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anyone drinking Detox Tea ?
hey just acquestion, does anyone drink a Detox tea and do you like it? also has anyone heard of collidal silver? Studies say it is good to help rid the Hep. C ? Or how about drinking Komucha tea? Wow I know all these questions. You know I'm a newbie lol
Debbie
Debbie
I'm sorry that I didn't include the link. www.silvermedicine.org Explore the safety link at the top. The site addresses argyria.
… I do not know how to spell. English as second language :)
Here is another one ...could be related to your Kombucha mould (History of antibiotics):
http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/doc_WTX026108.html
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The discovery of an antibacterial factor in the exudates of the Penicillium mould by Alexander Fleming at St Mary's Hospital in 1928 was therefore not totally unexpected. Not was it medically revolutionary. At first, it seemed impossible to extract the active compound intact from the yellow liquid produced by the mould, but two new developments in the late 1930s engendered more enthusiasm for the antibiotic approach to medicine. The sulfonamide drugs offered cures for a wide range of bacterial infections and the Rockefeller Institute scientist Rene Dubos managed to extract a powerful antibiotic that he called tyrothricine from a soil mould, and later refined this to gramicidine and tyrocidine (although these could not be used internally).
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Here is another one ...could be related to your Kombucha mould (History of antibiotics):
http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/doc_WTX026108.html
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The discovery of an antibacterial factor in the exudates of the Penicillium mould by Alexander Fleming at St Mary's Hospital in 1928 was therefore not totally unexpected. Not was it medically revolutionary. At first, it seemed impossible to extract the active compound intact from the yellow liquid produced by the mould, but two new developments in the late 1930s engendered more enthusiasm for the antibiotic approach to medicine. The sulfonamide drugs offered cures for a wide range of bacterial infections and the Rockefeller Institute scientist Rene Dubos managed to extract a powerful antibiotic that he called tyrothricine from a soil mould, and later refined this to gramicidine and tyrocidine (although these could not be used internally).
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...nothing to do with electricity here.
I am very surprised that 3rd year medical school does not explain simple staff…
I do not have to trust me or anybody on this forum you just have to do precise research.
colloidal silver link:
http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/
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What are the risks of using these products?
Animal studies have shown that silver builds up in the tissues of the body. In humans, buildup of silver from colloidal silver can lead to a side effect called argyria. It causes a bluish-gray discoloration of the skin, other organs, deep tissues, nails, and gums. Argyria cannot be treated or reversed, and it is permanent. While it is not known how argyria occurs, it is thought that silver combines with protein, forming complexes that deposit in the skin and are processed by sunlight (as in traditional photography).6,7 Other side effects from using colloidal silver products may include neurologic problems (such as seizures), kidney damage, stomach distress, headaches, fatigue, and skin irritation. Colloidal silver may interfere with the body's absorption of the following drugs: penacillamine, quinolones, tetracyclines, and thyroxine.5
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I am very surprised that 3rd year medical school does not explain simple staff…
I do not have to trust me or anybody on this forum you just have to do precise research.
colloidal silver link:
http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/
"
What are the risks of using these products?
Animal studies have shown that silver builds up in the tissues of the body. In humans, buildup of silver from colloidal silver can lead to a side effect called argyria. It causes a bluish-gray discoloration of the skin, other organs, deep tissues, nails, and gums. Argyria cannot be treated or reversed, and it is permanent. While it is not known how argyria occurs, it is thought that silver combines with protein, forming complexes that deposit in the skin and are processed by sunlight (as in traditional photography).6,7 Other side effects from using colloidal silver products may include neurologic problems (such as seizures), kidney damage, stomach distress, headaches, fatigue, and skin irritation. Colloidal silver may interfere with the body's absorption of the following drugs: penacillamine, quinolones, tetracyclines, and thyroxine.5
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I have not had to take an antibiotic for 16 years and do not use OTC preparations. I find alternatives. I am not proud of that and do not boast of it. I only share it to emphasize how careful I am with what I put in my body.
