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Genital Wart outbreaks for 7 years

Hi,

I'm a male who has been suffering with genital warts outbreaks for over 6-7 years...

I have done a ton of research on the subject of HPV.  I was first diagnosed with HPV genital warts back in 2006 when I was 23/24.

When I first went to my general practitioner doctor back in 2006 when I had 1 wart on my penis shaft, the idiot said to leave it and it would go away. After about 6 months it didn't and then I had a further outbreak of more at the base of my penis.

Anyway, over the years I've gone to the free clinic near where I live and I've had numerous Podophillin/Freezing treatments and they used to get rid of the warts for a while but then they come back eventually.  The longest I've been without warts is roughly about a year.

The outbreaks I have had in the last 2/3 years seem to be a lot smaller, almost hardly noticable, I only know what to look for because I use a magnifying glass and I can see the tiny more clearly.  They have been confirmed at the clinic each time so I'm not being paranoid.

I've tried the full 4 month course of Aldara recently after a recent outbreak but this had no affect whatsoever, I didn't even have any skin reaction or anything, I just felt a bit tired with flu like symptoms so I don't think I will take it again.

It seems here in the UK and across most western medicine practices, they just treat the visible signs of infection without addressing the underlying immunity (or lack of) cause.  I believe my problem is my body's cell-mediated response, it seems it has never really shut down this virus.

Has anyone heard of using Tagamet to boost cell-mediated activity?  I hear it has helped kids overcome normal and genital warts. I've ordered some and I'm self medicating at 600mg with a view to increasing for a maximum of 2-3 months.  I've read about adults who have had success and this drug can help activate cell-mediated activity to clear the virus.

I rarely get ill or allergies but I think my cell-mediated activity is malfuncitoning and I need something to boost my immune system.

I also hear Dr Ian Frazer, creator of Gardasil is also working on a therapeutic form of the Gardasil vaccine, when this will be ready and approved for use though is anyone's guess.  I guess I'll have to wait until I'm 40 or something.

All the docs tell me to just persist with the normal treatments of freezing but I feel these don't address the problem of immunity.

In addition no matter what anyone says, it's very hard to start a relationship with these warts around. Over the years I've had 10 sexual partners, some casual, some gf's, always when the warts aren't around and I've been clear for a long while. Is it more likely that I have caught another strain of the virus?  

Anyway, I've decided to be celibate until I meet someone I want to have a long-term relationship with I don't want to pass anything on to anyone else and I don't want to catch any other strains of the HPV virus. I feel like until I can go 6 months without an outbreak there's really no point even dating someone. The whole experience has really made me scared now of going with anyone, obviously warts aren't that serious and I'm also afraid of all the other more serious things you can catch.

If any doctor or anyone with any useful advice is reading this I'd like your opinion on whether my immune system can fight the virus. Am I the 1-2% of the rare people who will get outbreaks for the rest of their life?
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for immune system daily multivitamin and folic acid are advisable..also Vitamin A supplement and and L-lysene tablets. I have read them on other web pages.. maybe they work..
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Hi,

Thanks for the advice, I forgot to mention I am already taking these high dose supplements, some important ones as liquid drops for best absorption into the body.  I also don't smoke, rarely drink and I exercise.

Adult Multivitamin (contains high dosages of all B vitamins)
liquid vitamin D drops
liquid vitamin A
liquid vitamin E
liquid Folic Acid
Vitamin C with Bilberry
Garlic Capsules
Calcium Complex
Reiki/Shitake mushroom capsules (immune boost apparently)

Good point about L-lysene is one I need to add to my daily supplement intake, I have read before about it's benefits for those with cold sores and so on, so I'll get this.

I take these at high dosages but still my immune system does nothing it's like it doesn't see the virus as a threat.

Personally healthwise I feel great, I never get ill for some reason my immune system just doesn't lock the virus down.  I've never had that immune response where the immune system just gets rid of the warts on their own and they turn black and vanish.  I hear about people who have this and I envy them, seriously don't know what's wrong with my immunity.

What else can I be doing, I've even considered wierd alternative therapies like acupuncture or crystal therapy, lol.

