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worried about possible viral breakthrough
guys in this 13th week of treatment the last two days of the week saw pale stool color.
i've been having upper right quadrant pain this entire week. today it has gotten a bit worse, though not as worse as pre tx. this is the first time i had this pain on tx.
i was undetected at week 4 and 7. age 25, pretx VL 50,000 IU/ML. no biopsy, infected less than 4 years. genotype 3a.
i've given blood for a PCR but to tell u the truth i'm kinda terrified ...
i've been having upper right quadrant pain this entire week. today it has gotten a bit worse, though not as worse as pre tx. this is the first time i had this pain on tx.
i was undetected at week 4 and 7. age 25, pretx VL 50,000 IU/ML. no biopsy, infected less than 4 years. genotype 3a.
i've given blood for a PCR but to tell u the truth i'm kinda terrified ...
"It makes pooping fun!!! :-0 And it's really yummy..."
Reminds me of an old joke with the punchline "glad I didn't step in it"
Reminds me of an old joke with the punchline "glad I didn't step in it"
thanks for your well wishes,,,yup started tx,,i posted to you over in the never ending eternal stairway to heaven thread.lol but it is actually long enough to reach the heavens. you've been around for a long time,,,,is that the longest thread? Do i get a prize, ya think? I never win anything,,it would be nice, if I got something,,, No?
sung to 'And the Beat Goes On.'
AND THE POOOP, GOES ON,,,,,THE POOP GOES ON..or what ever that song was,,,I think i hear Sonny and cher in my head or is that the Riba Marching Band?,,, Only kidding,
I feel like I got tired worn out Riba pills that have expired, Maybe they are returns that were left on the back of someones car seat in 100 degree weather, ha! Actually that wouldn't be funny though.
AND THE POOOP, GOES ON,,,,,THE POOP GOES ON..or what ever that song was,,,I think i hear Sonny and cher in my head or is that the Riba Marching Band?,,, Only kidding,
I feel like I got tired worn out Riba pills that have expired, Maybe they are returns that were left on the back of someones car seat in 100 degree weather, ha! Actually that wouldn't be funny though.
niceguy is still in the throes of fear? nice to see familiar scenarios going on! Niceguy, 13 weeks!!?? looking good for you!
myown started tx? geesh! how long was I gone? good luck!
myown started tx? geesh! how long was I gone? good luck!
Ahh, it's been awhile since we seen a poop discussion. I thought perhaps there was a ripple in the Matrix and the cycle had been broken.
and you really are taking what i said as serious???????,,, i tease him as having 'poop, envy',,,, its a joke,,,,,,,
I thought I knew a little about marriage and relationships but that kind of stuff is news me. A marriage with jealousy and competition is those areas is way too bizarre for me.
Mike
Mike
thank you all for your helpful poo-poo hints. niceguy,,i didn't realize that the psyllium should be taken with warm milk for constipation,,good tip, thanks! Mauilady,,sounds like a delicious soup, thanks for taking the time to type all that!
mkeela,,yes poop envy,who would think i would covet my husbands stools?? we think we know who we are deep inside, but sometimes we have that demon of 'jealousy,' living within,though unaware. I turn up the CD player in the kitchen when he goes into the bathroom, as to not hear any possible farting.He can't help the noise,but at one time I thought he had a mini Crate amplifier hooked up just to make me jealous. The marriage is good, but any marriage can have competition enter if we are not careful and keeping a watchful eye. The sound of his farts causes me to weep,longing for my farts of yester-year,,long gone,,,BUT!!! with that poop-soup that Mauilady was so nice to give me (and thank you Mauilady!)plus the warm milk tip from nice guy,,I KNOW THAT I KNOW, that not only will I be back to pooping and farting,,i will probably even experience the once "Feared Fudgies" while standing in line at the supermarket. I don't care,,, no embarrassment here,,,,this stuff needs to go,,,anywhere, anytime, in front of whoever, who cares, right? bowel evacuation is what i strive for at any cost. I'm sure you understand,lol, even though you don't have this problem. Like minded people and understanding is what makes support forums so great.
APKHAOS,saw you're post in the other thread. thanks for your input.I didn't want to post in that thread anymore. I want to focus on the positive, the negative can add to constipation, I think maybe.
mkeela,,yes poop envy,who would think i would covet my husbands stools?? we think we know who we are deep inside, but sometimes we have that demon of 'jealousy,' living within,though unaware. I turn up the CD player in the kitchen when he goes into the bathroom, as to not hear any possible farting.He can't help the noise,but at one time I thought he had a mini Crate amplifier hooked up just to make me jealous. The marriage is good, but any marriage can have competition enter if we are not careful and keeping a watchful eye. The sound of his farts causes me to weep,longing for my farts of yester-year,,long gone,,,BUT!!! with that poop-soup that Mauilady was so nice to give me (and thank you Mauilady!)plus the warm milk tip from nice guy,,I KNOW THAT I KNOW, that not only will I be back to pooping and farting,,i will probably even experience the once "Feared Fudgies" while standing in line at the supermarket. I don't care,,, no embarrassment here,,,,this stuff needs to go,,,anywhere, anytime, in front of whoever, who cares, right? bowel evacuation is what i strive for at any cost. I'm sure you understand,lol, even though you don't have this problem. Like minded people and understanding is what makes support forums so great.
