Colloidal Silver

[tonerman]

Has anyone tried this to help with their Hepititis C
I an getting ready to start the interfrgen treatment one shot a day for 12 weeks then down to 3 a week with coapegen>
Not to sure of some of this spelling but hopfully you get the Idea.

But mainly looking to see if anyone has tried the Colloidal Silver and if so what was their results.

Thank you
Gary

[friole]

Hey John, I think you are talking about my totally unacademic post about the 80% clear.

First, all I have been doing is writing the 12 week results on a little scrap of paper.  I don't know all the genotypes.  I went back and looked at that little scrap, and it was:

Clear - 9
Not Clear - 4

That is 64% clear, not 80% as I stated.

Of the not clear, I had 40 IU and another had 188 IU, one had 3300 IU and one had a 1.96 log drop

friole

[Shanaenae]

so actually, it was my MD that told me to go to the naturopathic doctor. I am instructed to get her opinion on possible herbs and homeopathic medicines and then report back to my doctor with what she recommended. Sounds like most of you are in fairly large cities, i see mention of doctors, like all of us are supposed to know who these people are!! Everyone here has to realize that i live in a podunk town, pop 5,500 deep in the heart of the Rocky Mountains in Colorado, we don't even have a heptologist or gastroenterologist within 150 miles. I had to drive 120 miles just to get my liver biopsy.
So with that said, i probably don't have all the big name doctors or even specialized doctors to turn to, which is one of the main reasons i have been doing so much research on my own. I am not saying that my donctor doesn't know anything, she is the best in town, and she has also treated quite a few people with combo interferon therapy in my town that all have had Hep C and she has had 100% of them become at nondetectable levels.

[jmjm530]

Please take this in the nicest way because you know I've always respected the  opinions and intelligence you've brought to MH from almost the moment you arrived here.

I'd appreciate it if you don't try and characterize my opinions on things, especially regarding herbs and vitamins. Let my words stand for themselves --  or if you agree/disagree with with something specific, then please keep it to that.

From some of your past posts, I know you've been very sensitive when people have done the same with your thoughts, so hopefully you understand where I'm coming from.

I believe all I said about herbs and vitamins yesterday was you should run everything by your doctor and some things you can take off treatment may be controversial on treatment.

All the best.

-- Jim

[cuteus]

all you have to do nowadays is check all the literature tying chronic hep c to things like neuropathy, cognitive dysfunction, diabetes, thyroid problems, etc., and reason that most of us with long term infection have to be getting some "action" in those organs even if we don't feel anything or is too mild to consciously thing about it.
It seems some folks might be experiencing the effects of the immune system's reaction more than others.  How many times we feel a little twitch here and there only to chuck it off because it was so subtle? Bring on the IFN and riba and these things might flare up big time and bring them to the surface, but it started with hep c. It might not explain all of the post tx complains, but maybe most.  The only way to find out is if ALL that were going to tx, got a complete neurological, autoimmune, cardiac, endocrinology, vision consult prior to tx to identify the anti thyroid antibodies, for example.  Who really does that?
Hep C tx with IFN has been out since the late 80's early (90's, I would say that over 15 yrs of using them will provide some long term data, from at least IFN.  Plus the yrs that they have been using them for AIDS. No studies have shown significant LT damage as of yet, none that I have seen.  I encourage you to web search any and all hep c related topics, especially long term effects from IFN.
talking in message boards is not the best way, since a small percentage with leftov er signs are still frequenting for support.
Consider also that when anemia sets in, and many folks if not most, are going to experience it, your body's usual supply of oxygen has been compromised, your brain is not getting its 25% share on a regular basis, and we all know how important that organ is, I for one, do not need a study to tell me that brain hypoxia could be dangerous, but there are studies out there if you have the energy to read.
Think now about hypoxia to all the other major organs and tissue, just go and read on the term and the dangers of the condition, and you will see how anemia could possibly cause a lot of lasting conditions. I don't need a study to tell me. Just research anemia thoroughly, insist on the Procrit if your insurance covers it.
That way you can rule out anemia as the reason for lasting effects, if you have any.
I treated for 72+ wks and have no lasting effects, and I do not have the healthiest eating habits.

When you are young, according to some articles, your SVR shot could be about the same as a g2 or 3.  And females do better than males, it seems. Just read that too,
in hep c infection and tx.
best to you all

[jmjm530]

I'm also concerned that treatment induced long-term anemia can cause hypoxia to many major organs including the brain.

The problem with Procrit is that in many cases Procrit doesn't prevent anemia, it simply *reduces* anemia by boosting hemoglobin (Hgb) s a couple of points so we can function a little better.

I've been on 40,000 -- 60,000 units of Procrit a week from week 2 of treatment. Still, I've been anemic for over half the time and my guess is I'm doing better than most.

To simplify, anemia (at least with men) starts when Hgb falls below 13.2. How many of us on treatment -- Procrit or not -- have Hgb lower than that? If so, then you're anemic.

-- Jim

[cuteus]

it is troubling that it does not work for some people as well as it does others, any ideas what the percentage of "non responders" is?  there should be something factual, since there are so many on it from dialysis. What a predicament! I wonder if switching brands of erythropoetin wil make a difference?