Any other advice?
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Hi,

Can you please share links of hospitals and websites where you've found info about supplement treatment? I just read about zinc sulfate and this stuff called profitech

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I've had it for just as long and am just as fed up. I've only upped my vitamin intake, not sure what else to do. I also don't smoke and rarely get sick. I work out constantly and eat fairly well. I do drink on the weekends, that is definitely my weakest link, but I don't think it is why the virus persist with me. Is there an email I can contact you at? If not maybe we can just continue to share experiences on here. I'd like to stay in touch with people dealing with similar issues for just as long. It seems very hard these days to find people to relate to that have had it for a long time.
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Hi Gabri,

There are loads of links on the net, here are just some examples.  Try not to go overboard, it can be overwhelming when you see all the different things people take. The basics are eat healthy with lots of veg/fruit and exercise to try and keep your immune system strong. The only problem with the food we eat is that through modern farming methods veg/fruit have less nutritional value than they did 100 years ago, e.g. a spinach back in 1915 had approx. 248mg of Iron, nowdays it will have 50mg, so it has 1/5th of the nutritional value, no wonder people get genital wart outbreaks and cancers.  Our ancestors were eating healthier ****! We'd have to eat loads just to get the same nutritional value, so that's why supplementation does help make sure you're not deficient in certain things.

From all the research I have done (I also work in nutrition, ironically) I would say supplementing the following during and after treatment may help you:

Here's a full list of what I'm taking and why from research I've done:

. Adult Multivitamin & Minerals - if you get a good one with good levels of all vitamins and trace minerals this will save taking too many individual vitamins

. Vitamin A - has been found to support skin cells and immune function

. Vitamin B complex - you need to get enough B vitamins as these help synthesise energy that your cells and immune cells need to reproduce and function

. Vitamin C - Vitamin C is well known to support immune function

. Vitamin D - I live in the UK so everyone is sunlight deficient, vitamin D has been shown to help mediate immune system function properly and maintain mood and hormone balance.

. Vitamin E - for cell function and has been linked to immunity

. Zinc - I take sulphate but gluconate is also meant to be good, supports immune function

. Selenium - supports immune function

. Garlic - Antiseptic and anti fungal, allicin in Garlic has this property, basically helps make environment difficult for viruses/bacteris to survive.

. Shitake/Miatake/Reishi mushroom extract - in Japanese herbal medicine these have been found to boost the immune system

. L-lyceine - It's an amino acid.  Research shows it helps people who have herpes outbreaks both orally and in the genital region. I've added this recently, it's meant to help inhibit virus replication somehow and support immune function.

Green Tea - Chinese drink it, it's been shown to have many health benefits including boosting the immune system.  I actually prefer it to caffeinated drinks now, I rarely drink coffee or tea because I prefer green tea and I know it's healthier for me.

Probiotic - Maintaining healthy levels of gut bacteria help immunity, antibiotics actually kill good bacteria in the stomach and it takes months to get back to normal levels.  If you've had anitbiotics then definately follow up with a course of probiotics to get your gut flora back to good levels.

Omega 3 and 6 - proven to help maintain normal hormone levels and thus immunity


There are so many more things, but like I said try not to go overboard, try not to let it run your life, other people treat their bodies like crap and don't have outbreaks, for some reason we've just been unlucky with outbreaks so all we can do is try and give out bodies some help.

It's all down to the immune system. You want to get rid of the visible signs which is actually the easier part but keeping your immune system strong so it can maybe clear the virus.  A lot of people say it's forever but I believe the immune system can completely get rid of the virus if it is able to recognise it and remove all infected cells, unfortunately for me for some reason my immune system doesn't seem to recognise it very well for some reason, everyone is different.

Nutrition links:

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/antioxidants-your-immune-system-super-foods-optimal-health

http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/family-nutrition/foods-boost-immunity/8-foods-boost-immunity

Some links that may help you:

Support sites (lots of info on here):
http://www.hpvforum.com
http://www.*****************/c/HPV/forum
http://www.hpvsupport.com/phpBB3/

Info about the new theraputic vaccine for people who already have HPV:

http://info.vgxii.com/blog/bid/92476/Coridon-s-HPV-DNA-Vaccine-Shows-Promise-in-Preclinical-Trials








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Hey man,

Sorry to hear you have the same problems as I do.  At least we can take some comfort in knowing were not alone, there are thousands of people out there who have trouble shifting this virus so never feel alone.

I'll PM you my email, always good to share stories and learnings, see my post on here before, there's even more research I have on treatments, nutrition etc.

Bodies are still a mystery, I really hope they can produce a vaccine/treatment to target this so that all infected host cells can be destroyed by the body.  One day I believe they will.  This is something that affects rich/poor alike and it's spreading more every year.  When it affects the rich, you know that there will be money spent on research on this.

