liver stages

[PSL]

What are the different stages of liver disease.  You are all saying stage 1, 2 3.   I am not sure what the different stages are/  
I know there is fibrosis and then chirrosis.  So are the stages 1 ect for fibrosis or chirrosis?  (SP) Sometime I am not the best speller.....
Thanks in advance for your reply./.

[chellski]

hi.  i'm michelle.  my husband died 3yrs ago due to hep-c related complications...he was a kidney transplant survivor also...we have three girls who at the time were 9, 12, & 15....they got to say goodbye to their dad (who was not awake at the time) just hours before he died....needless to say, the next two and a half years were hell....what did help us was talking, alot of counceling, more communication, love and acceptance for all our different ways of grieving....almost two years after he died, i found out i had hep-c (i just finished tx in march and have been clear since 12 weeks)  well my girls thought that this was a death sentence for me also....i got them all tested - just for peace of mind - they were all negative....the two older ones were very angry, at their dad for leaving, at me for surviving, and then at me again for getting this g.d. disease....right now we are all doing just ok...we will always have incredibly strong feelings about this disease....we have all reasearched and learned so much about this disease also...we are getting along though, which is really good....still go to councelling occasionally....my one daughter is on an anti-depressant....i would love to talk to you more and offer that you and your kids can get thru this, and maybe even your husband too....it will not be easy.....their hatred came at a time when i was vulnerable on tx and very emotional.....i will keep an eye out for your posts so we can converse....good luck to you.....i know you have the strength to get thru this thru the love of your family....and you have found the best possible place to vent, ask questions, cry, rejoice, and just about anything here at medhelp....the most caring, intelligent, and accepting people i have found here will listen to you no matter what.....be well friend....hop to hear from you again....keep coming back here...
michelle

[goldyn]

So sorry about that darn thunderstorm maybe next weekend, and thanks for the little pep talk i needed that....

[cuteus]

well, freaking t storms blew the plans away! stayed home and watched

[bobbyullc]

http://www.hepnet.com/hkn/c14.html

THIS SITE HAS A LOT OF INFO ON BX DATA. GOOD READING.
BOBBY

[merlino]

He is very very angry. Won't talk to me just my kids. He lives in another state. We have been divorced for quite some time. Not that it matters . I just called my family dr. Wants both of my kids in therapy now. I just hate what this disease does to us all. Mentally as well as physically. It doesn't matter how we contracted it none of us deserve this hell.I hope he has friends around him at this time. I can only pray for him.I am so worried about my kids. I tried to talk to the youngest ( close to dad)a little while ago won't talk. I have to stop this wimping and get a grip for my kids. Thank you for your kindness,

[Kalio1]

I can't imagine how difficult all of this is on you. Is your ex on a transplant list? It seems like at this point he should have a transplant team or his doctor was working with a center. I don't know any details obviously but it seems like he would be involved with a transplant specialist at this point.
Good luck with the therapy, I hope you can go too because it is very hard on you pus you have Hep C also and need and deserve the support with all of this. I got my prayers out there for you, keep breathing and try to hang on.

[Gonna beat it]

Please don't compare his outcome to your own, I'm sure you will be fine and your children will also survive, and thrive. I am so sorry they have to go through this, but it does amaze me what the human spirit can endure. God Bless you all.

[friole]

Merlino
I am so sorry for your circumstances. I know you will all get through this, but times will be difficult. There is a fine member here who has dealt with these issues.  I will try to get ahold of her so she can post you you.  Chellski has just successfully completed her treatment for hepatitis C.  Her husband died of causes related to C and she is single parenting 3 teens.  She would have much to share with you regarding issues both she and her daughters had.
frijole

[cuteus]

chellski is the perfect person to relate to your situation, Merlino. Great suggestion, Kath!