Maybe you would think I have been asymptomatic for the duration or have a type that is more easily endured. I have been so sick at times that I could not hardly get out of bed and walk across the room. At other times I have felt pretty good. In my younger years I would have about one bad 3-4 mo period of being really sick. Now, I truly pace myself so I don't get that bad I just settle for a slow pace with lots of rest. I have a DO who also practices preventive medicine and he would suggest alt tx to me over the years. He was the one also who said I should be tested for the hep c since they had the distinction and not just non-specific. By him I have received vit c through an IV (vit c is anti-viral) on a weekly basis off and on through the years. He also suggested the lipoic acid which I have taken.
As I have gotten older I have learned to listen to my body and I have learned to rotate the anti-virals (AHCC (used in Japan), olive leaf extract, high dose Vit C, oregano oil, chinese herbs) I have learned that quality is extremely important and I have learned to find out who funds who in all information gathered. I take anti virals so that I don't just treat symptoms.
I use thymus to address immune support as well as chlorophyll and Kombucha tea to help raise the platelets and support the spleen. I work to increase my own interferon. I use milk thistle for liver support. I have hard copies of studies done using the AHCC, thymus, and milk thistle against the hep c virus symptoms and load.
I take a lot of supplements off and on but have a few that are mainstay. I exercise when I'm on the up swing, do self massage every morning, have a solid faith in my creator, have a great support system and try to be a support to others through various avenues.
Do you ask why I do all this when I could take drugs to once and for all eliminate this dragon? I wrote earlier that I had talked to people that had not had such good success with the drugs. I am glad that you all have, truly. One of my dearest friends has had two biopsies on her liver. First fine, second punctured her lung. I don't want to risk that. She has lowered her enzymes and viral load with alt tx ( I did not say silver) and has chosen to not do the drugs. Although, she has spoken of the day when a true cure is found. If I pretty pleased her she might consent to post here but, probably wouldn't want to take the time to do so as she doesn't do lists or forums like me.
It is a personal choice. I know myself and know I could not handle being sick for months. I also have never had medical insurance and pay for my blood work myself. Many heppers do not have health insurance and turn to alt tx for that reason. Had I a policy for years previously perhaps my inclination to standard treatment would be different, not having it my mindset for three decades has been to look elsewhere. Thankfully I have never needed a hospital visit.
Again, I apologize for impulsiveness, I respect your choices and please forgive the length of my post. I hope I never mislead anyone so I am always careful to do my research and encourage people to do their research and take responsibility for their own health whatever their choice.
Peace and May you walk in good health,
Nina
Maybe you would think I have been asymptomatic for the duration or have a type that is more easily endured. I have been so sick at times that I could not hardly get out of bed and walk across the room. At other times I have felt pretty good. In my younger years I would have about one bad 3-4 mo period of being really sick. Now, I truly pace myself so I don't get that bad I just settle for a slow pace with lots of rest. I have a DO who also practices preventive medicine and he would suggest alt tx to me over the years. He was the one also who said I should be tested for the hep c since they had the distinction and not just non-specific. By him I have received vit c through an IV (vit c is anti-viral) on a weekly basis off and on through the years. He also suggested the lipoic acid which I have taken.
As I have gotten older I have learned to listen to my body and I have learned to rotate the anti-virals (AHCC (used in Japan), olive leaf extract, high dose Vit C, oregano oil, chinese herbs) I have learned that quality is extremely important and I have learned to find out who funds who in all information gathered. I take anti virals so that I don't just treat symptoms.
I use thymus to address immune support as well as chlorophyll and Kombucha tea to help raise the platelets and support the spleen. I work to increase my own interferon. I use milk thistle for liver support. I have hard copies of studies done using the AHCC, thymus, and milk thistle against the hep c virus symptoms and load.
I take a lot of supplements off and on but have a few that are mainstay. I exercise when I'm on the up swing, do self massage every morning, have a solid faith in my creator, have a great support system and try to be a support to others through various avenues.
Do you ask why I do all this when I could take drugs to once and for all eliminate this dragon? I wrote earlier that I had talked to people that had not had such good success with the drugs. I am glad that you all have, truly. One of my dearest friends has had two biopsies on her liver. First fine, second punctured her lung. I don't want to risk that. She has lowered her enzymes and viral load with alt tx ( I did not say silver) and has chosen to not do the drugs. Although, she has spoken of the day when a true cure is found. If I pretty pleased her she might consent to post here but, probably wouldn't want to take the time to do so as she doesn't do lists or forums like me.