Here is a link to Dr. Ian Frazer's new treatment for existing infections, hopefully only a few years away:

http://info.vgxii.com/blog/bid/92476/Coridon-s-HPV-DNA-Vaccine-Shows-Promise-in-Preclinical-Trials


I will never give up fighting this thing, if it's fate to have it forever then so be it, but at least I know I tried to beat it and that gives me strength.  It's people who surrender who may as well roll up and die, I prefer the philosophy of fighting to the end, life's too short to curl up and bow down to this thing, I will never give up fighting.
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I'm taking nearly all of the vitamins and supplements you're taking. I used to take the  L-lyceine too but stopped as I replaced it with some Elderberry pills for the Winter to ward off colds. I have not had a wart in 10 months and feel like I beat it. I agree that it is the immune system which will defeat this thing. If I had one wish, I would wish for an accurate test for men. It sucks not knowing one's HPV health. This is supposed to be a man's world yet only women can get tested. WTF?
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Veryworried420, I'm also surprised there isn't a test for men. They say its because the risk for men is so small and limited and rarely know they're carriers, but men being aware of having something they don't have symptoms for could help prevent spreading it to women who are in greater risk of cancer from it. A lot of what is being done with HPV doesn't make sense to me.
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There is no test for men because there is no way to reliably test in men. Blood or urine doesn't work. What strain you have on one thigh could be different on the other thigh. DNA samples would have to be taken everywhere there is gential (genital) skin. Men are most likely carriers. HPV is the most common STD in the world and also considered to be a nuisance to some doctors. Drug companies could make billions if they provided accurate tests for men or vaccines to make the infected not infectious. Women's cancer health is the greater risk but this doesn't mean men do not have a cancer risk too. This is all very crazy.
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Out of curiosity, are your outbreaks too small to biopsy?  I understand they are being visually confirmed by your doctor(s), but people are fallible.  If it were me after this long, I'd insist on a biopsy to rule out hyper-inspection hypochondriac reactions.  Not saying that's what you're doing, but to be one of the super few who suffer from prolonged outbreaks, I'd be trying to rule everything out.  Good luck.  It sucks I know.  
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Hey Vandy,

I agree with you, they often treat men like it's nothing. What they don't realise is the emotional turmoil it can cause to any individual and to those who are in relationships.  I totally agree, there must be hundreds of thousands of people out there who are struggling because of misinformation and misdiagnosis, they could make so much money.

I will ask for a biopsy next time I go to the free clinic.  Unfortunately here in the UK free doctors see warts as almost a trivial thing so it's doubtful they'll take a biopsy but I may as well ask.

In my case I'm trying not to be hyperchondriac at all, but I'm pretty sure the recurrences I get are still warts, their just tiny, it's like the virus is weakened but not quite gone.  Everyone is different I suppose.

The problem is most people get a few recurrences and usually clear within 2 years, for people like me it's almost like they don't know what to suggest other than the usual freeze/podophilin methods but this only treats the visible signs.  I often feel like I know more about the virus, immunity and treatment options than any doctor I've met.

Here the health care is free but that often means that you're treated like a box on a conveyor belt, it's the old 'Ship em in, ship em out' quick mentality.  They don't even explain the virus to people, no wonder the virus gets spread about so much, people don't even know they are still contageous.

I'd pay a hansome price for a vaccine that treats existing carriers and helps the immune system to clear it.  I'm sure most people who can afford it would pay too.  I hope that they might find a general cure within the next 10 years so no one has to deal with this anymore.  

Anyway, I'll keep fighting this thing.  At least I'm 29 so my immune system might miraculously get off it's arse and lock it down one day, lol.
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Hey man, if you've been 10 months without an outbreak then that's a good sign. What treatment did you use?

I also think instead of just a test for the virus itself, they should do an immunity test, that way if someone has lower number of T-Cells etc. they can advise them on diet/exercise the right medication to increase immune function at the early stages.

When I first had an outbreak, I used to smoke on weekends, drink and didn't treat my health as well as I do now.  I also didn't have any advice for years on nutrition and supplementation to help my immune system.

I feel western doctors address the visible signs without addressing the underlying causes to why immunity is low etc.  

Well thankfully we have the internet and forums like these where we can share knowledge.

I'm trying Tagamet at the moment as I read it has helped younger children, teens and adults with treatment of normal and genital warts.  Tagamet is a anti-heartburn drug but a side affect is meant to be that it improves cell-mediated immune response be stopping T Suppressor cells, this is the immune response you want so that the TCells go 'on the hunt' for antigens and viruses.

