helpless you are to always do the right thing. Which is the whole purpose of Jesus Christ. And this makes this whole life worth living for me even when I don't feel good.
I have grown up with a lot of anger. And have surpressed more than I should have. Jesus did toss a few tables. I just love that! The book says, "Be angry but do not sin". Well, thats hard. I am just 2mo. + out of tx and I had decided I would not just walk away from things just because I did not want a confrontation. Well, last night I got my opportunity. My truck was towed at an event. It was unjust. I was not blocking anyone, or causing property damage. They towed it across the street and wanted $140.00 cash and it would go up at 1am to $230.00 if I didn't pay for it. There were police there with the towing companies to keep the peace. Well, I knew right off the bat that I may go to jail! I was Peed Off and I wasn't holding back. They had a racket going on and I knew it and they did too! Besides I had no money and wouldn't have given it to them if I did. And it made me so angry thinking about the other people they had done this to that I started crying. Not in front of them! The officer ask my friends to take me off so I would calm down. I told them it was obvious this was a racket, ask the police how many they had done this to, my friend wanted to know if they would sleep good, and I called them thugs. To let them know I had no money I showed them a baggy with change, ask if they would take a bad check or an over the limit credit card. Lets just say I wasn't nice. The end result was they quietly let me leave. I turned to my friends and ask who prayed because I sure didn't! One spoke up and said she did. I would have gone to jail on principal and I'm not done with them yet. I used a few colorful words, not very christian like, but when you can't find the right words, use what you've got. I don't feel bad today, except for those who weren't so fortunate.
So, hang on to that new found energy and go defend the world! And appologize when your wrong.

[Rockerforlife]

Scams are all over the newspapers here in canada...front page everyday some politition in a scandal...even one of our prime ministers got got with tax evasion....cops are scamming...even a judge up here was on the take....its bad....and this is just a tip of the iceberg....its hard not too get mad when im being ripped off by the people taht are spose to protect you...CORRUPTION IS EVERYWHERE

[FlGuy]

But, was your truck parked legally?

[Ruthie703]

I believe it's OK to get angry.  I do, but I try to keep a lid on it.  I take benzo's. I try to
keep a lid on those also.  They are all addictive plus harmful to your liver mostly be-
cause they are oil soluble.  Water soluble drugs are less harmful because your liver can process them easier.  I take pieces of zanax to handle anxiety.  When I am anxious I find I get angry more often/ fight or flight kicks in.  I find I usually don't need
a whole pill and it keeps me from getting too addicted.  Withdrawal from benzo's can
be difficult to say the least.  A freind told me everything in moderation even moderation.  Hope that makes sense to someone. Hang in there.
SINCERELY RUTHIE

[Bill1028]

For years I thought it was something that I said or did.  This explains it, I now believe that my wife has been taking interferon behind my back.

[GoofyDad]

Could be someone prayed up a loading zone?

[FlGuy]

Or, the old trash can over a fire hydrant trick

[cindyh113]

Whats the over the trash can thing? Ohhh! No. I parked in a lot owned by a large insurance company. We have a large music festival here every year and they have for years allowed us to park in their lots. I was in the main lot. They had put up a bar across a turn in the parking lot. It looks like they have deliberately tried to make new parking the only thing needed was white lines. I went by there yesterday and one of their employees had parked there. There were already 3 other cars parked there and we were not blocking anyone and you could get around easy. They should put up a sign if they do not want anyone to park there. The sign going in to the lot says, Free Parking.
I found out that my assumptions are correct. There is a fellow working for the insurance company who gets a kick back. We're pretty sure. At any rate the cops and the wrecker people had to have sat and watched us park, then came and hauled us off. Why did the cop not do their duty if we could not park there? In a down economy, why would you do that to someone? $140.00 to the other side of the road! And up to 230.00 if not paid by 1am. I told them they could keep it! I didn't have the money. Thats when the bargaining began. I literally did not have the money and I wasn't going to borrow it. My truck isn't worth $230.00. Ha, ha, ha! Theres something to be said for being poor! Give it all to the insurance company! Not that one thank God! Really!
I'm going over this evening and put up my own sign, tow zone. See if that puts a damper on their racket.

[Rockerforlife]

This planet is a racket...like Jim Morrison said...before this sh.it house goes up in flames.im gonna have fun...i cant believe the newspapers again today...more politions in scandels   ripping off the taxpayers....sorry if i sound so negative....but this world is more depressing that the freaking TX

[Rockerforlife]

LOOKS LIKE  the higher up  class are doing the stealing too me....they already have 6 figure salarys and perks,pensions....but they still steal...GREEDY  sick peolpe

[FlGuy]

The trash can over the fire hydrant is a gimmick that goes back many years and cuts two ways, usually in big cities.  On one hand, someone is driving around looking for a parking space but only finds a fire zone along a curb next to a fire hydrant. The parking wannabe pulls into the spot and pulls a trash can out of the back of the car and puts it over the hydrant, disguising the fire hydrant as a legal parking space.  On the other hand police have been know to cover a hydrant with a trash can.  When an unsuspecting driver thinks he's found a prize parking place, he pulls in.  A little later the trash can is removed revealing....a parking violation.  Then came painted curbs.  

[Rockerforlife]

The trash can scam...new on me...whats next...fake fire hydrants?...we got fake cops..fake tow trucks tht steal  ATM bank machines...the pl;anet has gone mad....and getting worse.North Korea is actually asking the USA  for  a nuke war..they are egging on...lets go...i wonder who feeds Korea the arms?

[cindyh113]

Sounds like the whole world is using the Trash Can over the Hydrant idea! Bunch of jerks. Good to know some aren't. Now thats bright out look. Jim Morrison gooood music! I'm hooked on Glitter Rock after all these years of not. And the faster the better. Sweet videos on YouTube. Think the tx did that to me!

[GoofyDad]

Steven King had a great character named Trash Can Man, but I digress.

PETA just came out against the trashcan trick because urban dogs have been suffering from bladder problems. Mandona's going to do a poster wearing a dual-trashcan bra.