misscarriage or not

[caitiegirl]

my daughter is 16.  We just found out she was pregnant 2 weeks ago when they did preliminary testing done for minor hand surgery.  Afterwards she ended up in the hospital with strep throat.  Her HCG level in the hospital on 2/26 was around 12,000.  On 2/27 and 2/28 she had a little spotting and a little monday 3/2.  On 3/5 she had an ultra sound which from her lmp she would be around 5weeks 1 day.  the tech said that she was 7-8 weeks and there was 2 embryos and no heartbeats and suggested we see the doctor before driving an hour home. Before she saw her doctor she had bloodwork taking. The doctors said that she misscarried. My daughter cried for 5 hours  The doctor called back and said her HCG tests was around 30,000.  Said that the ultra sound said probable misscarriage and they would re order some more blood test. We had that taken today at 11 at the local clinic.  Results not in.  Is it possible she is going to miscarry or is the ultra sound guy wrong with the gestational age and that it was just too early to see a heart beat?

[crissy578]

I am truely sorry for your daughters loss. Thankfully she has a great mother to help her heal where her heart hurts. Hugs for all........

[ArmyPrincess819]

I'm sorry for the both of you. She will be okay she has a loving mother helping her heal. Best wishes to you and her. I'm here for you both.....Give her my best!

Hugs,
AP

[smr08]

Veronica, I'm so sorry that things ended this way for Caitlin. You are a wonderful mom. Caitlin is going to need you more then ever now. This is something that she will live with in her heart forever, but in time she will heal. Sending hugs your way and praying for Caitlin's emotional recovery.

                                 Lori

[caitiegirl]

For those of you who dont know..Cait had an emergency d&c on Friday.  She came out of the surgery ok physically but not so good emotionally.  She had a rough bout this past weekend and Monday she went back to school.  She's riding the roller coater ride of emotions now.  I just keep telling her to take it day by day, and each day take it step by step.  Pray and give God all your doubts, fears, anger, anxiety and sorrow.  She seemed a little more relaxed last night.  Thanks for all your cares, hope, prayers, and love as we continued down this unfullfilled journey that ended.  This is something I'm sure she'll remember the rest of her life.  May God bless all you with peace, love and hope

Veronica and Caitlin

[steph9803]

I will keep your family in my thoughts and prayers....I hope everything is okay..I hope she doesn't have to go through such a loss at such a young age :( *hugs*

[caitiegirl]

talked to Caits first doctor that saw her in the emergency room with strep.  She's agreed to continue caits care. I told her about everything that happened with the other doctor too.  She ordered another round of test for Tuesday and another ultra sound.  Cait has agreed if the numbers are not increasing and the ultra sound doesnt show anything different that she'll consider help with the m/c.  its been quite a battle..Hope all is well with everyone here.  She finally went back to school today!  Thankyou all for your prayers and kind thoughts and words
Veronica and Cait

[munter]

Sorry to hear that yoor daughter and you have to go through all this. It's hard but try and keep all hope. I had a m/c Oct last year my HCG levels were low from the beginning and was told early on that i was going to m/c. My levels were only going up slowly and then they dropped and then went up again and i had docotrs saying i've m/ced and then tell me i may still have a viable pregnancy. All the mixed messages i was getting gave me a headache to from the stress and i thought if i don't m/c from the low levels i will through stress. Anyway at 6 weeks i m/ced. I am now 15 wks preg again and they were keeping a god eye on my levels and they weren't doubling like they should either at the start so all the worry kicked in again but so far so good. All the scans have come back fine.
Anyway try to keep some hope especially until when or if she starts bleeding.
Your daughter is so lucky to have a loving supportive mother.

[smr08]

Oh I'm so sorry this is happening. Will you try to see another Dr.? Sometimes it's good to get a second opinion, especially in a situation like this. My heart goes out to both you and your daughter. Please, if you need to talk you can PM me anytime......Lori

[caitiegirl]

just got back from the OB.  Caits hcg level is still around 29000 but the doctor says she will miscarry.  He was kinda cold.  Cait says nope!  he said if she dont start bleeding in a week to call the office. Said that the baby is along far enough to have a heartbeat. Guess we will take it day by day and if she starts bleeding we will know.  I dont know what to think...confused, sad,

[GMB08]

i have been thinking about the both of you...and think its wonderful that you are such a supportive mother! keep us posted

[smr08]

Good luck to you both. My prayers are with you!

[caitiegirl]

Today is another day!  We go to the OB!  We will be leaving in the next couple hours. We had a good day yesterday, though cait had a bit of a headache still and is stuffy. She's missed alot of school.  Good thing she's self disciplined about it.  Has been having people bring her homework to the house and getting notes she missed.
Will leave an update later today

[youme123]

Thank you for giving us the update - I have been thinking about you and your daughter.  Of course you don't know what to process - there is so much emotion and information being given to you, it's hard to know what to think.  At this point, it's probably time to start finding ways to take things one day at a time.  My DH told me that last night.  At the time it sounded so easy for him to say, but it makes sense. There's really nothing we can do to control these situations - we can only do what helps to make us feel better and try to do the things that can help the situation.  Every day is new, and each test is new.  Find ways to keep each other occupied. I'm trying to do this myself.  I had lunch wtih my son, his friend and his friend's mom.  It helped a lot to get out, and I found out my friend had a chemical pg in January, and she knows exactly what I'm going through!  It's amazing how through interaction you can find compassion.  You are both in my thoughts, and please keep me posted.  