At the same time, I'm trying one of these topical treatments too on the visible warts, it's called Wartcide,  Anyway never tried this approach before but I figure what the hell, something else I haven't tried.

I'll let you guys know if I have any success with this treatment.
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My outbreak lasted exactly a year with five recurrences in that year.  The last time I got slathered with pedophylin and never heard from those warts again.  I can't say it's the pedophylin or what.  Maybe I was a lucky textbook case.  One of my untested theories is that folks like you with long, atypical manifestations might have one of the rarer strains of HPV.  Since they are much rarer, this could explain why only a small percentage of folks have HPV behave this way.  Since each body reacts a bit different to the virus, perhaps some of those small percentage fight it off and others can't so well.  Just a theory.  In the UK, you might be able to appeal to your doctors sense of injustice that you have had HPV for so long that you are not like other typical cases.  Because your experience is atypical, this warrants a biopsy in your case.  I'd push hard and if they say no, rub your junk on their face!  
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Haha, good idea, threaten them with it, lol.

You make a good point, I could have one of the rarer strains.  I will ask for a biopsy, I am trying to get rid of these warts just one more time using a combination of all the supplements I'm taking plus Tagamet 800mg per day as well as Wartamine which contains apple cider vinegar, zinc, vit c, vit E, tea tree oil and some other stuff. I want to try treating it myself to treat both the visible symptoms and immune side of things for a while before going back to their normal methods of freezing/podophilin etc.

I am seeing some results on the visible signs at present from doing all of this. The visible warts have started to turn black which is always nice to see, hopefully not long before they drop off.  I think Apple Cider Vinegar definately can help on the visible signs but it's powerful stuff so it's important not to leave it on for too long and to allow rest days for normal skin to recover. I'm also hoping the Tagamet will produce a stronger cell-mediated response to the areas I'm treating and the t-cells will eradicate all infected cells. Fingers crossed but I'm not getting my hopes up.

If they come back after this time, then I'll go back and request a biopsy.  

Will keep you all informed of any further progress.
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how long did it take for you to see your first outbreak? I'm afraid I have a wart in my mouth and once used my saliva as "lube" for sexual entercourse and i'm afriad I have it below now....i've been to 4 doctors about this bump and no one feels its a wart but i have my concerns.
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I had a lot better luck with the Aldara when I first burned the warts off with salicylic acid.  The Aldara wasn't helping as well before using the acid, especially in certain areas. Yes, it's a bit more pain but it helped me.  You could also add Low Dose Naltrexone to your medication.  It helps boost the immune system.  In your case, I really don't think it would be enough of a benefit on it's own.  I tried it with a lot of herbal immune boosters alone and I didn't get any results.  I read the body doesn't properly identify some cases of HPV as a virus and doesn't attack it.  Somewhere I read, Aldara somehow tells your body to attack it again.

You're in the UK so Celebrex is also an option for you.  I recommend driving different combinations until you find something that works.

Imiquimod (Aldara) is a topical immune response cream, applied to the affected area. It causes less local irritation than podofilox but may cause fungal infections (11% in package insert) and flu-like symptoms (less than 5% disclosed in package insert).[13]
Sinecatechins (marketed as Veregen and Polyphenon E) is an ointment of catechins (55% epigallocatechin gallate[5]) extracted from green tea and other components. Mode of action is undetermined.[15] It appears to have higher clearance rates than podophyllotoxin and imiquimod and causes less local irritation, but clearance takes longer than with imiquimod.[13]

http://en.wikipedia org/wiki/Genital_warts#Management

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Hi Cardz,

I think I might have had a long incubation period with mine, I can't be certain who I got it from because I'd had several sexual partners including long term girlfriends before I had my first outbreak at 24.  I think I may have been incubating it for 2 years or more.  They say with long incubation periods it can take longer for the immune system to get on top of the virus, I guess because it's been in your system for so long the immune system doesn't react as aggressively to it or something.

I don't think you should worry about transmission with your saliva, from what I've read it's usually skin to skin contact that spreads the virus.  According to what I've read it's also rare for genital warts to spread to the mouth.

Try not to worry at this stage, until you know for sure what it is. It might even just be a benign cyst or a gland perhaps.  If you're really worried I would demand they take a very small biopsy so they can identify exactly what the lump is.

Let me know if that helps man, sorry I don't have all the answers but try not to stress and make sure you eat well, exercise, get enough sleep too that will all help your body.

