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GRACE PLEASE HELP! VERY WEIRD HSV1 CASE! PLEASE READ!

Hello Grace,

I've been on this forum SEVERAL times due to some stupid decisions on my part but this may be a very unique case and I'm hoping you can analize my situation and provide useful advice and/or info.  I have always had HSV1 and I've tested positive for it when I do routine STD screenings.  HOWEVER, today I gave my bf unprotected oral sex while I had a small healed herpes sore on my upper lip.  The sore scabbed and the scab came off today so you see a red open area that burns when I lick it.  Basically, my sore healed but the scab came off so I'm not sure if that would still be considered an "active outbreak".  After this encounter, my bf and I had PROTECTED sex twice and my questions are the following:

1)  Can I still transmit the virus to his genitals when the sore had already scabbed and it now just resembled an open cut?  Is this still still considered an "active outbreak"

2) In case I did INFECT him can this HSV1 infection be passed on to me genitally even with a condom on?

3)  Should I be worried about this exposure?  I've read threads from Dr. HHH where he states that the body builds immunity once you have been infected with HSV1 and it's highly unlikely to get infected elsewhere in the body due to the body's antibodies towards the virus.

4)  Should I have my bf tested?  Was the risk high on both of our ends? Will the condom reduce my chances of acquiring HSV1 after I performed oral sex on my bf with a healed/open herpes sore and then had sex with him twice?
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Can you tell me a little bit about your current hsv scare?  I read a little of your story and wanted to ask you directly on this.  Well, as of me, the only thing i'm scared of is that I gave HSV1 genitally to my boyfriend.  I didn't think that it could be possible since my herpes sore was dry and the scab came off and there was only pink skin to replace it.  I'm terrified that he'll call me with the bad news and tell me that I've ruined his life.  I'm just wondering the likelihood of transmitting the virus via a first exposure.   This is the first time that we were intimate so i'm worried sick.
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1174003 tn?1308160819
As I said the virus doesn't live long outside of the body and is very fragile.  You do not get Herpes from inatimate objects.  Herpes needs warmth from the body and one of the reasons it doesn't live long in saliva when outside of the body.  Grace is pretty busy on Sat and Sunday so she typically doesn't respond.  I have been busy myself with school and haven't been posting much.
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Thanks! I look for input from others as well and I was hoping grace would answer as well since she has plenty of useful information.  Do you know specifically if sharing razors is a risk for contracting herpes?
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1174003 tn?1308160819
Sadly I didn't look at your post history or I would have said the same thing to wait for terri.  Anyway to give you a quick answer.  HSV doesn't live long outside of the body.  However, sharing razors is a bad idea.  Don't do it.  Get your own.
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Grace-  same question goes to you.  If a person shaved with a razor who belongs of somebody who has hsv2, would that person be at risk?  How long can HSV2 live on a razor? The infected person used it a week before the uninfected person did. Any thoughts? LAST QUESTION I PROMISE!
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Hi Grace,

I know you're a crucial part of this forum and I'd love to get some insight from you as well.  So you input is as well GREATLY APPRECIATED.  I read on a post from you that usually when a herpes sore is scabbed over and has fallen off the risk of transmitting the virus is quite small.  My sore at that moment was already going through the post-scabbing stages.  I also read somewhere in the dermatology forum that usually when this happens there is little to worry about in regards to transmitting the virus and that it is most contagious when it's going through the "weeping stage".  Would you agree with this?
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Thanks for the response Mistakeguy.  Well, I remember him saying that he had a cold sore once (but this was wayyyy before we ever got physical so chances are that he does indeed have hsv1 already).  Also, how long can hsv2 and/or hsv1 live on an object like a razor?  Let's say I shaved with a razor with somebody of HSV2 status a week after this person used it...would I be at risk?

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you are already discussing this with Terri. no need for my 2 cents. get your money's worth since you paid to talk to her.

grace
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I am not grace (she looks better then me) but I wanted to give you some information and help you out.

1).  Given you have seen the information we have provided here you can tell that we can't tell with 100% that you didn't have the virus still present.  Chances are that the virus retreated but its not a perfect science sadly.  

2). Not really no.  The body developes anitbodies (which you already have) to fight the infection from getting to another spot.  So to answer this the response is it is HIGHLY unlikely you will catch genital HSV-1.  

3) See reponse to #2.

4) Has he ever been tested for HSV?  He may have it himself and not even know.  I wouldn't tell you to have him tested really unless he get symptoms within 2-20 days after this happened.  If so have him seen within 24-48 hours for a lesision culture.  Oral sex is low risk anyway it doesn't always lead to someone being infected.
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