It is a personal choice. I know myself and know I could not handle being sick for months. I also have never had medical insurance and pay for my blood work myself. Many heppers do not have health insurance and turn to alt tx for that reason. Had I a policy for years previously perhaps my inclination to standard treatment would be different, not having it my mindset for three decades has been to look elsewhere. Thankfully I have never needed a hospital visit.
Again, I apologize for impulsiveness, I respect your choices and please forgive the length of my post. I hope I never mislead anyone so I am always careful to do my research and encourage people to do their research and take responsibility for their own health whatever their choice.
Peace and May you walk in good health,
Nina
am sorry this reply has been postponed. I have kids in from DC; my son in law is a 3rd yr med student at Bethesda. We have some very good conversations.
Mrement, I truly hope you are UND for the rest of your life, that gives much hope. I was googling for kombucha and hep c when I came across this site. When I read the original question I responded on impulse without really looking at the type of forum it was. I believe I was wrong in jumping in the way I did and I apologize.
I have been hoping to receive some replies from a few people that I had been in contact with in the past. Two I know who had lowered their enzymes and one whose load was found undetected while using eis (silver). The problem is when my computer crashed last fall I lost my archives and had to post to the lists that I am on to see if they would respond. They have not. Which is not surprising since people get on lists to learn, get encouragement, experience and relate back to the group. When people are doing well they tend to not stay up with a list because they are doing well unless, of course, they are very interested in the subject.
The list's archives were not held at the list site. There was a problem about a year ago with the server that was holding the archives; consequently, there are no archives available now. Hence, my posting with no response.
Even if I had received responses, I would have only used them to verify to myself that I had remembered correctly but, would not have divulged personal info on any list. I will not withdraw my statement that some people have lowered their enzymes and viral load using silver, specifically electrically isolated silver. I do not have a live person to back up my statement but, I will let it stand. You must also realize that due to the potential shutting down of web sites some have decided to protect their information vs trying to make money. Therefore, on the really good info sites you will not find testimonials pertaining to conditions such as HIV, hep, cancer etc. The good ones are also .org not .com It is safer. People have gone to prison, had their facilities ransacked, research destroyed all in the name of protecting the innocent. You may possibly agree, I don't.
I have never liked to discuss important subjects on the phone due to not being able to see the other person's face. I dislike even more discussing things vis email since you do not hear a person's voice as well as not seeing their face. Emails were originally meant for short messages not long discussions and too little may be said or too much read between the lines.
I am very happy for you that the virus is undetected in your body. Perhaps this combo that you used is what everyone has been waiting for. I have talked to a few people that were UND from the Interferon/ riba and are still UND. I have talked to more people though that either were too sick to continue and stopped or were UND and the virus came back. These are many of the people that turn to alt tx.
I personally do not use silver for hep c. I have been on two silver lists for about five years. I am intrigued by it and have used it for other conditions. I have always used other things to fight the hep c and have never splurged to buy a machine to make it at home. To buy the silver to treat the virus would be too expensive to me.
I have been sick since I was about 20 yo. Never really recouped from the initial sickness. Mid - twenties I began looking for ways to rebuild my husband's and my body from our drug abuse days and that led us to a healthy lifestyle. I worked in a county hospital as an aide for two years doing things that RNs only do now as their was only one RN per wing. I learned a lot. I then worked in the dental field for 10 years as an asst. I learned a lot. All the time working both places with no gloves as no one used gloves back in the 70's except when the situation was too messy. When my children grew older I worked in a chiropractors office until 2 years ago and I learned much in that environment as well as continuing my own research via library and internet.
I have four children (none positive). They were born at home with a midwife. They have grown up learning how to take care of their bodies. They were all homeschooled, youngest 16 (Aspergers syndrome and we are constantly looking for new tx for him that will not be a drug.) One child working on Masters works for Nat'l Autism Foundation in DC. One child out of college working, one still in college and youngest at home still.
I take my health seriously. I belong to a national health food buying coop as well as belong to a local community supported organic agriculture coop. For five months of the year our produce is picked in the morning and we get it in the afternoon. Our meat, chicken, eggs are raised organic or at least free range and I avoid sugar like I do alcohol.