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Hi test_dummy,

Thank for your post.  It's interesting you mention Salycilic acid.  I only ever had 1 wart on a finger when I was 19 once, long before I had genital warts. The salycilic acid worked very well with the normal wart. It is something I have considered too if Wartaming/Tagamet combination doesn't work.  Like you say it might be more painful but worth a try if all else fails.

I'll check out the Naltrexone and Celebrex too, I've not heard of those before but I'm open to trying anything that will help my immune system recognise this virus and wipe it out.


On a positive note, I have applied Wartamine and this has got rid of the visible signs.  I'm trying to continue with Tagamet (1 month in so far) as well as taking my vitamin supps and exercising as much as possible to give my immune system the best chance of finding and clearing this virus.

I'll let you know if any updates, thanks for your advice.
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I've had HPV for over 10 years. I've had warts under my nails, warts, on my hands, on my feet, in my genital area in my anus. It can most certainly make you feel down...especially when others notice them and make a face about how ugly they are. I'm a woman. I've had abnormal Pap smears. I've had abnormal cells removed from cervix. I had the Gardisille vaccine as well. I am still struggling to get rid of these warts. It's refreshing to hear I'm not alone. I sympathize greatly with anyone who is infected. I wish my warts would just go away. I took Tagamet for 4 months and it did absolutely nothing. I had Candida injections and it did nothing. Candida is supposed to rid the virus and boost your immune system. After 10 years of going through this, I feel like I've been to hell and back. The sexual partners I've had I told and they never got symptoms of any kind. But they could. I never thought that when I was having sex this was even an option to contract. When I was in high school it was never mentioned. But I think the most positive things that has come from it, is that you are naturally more careful, you can teach others, and you take your sexual/love life way more seriously. I wish everyone luck. I pray for a cure.
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Hi,

Thanks for sharing your experience. I do beleive there are rare cases like ours where our bodies just aren't very good at cleaning up the virus even though we may be healthy everywhere else. I beleive there is a genetic predisposition to how the immune system deals with the virus in some people.

It was never mentioned when I was in high school and collage (university) either. I didn't even know this existed. It's so common though, good to hear that at least you're still having sexual partners.  It's the same for me, as far as I'm aware none of my sexual partners have had genital warts. I pray to God I haven't passed this to anyone, I've always tried to wear protection at least.

You're right, it does make you more careful about who you have sex with and makes relationships mean more than they did. It can be nerve-wracking that first time you tell one, I still get nervous about going on dates and having to have the conversation but we've got to be brave, we are the ones who know what this is. Most people I've told family and friends alike are usually grateful for the knowledge and they accept that it's so common it's a lottery which strain you're gonna get.

If it's any hope I read this today, they are looking into developing vaccines to treat existing infections, this looks promising - http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/publications/headway/headway_summer_2013/a_new_therapeutic_vaccine_for_rrp_

I think within the next 5 years there maybe a really good therapy which can force the immune system to identify and target infected cells effectively killing the virus that causes visible strains of HPV including types 6 and 11.

