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percent liver damage

i keep forgeting to ask my doctor what is the estimated percent of liver damage for the various stages of damage. my guess is
  
stage 1 - 15%
      2 - 30%
      3 - 45%
      4 - 60%
      5 - 75%
my doc says you can live with as little as 20% of your liver working
but thats it. he also said that my stage 3 is only 20% damage.
im not even sure i beleive that.
whats the real poop gang?


now that we need the end of the world, surely it will never come.
gotta bolt.
      
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I do not know they have stage and grade
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i think you are off base.

the stage doesn't mean how much of the liver is damaged but what type damage is present. it goes from mear swelling in the early to unrepairable scarring in the cirrossis stage. google liver damage or biopsy stages and get the full idea with pictures.  
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my biopsy says

portal fibrosis,                   (associated with stage 1)
periportal fibrosis,               (associated with stage 2)
and stage 3 septal fibrosis.
nowhere does it say bridging fibrosis which is the advanced stage 3 (i think).
maybe i only have early stage 3 and therefore realistic damage
from 20% (33%) 45%. i guess the biopsy inaccuracy factor makes these pinpoint guesses somewhat meaningless but what the hey, its fun!
we need an expert here. im having a nervous breakdown,
ive only had this biopsy 8 months, and never even looked at it!!
can you imagine someone accusing me of not being thorough?


if im posting, i feel good,  Hallelujiah for now, but it wont last!
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ive looked at a bunch of pictures, stage three looks bad.
i agree that a percentage is an oversimplification
but it is still useful for my visualization and conception of the danger level.
especially since my doc said only 20% of my liver is gone i figured i had plenty left to get me through my life if i didnt lose any more and maybe i could even drink again someday. ny girl said the way she understands it, a stage 3 is way worse than 20%. catlls numbers agree.

how many years are you post?
are you getting better at all?
i can only guess that youve tried everything
including exercise with no results.
elaborate if you have a free minute.


inquiring dummies want to know.
(would that be all of us? i guess youre right, only me for the dummie part)
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You can measure it in percents.

Just felt guilty that I have not reliable memory.

http://www.hcvadvocate.org/news/NewsUpdates_pdf/Advocate%202007/advocate0607.pdf
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i just met a blinded pathologist last week.
that dude was weird.



help!!!!!!


(by the way thanks for the good answers)
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Well thank goodness your txing already..so are you on any rescue drugs?
how is your red and whites doing and why are you doing 72 when were you unde?
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Other than a place where we might find an actor, what is Stage 5?
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when are you going to start tx?I would think hard about starting pretty soon, the quicker you start killing the virus the faster your liver can healup ...The way my Doc put it that i was halfway at a stage 2, and that was all it took before I climbed on board the tx crazy train......
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fl guy
me make a mistake? of course not, i was just testing
to see if anyone was listening. you passed the test, im so proud.

goldyn,
thank god im almost halfway through at week 27 of 72, but not to worry, i cant keep up with
anyones stats around here anyway. im too lazy to use the role call and kinda wish
we had the little 'stats box" like they do on other sites. but then it wouldnt be the famous medhelp forum if we had that!
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It might be different system though
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i am 12 months post and have severe fatigue and memory problems.
i try and jog every day but do not have the energy. i jogged 3 miles a day before tx.

if you are only stage 2 you may consider waiting a year or less to see how the new drugs work out. they have to be getting done with stage 3 trials soon and could be on the market in a year or 2. if you start now you will be just completing when the new drugs hopefully are approved. if so it may only be 4 - 24 weeks tx with a much higher success rate. it would be a bummer to finish 48 weeks when the new drugs get released with only a 4 week tx time? especially if you do not clear and have to try again.

i waited many years from stage 2.2 until i treated and in that time tx svr rates went from 10% to 50%.
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Hi,

I
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"Other than a place where we might find an actor, what is Stage 5?"

Said actor being Charlton Heston?
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