Mrement, I truly hope you are UND for the rest of your life, that gives much hope. I was googling for kombucha and hep c when I came across this site. When I read the original question I responded on impulse without really looking at the type of forum it was. I believe I was wrong in jumping in the way I did and I apologize.
I have been hoping to receive some replies from a few people that I had been in contact with in the past. Two I know who had lowered their enzymes and one whose load was found undetected while using eis (silver). The problem is when my computer crashed last fall I lost my archives and had to post to the lists that I am on to see if they would respond. They have not. Which is not surprising since people get on lists to learn, get encouragement, experience and relate back to the group. When people are doing well they tend to not stay up with a list because they are doing well unless, of course, they are very interested in the subject.
The list's archives were not held at the list site. There was a problem about a year ago with the server that was holding the archives; consequently, there are no archives available now. Hence, my posting with no response.
Even if I had received responses, I would have only used them to verify to myself that I had remembered correctly but, would not have divulged personal info on any list. I will not withdraw my statement that some people have lowered their enzymes and viral load using silver, specifically electrically isolated silver. I do not have a live person to back up my statement but, I will let it stand. You must also realize that due to the potential shutting down of web sites some have decided to protect their information vs trying to make money. Therefore, on the really good info sites you will not find testimonials pertaining to conditions such as HIV, hep, cancer etc. The good ones are also .org not .com It is safer. People have gone to prison, had their facilities ransacked, research destroyed all in the name of protecting the innocent. You may possibly agree, I don't.
I have never liked to discuss important subjects on the phone due to not being able to see the other person's face. I dislike even more discussing things vis email since you do not hear a person's voice as well as not seeing their face. Emails were originally meant for short messages not long discussions and too little may be said or too much read between the lines.
I am very happy for you that the virus is undetected in your body. Perhaps this combo that you used is what everyone has been waiting for. I have talked to a few people that were UND from the Interferon/ riba and are still UND. I have talked to more people though that either were too sick to continue and stopped or were UND and the virus came back. These are many of the people that turn to alt tx.
I personally do not use silver for hep c. I have been on two silver lists for about five years. I am intrigued by it and have used it for other conditions. I have always used other things to fight the hep c and have never splurged to buy a machine to make it at home. To buy the silver to treat the virus would be too expensive to me.
I have been sick since I was about 20 yo. Never really recouped from the initial sickness. Mid - twenties I began looking for ways to rebuild my husband's and my body from our drug abuse days and that led us to a healthy lifestyle. I worked in a county hospital as an aide for two years doing things that RNs only do now as their was only one RN per wing. I learned a lot. I then worked in the dental field for 10 years as an asst. I learned a lot. All the time working both places with no gloves as no one used gloves back in the 70's except when the situation was too messy. When my children grew older I worked in a chiropractors office until 2 years ago and I learned much in that environment as well as continuing my own research via library and internet.
I have four children (none positive). They were born at home with a midwife. They have grown up learning how to take care of their bodies. They were all homeschooled, youngest 16 (Aspergers syndrome and we are constantly looking for new tx for him that will not be a drug.) One child working on Masters works for Nat'l Autism Foundation in DC. One child out of college working, one still in college and youngest at home still.
I take my health seriously. I belong to a national health food buying coop as well as belong to a local community supported organic agriculture coop. For five months of the year our produce is picked in the morning and we get it in the afternoon. Our meat, chicken, eggs are raised organic or at least free range and I avoid sugar like I do alcohol.
It's not a cure, nor a treatment for HEP C, but drinking regular grocery store bought tea, i.e. black tea like Lipton's, or green tea like Bigelow's, I think would be safe. The antioxidant properties of tea is good science, lot's of studies to back that up. I wouldn't really do it in excess on treatment though because it might be too much of a diuretic type of effect. I also would still only drink in as part of your normal fluid intake during the day, but not as an excessive type of thing. But, for the same reason, I wouldn't be going off drinking massive quantities of 'juicing' on the fresh fruit and/or vegative juice thing. Anything that you go overboard with like that, can throw your body out of whack. Too many of a certain type of vitamin is not a good idea either. Just IMHO.
Susan
Susan
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