Keep the faith, we've got to live our lives depsite this, it could always be a lot lot worse!
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I found your post online, I also have been battling warts for the past 6-7 years, honestly I did not see a Dr. until 2009. That was the first time I had them treated by a professional. Before that I would burn them off on my own. They always came back. Anyways I just wanted to follow up to see if you had any updates on you condition. Thanks.
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I found your post online, I also have been battling warts for the past 6-7 years, honestly I did not see a Dr. until 2009. That was the first time I had them treated by a professional. Before that I would burn them off on my own. They always came back. Anyways I just wanted to follow up to see if you had any updates on you condition. Thanks.
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We are new at this but have had success in 4 of 4 people so far with warts that had been significantly bothersome for long periods of time, The immune system is the key, we are using homemade tea from Wild Chaga and reishi mushrooms.  The mushroom tablets that u are using may not be very effective compared to a hot water extract from fresh wild harvested mushrooms, we haven't had anyone with genital warts try it yet so if this works for you please let us know. ***@****
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When you have recurrences- meaning the wart is treated, goes away, and then comes back in the same spot - how long does it usually take before that wart comes back?  Couple weeks?  Months?
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Hi, I'm 36 female and have been suffering 8 years with them. Did the creams, acid, freezing you name it I did it. But to no avail. My problem is I have a very compromised immune system. I have Systemic Lupus Erythematosus. Had it since I was 20. When I was going to the GUM clinics every week solid for 2 years I told them I suffered with SLE and was taking immune suppressants. And I was told on several visits that didn't matter to my treatment or to my genital warts. Even when I questioned why do I still have them after 2 years of cryotherapy? I was told I'm just unlucky and may have to live with them for the rest of my life. This news devastated me. Like you I haven't been able to date because of fear I may pass on my warts OR my partner may see them. I finally got a break through 18 months ago I went to see my rheumatologist for a routine check up. And she happened to mention that I looked fed up. I told her it wasn't the lupus causing me problems but my private parts. I told her my story and she listened very well and seemed very sympathetic. I thought she was just going to tell me what the GUM clinic tell me. But to my surprise she said I am going to refer you to the gynaecology department. I went a long to this appointment not expecting too much. I saw a consultant who told me because my immune system was compromised so much I didn't have the ability to fight off the warts, he then went on to say - so I think you need a little medical help. The following week I was booked in to theatre and I had all my warts surgically removed. I was so happy and relieved those horrible nasty warts had gone. that was 18 months ago and I've just started getting them back. So bad news I've got them back but the good news is I've been in touch with my specialist again and I already have an appointment booked for feb4th 2014 with the gyne dr again. I think for me personally this is how it's going to be from now on. I get the warts, get them surgically removed and have an 18th month break then do it all again. It's not ideal BUT for me just to have those 18 months free of them and free of stress is bliss. If I were you wartman123 I would go to your gp and ask for some routine bloods, make sure all is ok. Because you have had them for so long you could have something wrong with your immune system. And also ask your gp about surgery because you have had them for so long. Good luck and don't give up the fight

Sarah
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Hey wartman123,

I just wanted to write to you after your post was one of the most inspiring and relevant to me I found on the net after countless hours of researching HPV. I too am over 30 and have struggled with gen warts for around 5 years.  I was in a long term relationship since they first appeared so wasn't overly worried about them although that ended so I've been scrambling to really tackle them head on.

I too did a lot of vitamin taking and improved my diet along with loads of exercise... I'm a pretty healthy guy in general.  I was going to my GP to ask his advice and I went through the cryo freezing process a bunch of times which did absolutely nothing... they just grew back within a month.  The next process I tried was Cantharone or Cantharidin  (taken from the blister beetle), a fairly new remedy I believe.  I would ABSOLUTELY NOT recommend this to anyone as my experience with it was terrible.  It ended up making the warts turn into halo warts and grew about 4x in size each.  I was pretty desperate and miserable at this stage and ended up going to a different GP.

I know you've already discussed your lack of results with Aldara but have you tried Vyloma?  From what I understand, it's essentially the same thing... its main ingredient is the imiquimod 3.75% (same as Aldara).  He gave me 2 boxes of this and told me to apply it to the warts sparingly every second night before I went to bed.  I ended up cutting one end off a Q-tip each time which I found to be a quick/reliable applicator that you can throw away when you have put enough cream on.  I also didn't use too much of each sachet and sealed it with plastic film each night and was able to make 1 sachet last approx 4-6 treatments give or take.  Each box came with 4 sachets so that was somewhere in the vicinity of 20+ treatments over the course of 6 weeks'ish for 1 box.

After trying cryo, cantharone, loads of vitamins, good diet, less drinking, lots of exercise and not really having any results and finally using Vyloma I'm please to say the warts have completely disappeared!!  I only needed 1 box too, still have another left.

As I was getting into the 4th - 5th week of treatment, I found the vyloma was starting to work and the warts were starting to turn reddish in colour.  Eventually the just started to shrink away by themselves and have now completely vanished.  I still have some slight scarring and am now applying anti-scarring cream.  I found the treatment quick, easy and painless... some slight itching as the warts were starting to turn red if I recall correctly but that was it.  Nothing major at all for me.  The application process only took me around 2 mins before I fell asleep.

I realize you've had times where they've gone and re-appeared and understand I'm by no means in the clear yet as they've only been gone for 2 months but I have to say after 5 years with them it's a massive relief and I felt I wanted to share my story with you.

Maybe it's worth looking into imiquimod again?  My experience with it was definitely a good one.