[Kalio1]

I am so sorry to hear you and your kids are going thru this. I really think you guys all can use some help with this. I would call Hospice and speak to them about it they can lead you in the right direction. You all wuld benefit from some grief counselling. Another idea might be to call his dotor's office they might be able to connect you with others who have been in your situation and who have kids involved.
Good luck in this difficult time. I wish you strength.

[friole]

I sent Chell a note - Don't know if she will see it today or not til tonight.  How ya doing today?  Happy Friday

[tulsatime]

I am so sorry to hear this. It is scary. There are no easy answers. Like you said hopfully he has some friends around too. You sound like such a caring person to be worried about him when all this is going on in your own home. I think Kalio is right, your kids need someone to talk to. If they won't talk to you maybe they will open up to someone else. A grief counsler or someone like that. I am glad you found us here for you to talk to. You are in my prayers. God Bless

[merlino]

you are all right. That is just what I am thinking and that is one of the reasons I am so upset. I know my situation is different but it has me terrified. He never treated and from what I know he is on the list , has had a few esophageal bleeds and is swelling along with a lot of other problems. I am going to leave work now. I am going home to be with my youngest. Thank you all.  Will keep in touch.

[cuteus]

hope you are feeling an easy day, and it is not too hot in your end/neck of the woods.

I am in the process of doing my state taxes  for 2004 and 05. about 600 bucks coming back to me. I think I am caught up with the feds.

we are planning a night out with the golden girls from work, about 15 of us crazy women, taking the ferry to a Fire Island's restaurant. should be interesting.
happy friday

[friole]

Your night on the town sounds like fun.  We were supposed to have dinner with some friends from out of town but they called on their cell saying their transmission went out an hour from there home and they hoped they could just make it back home.  Oh well.  And no, the heat is relentless right now - not giving any of us a break. Not sure if it broke 100 today but has the last 2 or 3. indoor time.

[goldyn]

sounds so fun, id so much rather be doing that then my friday night ritual shooting 34/48...raise a little hello for all us friday nighters who arent feelin so strong.......

[Kalio1]

Hope this helps explain the stages, I found this explaination:

"The biopsy is graded by two scoring systems. Both the degree of scarring (known as the "stage" of liver disease) and the degree of inflammation (known as the "grade" of disease) are noted. There are four stages. Stage 1 refers to a minimal amount of scarring, limited to an area of the liver known as the portal triad (where the arteries, veins and bile ducts are found). Further progression of scarring outside of the portal triad and into surrounding liver cells is considered stages 2 and 3. When scarring results in long bridges of fibrous tissue that separate nodules of normal liver tissue, it is called stage 4, or cirrhosis.

Liver disease also is graded on a scale of 1-4. In grade 1, there is minimal infiltration of inflammatory cells into the portal triad. As these cells spill over into the liver tissue from the portal triad, it is considered grades 2-3. Finally, large amounts of inflammation that involves all the liver is known as grade 4."

[merlino]

Sorry to break in on thread but I feel so bad I need to talk. Last night my ex told my youngest he has only a few months left due to ESLD from Hep C. I have known this was coming. My kids are devestated. They don't know I am startin tx in Oct. I am so so sad for my ex and so angry at this disease. For someone always in control I just don't know what to do next. My kids won't talk about their dad, I won't talk about it except here.I can't stop crying, I am scared and feel alone. Sorry for being such a wimp and not even on tx but right now I am so overwhemled don't know what to do.

[friole]

When you have a biopsy they give you GRADE of inflamation and STAGE  of fibrosis.  Fibrosis is the amount of scarring in your liver.  When this fibrosis is centered around the portal triads - this is the place where the blood vessels and waste ducts meet in the liver and it is where the inflamatiOn starts -- this is STAGE 1.  When the scarring starts spreading out beyond the portal triads, this is STAGE 2 & 3.  Eventually the scarring gets so bad and bridges from one place to another in the liver cutting off good parts of the liver.  This is STAGE 4.

Hope this helps.
frijole