APKHAOS,saw you're post in the other thread. thanks for your input.I didn't want to post in that thread anymore. I want to focus on the positive, the negative can add to constipation, I think maybe.
Here's a great recipe... I call it my "PoopSoup"! :
Bake a halved and seeded butterrnut squash.
Chop about 3 leaves kale, 1/2 rib celery, 1/2 onion, 1/4 bell pepper, 1 clove garlic, 1/2 " ginger root.
Saute all chopped ingredients in 1-2 T. olive oil, then puree in blender with organic chicken or veggie (chicken tastes better) stock. Pour into stock pot.
Scrape squash into blender, and puree with the stock. Pour into pot. Heat through, salt and pepper to taste, and enjoy! Also tastes good cold with a dollop of yogurt.
This saved me when I was having a major bout with diverticulitis. It makes pooping fun!!! :-0 And it's really yummy...
Bake a halved and seeded butterrnut squash.
Chop about 3 leaves kale, 1/2 rib celery, 1/2 onion, 1/4 bell pepper, 1 clove garlic, 1/2 " ginger root.
Saute all chopped ingredients in 1-2 T. olive oil, then puree in blender with organic chicken or veggie (chicken tastes better) stock. Pour into stock pot.
Scrape squash into blender, and puree with the stock. Pour into pot. Heat through, salt and pepper to taste, and enjoy! Also tastes good cold with a dollop of yogurt.
This saved me when I was having a major bout with diverticulitis. It makes pooping fun!!! :-0 And it's really yummy...
Oh Myown...that is so funny..."poop envy"...HA! I have had diareah (sp) all through tx so I haven't had to ask if Dulcolax, Milk of Mag. etc. are even safe AT ALL for tx...even seems like I have heard someplace that those are real bad during tx...hmm maybe not, brain fog gots me...but that would be an excellent question to post when you get the chance.
Thanks, but ya know what I don't eat meat, except for chicken and maybe, just maybe,, hormone free meat in the summer, but not that often.
i do eat lots of fruit.
I think its the menopause thing. low progesterone, which i have, well i need to check it again, but tonight i will drink hot water with lemon before i go to bed, that usually helps. Prunes have iron, so i won't eat them on tx. if you eat any iron containing foods, they say to take calcium supplements after the meal and your body won't absorb the iron.
my husband is like a dog, he goes after every meal. he makes me so jealous. ha! I tell him I have poop-envy.
thanks orphan
i do eat lots of fruit.
I think its the menopause thing. low progesterone, which i have, well i need to check it again, but tonight i will drink hot water with lemon before i go to bed, that usually helps. Prunes have iron, so i won't eat them on tx. if you eat any iron containing foods, they say to take calcium supplements after the meal and your body won't absorb the iron.
my husband is like a dog, he goes after every meal. he makes me so jealous. ha! I tell him I have poop-envy.
thanks orphan
Just adding to the chorus of people reassuring you. I never had URQ pain before treatment and didn't have it for the first 20 weeks of treatment. Then I had it for about a month and then it was gone again. My 3 month post treatment PCR was negative. I'm waiting to hear the results of my 6 month with fingers crossed, but I don't think you can attribute URW pain to a viral breakthrough. Take deep breaths.
myown, drink warm milk twice a day preferably mixed with a tbsp of psylium husk. never eat psylium cold in constipation.
I take lactulose for ammonia but it is a laxative. You can also cut out meat, cheese and bananas. Eat lots of fruits and veggies. And drink lots of liquids.
i think this is probably just the way we all get nervous. you have everything in your favor, young, low viral load,geno type. you probably have no damage at all,,that is a big help to svr. I'd be happy with purple,pale, green, or checker stools right now,,,I can't go the bathroom at all.
Any suggestions for constipation,,,if you see this,i'd appreciate it if you let me know. thanks
Any suggestions for constipation,,,if you see this,i'd appreciate it if you let me know. thanks
Fear of viral breakthough is absolutely normal. We all have had it, analyzing every little ache, pain, etc, etc, as a "sign". In the vast majority of cases, no viral breakthough. In fact, viral breakthough is relatively uncommon because you're still on the treatment drugs. I've glad you've taken a PCR because that should soon put an end to your anxiety on viral breakthough. Hope this finds you otherwise well.
__ Jim
__ Jim
the qual pcr i used at wks 7 and 13 was the AMPLICOR 2.0 , tho by which company i dunno.
how can ppl say that pain means that the liver is healing when this is the same URQ pain felt by so many ppl b4 tx?
WOW I can't believe you are at week 13 already!!!! I am so proud of you for sticking through this...you poor thing worrying like you do, you just amaze me sometimes. I remember when I hit the 1/2 way mark. After that, the brain fog REALLY set in and it helped the rest of this time on tx slide quickly. Got one shot left. :)
You should be just fine sweety as you have been ;) Don't ever feel alone, because you are not. We all worry about the things you mention...we just might not worry as deeply and as much. Again, I am soooo proud of you for making it thus far!!!!!
You should be just fine sweety as you have been ;) Don't ever feel alone, because you are not. We all worry about the things you mention...we just might not worry as deeply and as much. Again, I am soooo proud of you for making it thus far!!!!!
Hang in there you sound like you are doing just fine. Stay warm and keep on your treatment.
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