All the best and hope this story helped you in your battle.  Thanks

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Are you still talking here? I've been dealing with outbreaks for over 7 years. I've tried all kinds of treatments. Even laser surgery. That doctor actually made it worse. The warts seem to be spreading now to other parts of my genitalia. This has got to be the most depressing thing I've ever dealt with. I've tried all kinds of vitamins and changing my diet. It seems keeping them moist then treating them has a slightly better affect but still no long term results. I rarely get sick and generaly have no other health conditions. I am in a high stress job and raise two kids on my own. I'm wondering if you have had any success and if you have any advise for me. Thank you
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First off, apologies for not having the answers to anyone's questions. I saw this post and was intrigued to read on. Like everyone that has posted, I too have dealt with, and are currently dealing with, genital warts. For the last 7 years I've had to deal with the constant worry of possible outbreaks and low self-esteem. I finally feel comfortable enough to share my experience with those of you that are willing to read on...

2007- I was having unprotected sex in a "committed" relationship. Upon finding out she had contracted HPV, her symptoms became visible in a short amount of time. I may have had a poor diet, used tobacco and drank from time-to-time, but I was very physically active. I believe being active allowed my body to keep the virus at bay for the time being.

Three years later I was not as physically active, I got a desk job, drank alcohol heavily, smoked marijuana on a daily basis, continued to use tobacco and had a very poor diet. About 7 months of living this lifestyle led to me noticing my first genital wart. Wow! Three years of dormancy before one popped up! Only weeks before noticing it, I had just got out of another relationship where I was sexually active and wore protection every time. I was also ill with a pretty intense stomach flu prior to noticing. My lifestyle was poor and my defenses were down even more.

By the time my appointment came to freeze off my genital wart, I had noticed 2 more small raised areas. The doctor told me that these were so small that that there may be a possibility that it wasn't HPV. What a load of s***! I was aware of the gravity of the situation, but the phone call a few weeks later regarding the biopsy results still felt like a punch in the gut!

After the warts were frozen off, I took a number of vitamins, one of which I believe was called Viral Free. I haven't been able to find it on the internet as of recent so I'm assuming it did not work and was discontinued. When I couldn't find a trace of anything wart-related, I quit taking the vitamins....

Ten months later, and to my knowledge wart free, I was sexually active again with a girl I ended up having a long-term relationship with. She was aware of my situation prior to us being sexually active. A few months into our relationship, she received an abnormal pap indicating she had HPV. It really took an emotional toll on me to have spread my problem to someone I love. I didn't know what to think. I hadn't had a visible outbreak since the freezing treatment. Her and I went back-and-forth between protected and unprotected sex. I also received oral sex and gave oral sex quite frequently. Not once during our relationship did she, or myself, have visible signs of a genital, or oral, wart. The only visible warts I had during our relationship appeared on the bottoms of my feet well into our relationship along with some odd bumps on my knees. Over 2 years now and the warts on the bottoms of my feet have yet to go away. Not 100% certain if these warts are due to the HPV virus.

This leads us to today - an odd correlation regarding my ongoing battle with HPV...

I have been celibate since June. Just like my first visible outbreak over four years ago, it is during my time of celibacy that I noticed a wart-like growth. A few weeks pass and I notice a couple more small areas upon shaving my genitals. Not saying by any means that celibacy incites genital warts! I'm just saying that it's odd that I only notice the visible signs of HPV when I am celibate. Could excessive masturbation incite genital warts somehow?

During my previous relationship I didn't exactly take care of my body. Rarely did I exercise, still had a desk job, still used tobacco, still drank from time-to-time. After my recent long-term relationship had ended, I began to exercise a bit in my spare time, cut down my use of tobacco and started to eat somewhat healthier. I was starting to physically feel better! But, my levels of stress were much, much higher. Just as you were saying in the previous response, frustr8ted, you are in a high stress job and raise two kids on your own. I rarely get sick and have no serious health conditions to my knowledge. Stress could be the determining factor in both of our cases.

With some help from the members of this site, and with a little research of my own, I am getting ready to start a regimen that will hopefully boost my immune system. I am still researching topical treatments. Cannot suggest one because I have yet to try one. If anyone has had success in using an over-the-counter cream or ointment of some sort, please PM me.

In no way am I saying that the regimen I'm going to share will necessarily work for me or anyone else but, damnit, it's worth a shot! Please take into consideration that this is not my department of expertise. Please consult your physician before taking any vitamins or supplements...