[caitiegirl]

Cait didn't go to school today.  Shes exhausted and still continues with a headache.  No cramping no bleeding.  Tomorrow we hopefully will get some news either way.  Thanks for all your support

[smr08]

I'm sorry to hear what you and your daughter are going through. The wait is the hardest. I will keep you both in my prayers and hope for the best. Please let us know how things go on Thursday....................... Lori

[caitiegirl]

  We just returned home from the ER.  Cait's numbers dropped from 33000 yesterday to 29000 today.  Everything is still there.  They had another US done.  1 sac, 2 Fetal poles, and yet no heartbeats. Cervix is closed and no bleeding, and has a headache (maybe from all the stress)  Gets her HCG level tested again thursday and see OB.  Not sure yet what to process myself.  Hoping and praying for the best. Expecting the worse.  She's going back to school tomorrow

[youme123]

Thank you for your well-wishes - just concentrate on your daughter right now, and please let me and all of us know how she is doing.  I will be waiting anxiously to hear from you.  I will keep my fingers crossed and good luck!

[caitiegirl]

sorry that you had to go through that alone.  We are getting ready to head to the hospital.  Will keep you posted.
Much love and thanks

[caitiegirl]

Caits Doctors office called this morning.  Seems her blood work last week was 28,000 and something and they rounded it.  Her blood level yesterday was 33,000 and something.  I"m taking her to hospital where I can have her seen by an OBGYN.  She had a rough night last night and I"m not happy with this other doctor.  I'm praying all is well!

[youme123]

Good morning, and I hope it's a little better today.  I am only online certain times of the day, as I have my son during the days, and I work two of the days while my DH's parents come to watch him.  Sorry it's taken me so long to reply.  Well, my m/c started last night, the same day I got my negative after the BFP over the weekend.  I actually didn't see my OB yesterday; I went to a Patient First (if you don't have those near you, it's a 24-hour type full-service mini hospital associated with one of the really big ones here).  Anyway, they took the blood test, told me it was negative and to wait the week to see if I naturally m/c - then they told me to call my OB in a week.  So, I of course, called my OB right away when I got home, and she said the same thing - it's probably a m/c with my symptoms - wait a week to see if I naturally m/c then call.  I guess I'm naturally having one, though I really don't know what to expect.  Thankfully there are so many amazing women on this site to give me the guidance I need.  For me, I lost my appetite on Sunday, my stomach felt "weird" - kind of doughy and bloated.  My mood changed dramatically (but I still had sore breasts and felt a little pg if that makes sense).  Then, gradually the pg feeling went away throughout the day yesterday, which I guess was the final moment before the m/c.  Major cramping last night, but if there's a silver lining, I could take 800mg of ibuprofen, and that helped a lot.  I still have zero appetite (in fact, it feels like I could never eat again), and I feel generally like I'm having the largest pd of my life.  I still don't have sage advice to give you, unfortunately, having only gone through this trauma for the first time.  I'm just happy you are there with your daughter.  I still crave talking to my mom, but she's ill and I don't want to make her sad.  I'm so hopeful I can give her another grandchild some day soon.  I'm 37 years old, so I'm not getting any younger.  Your daughter is so lucky to have you there.  Hang in there and hold on to each other.  Love to you all.  Please keep me posted.  I want to be here for you, too.    

[Jen8950]

When I went to my doctor the first time I was around 6.5 wks, and they seen nothing. I went back 2 weeks later and there was a heartbeat.

[caitiegirl]

Waiting on DR to call.  She had an uncomfortable night.  Hot and then Cold and vomit last night.  Sounds a little stuffy.  Waiting to see what her blood numbers are.  Thanks for all your supports

[crissy578]

I would think that it might be too early to see an embryo or hear a heartbeat. I would think that since her numbers have been incresing that everything is fine. Did your daughter have no indication that she was pregnant? I know this has to be hard for you, and especially hard for her, but sometimes miscarriages are misdiagnosed. Definitely go back for another ultrasound.

[ArmyPrincess819]

Honestly it could be a number of things. Not to upset you but my numbers rose while I was in the er having my last m/c. However I always have low numbers and early pg bleeding. I have had techs with this pg mess up my dates by 6 wks I find out tomorrow what my final due date is and I"m 21 wks. I would ask for another u/s and a 2nd opinion. I read that you had her bloodwork done at a clinic I would schedule and app with a obgyn and maybe you can get some answers. The numbers my dr told me are not and exact science but should  double at least every 48-72 hrs. Also if your dr has an irregular cycle she may not be as far along as she thought. Best wishes to you I hope you find out what is going on sooner than later. Take care..
AP