Currently doing -
Emergen-C in a bottle of water every morning
Multivitamin that includes Vitamins A, B6, B12, C, D3, E, Folic Acid and Selenum
Apple Cider Vinegar tablets
Gingko Biloba- maintains healthy circulation and just found out it may have antioxidant properties that may help fight free radicals in the body

Will be taking soon -
Olive Leaf Extract

Plan on adding this to my regimen as well-
Activia Yogurt for breakfast (contains probiotic)
Frozen Vegetables and a low-sodium V-8 between breakfast/lunch, with lunch, or between lunch/dinner
Cut down on fast food
20 min - 1 hr of exercise, 4-7 days a week
Cut down tobacco use
Only drink alcohol on occasion and in moderation
Drink plenty of water and cut out all sugar, mainly soda. Only drink Gatorade when sweating in excess.
6-8 hrs of sleep per night

This definitely isn't the best advice for someone looking to live the healthiest lifestyle possible, but it's a start considering my current lifestyle. Hitting the ground running hasn't had much success for me and I know that approach doesn't always work well for everybody in the end. If you're as committed as I know many of you are, once you get the ball rolling a healthier lifestyle will become second nature!

Also read up on AHCC (Active Hexose Correlated Compound) and was very, very interested. Looks like there have been some success stories in people with HPV. Problem is it may lower blood sugar. I fear I may be hypoglycemic so, unfortunately for me, I can't bring myself to try it. May be worth looking into for some of you.

In doing some internet research I also found this. Like I said, I'm not a doctor by any means, but it appears to be very beneficial in boosting the body's defenses: http://www.sourcenaturals.com/products/GP1345/

^^if anyone has had success with this, please PM me.

Hopefully, in reading all of these questions/stories, one of us can come up with the answer to all of our problems. Worrying about this can only make it worse. I know the person with the answer is out there. I am going to continue to stay optimistic and say that day is coming soon where we will have a cure! Until then, let's live our lives to the fullest each day and not allow this monster to deny us true happiness!

  

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Hi man,

So sorry for the late reply.

I want to say, I believe I'm wartfree and there is hope! It just takes longer with some of us but persistence pays off.

I did a ton of research in 2012-2013 and I believe with treatment of the visible signs as well as sorting your immune system you can give you body a really good chance at beating this thing.  I believe my body has cleared the virus now, pretty much 2-3 years without any major outbreaks.

I'm going to send you a PM so we can discuss this, I've been helping people 1-to-1 and sharing what I've done.

Speak to you soon.
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Please see my comment a few back,

See if your doctor can sort you out with Vyloma.  Do what I did as described above and see how it works for you.  I am now wart free for almost a year.  From starting the treatment it took about 6 pain free weeks to get rid of them and I had around 7 or so....

Good luck
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I also wanted to add that sometimes I wonder whether it was the girl I was seeing during the time I had the warts.  I first contracted them about 6 months after seeing her and we broke up 4 1/2 years later mid last year.  I started treating them at the end of last year and they've never grown back.  I'm wondering whether she was re-infecting me everytime we had sex .... they always grew back then.  However, I never used Vyloma during that relationship so that could also be the major factor of course.  Always good to theorize ..... I'm sure doctors would be the best people to comment on this thread with proper knowledge of different immune systems and how infections spread / are cured ... etc
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Hello,

I'm a gay man, in my mid-forties, based in London, UK.  I became infected with HPV back in 2009 (5 years ago) after just a skin-to-skin contact in the genital area (there was actually no penetrative sex at all). A few months after the encounter, I developed a severe outbreak of anal warts that was treated at a sexual health clinic. The treatment took nearly 3 months to complete and had another outbreak 5 (or so) months later, and a minor one 18 months later (Autumn 2010).

I was told that the infection tends to clear in 2 years' time but was never instructed that I should boost my immune system or given information on the severity of the virus. They only mentioned that warts are stubborn and that I may experience more outbreaks, that I had to be patient and let my body do its job. But like you cited in your posts, I deem there is a lack of awareness and knowledge of the HPV virus and its severity.

Time went by and took for granted that after 2 years' I'll be fine. Sadly, a month ago I started noticing lumps in my anus and decided to go to the health clinic last Monday, just to get confirmation that those lumps were effectively warts and that my infection has not cleared after all these years.

I tend to have a very healthy lifestyle: don't smoke, don't drink, have a healthy diet, drink loads of green tea, exercise regularly (3-5 times a week), etc. However my body has not got rid of the virus after nearly 3 years. I started treatment for the warts on Monday but my concern is that I have been doing some research and found links between persistent HPV infection and anal cancer, and must confess that my anxiety is growing.

I would very much appreciate if we could exchange information for me to learn from your research. After spending the last 3 days educating myself on HPV, like you, boosting one's immune system is the only hope.

Looking forward to hear from you.
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