I have had the exact same thing happen to me. I already have seizures that I take I take a daily medication for. When I had this happen a couple weeks ago the neurologist determined that it was what they call a tonic seizure. So if you are having these things happen, you need to go to a neurologist and have an EKG or EEG done on your brain to see if you are having seizures. I was not diagnosed with seizures until I was in my 30s. For years I always thought, as did many doctors, that it was low blood sugar but it was actually temporal seizures. Be safe and sure. Your brain is nothing to play with.
My daughter is experiencing many of the same symptoms as many people on this site. She was just ordered to wear a heart monitor by her doctor. We are extremely concerned. Have you found out anything since your last post.
I’ve had these same experiences multiple times over the last 20 years. It matches what everyone else has said so I won’t repeat the story, but has always accompanied vomiting or diarrhea or both. The most recent occurrence was a few weeks ago, nausea and the claw-hands started. I gagged myself with a toothbrush to induce vomiting before I lost control of my hands completely, and the claw-hands reversed almost immediately. This may not work for everyone, some of your stories say it happened after you vomited, but if this is happening and you haven’t vomited yet try inducing it.
Reading all the similar yet different experiences makes me wonder if it isn’t just one cause, or one answer. It seems to always correlate with stomach issues but under different circumstances. I’ve had the claw-demon take over my entire body- arms, legs, stomach, back, neck, face and tongue so I couldn’t speak. After having diarrhea it reversed course. I’ve also had severe vomiting and diarrhea and not had this happen at all, so it may be circumstantial or a combination of factors we haven’t figured out yet.
It’s a relief (in a way) that some of you have gone to the ER during these episodes and your vitals are good. Although terrifying and painful, knowing I’m not actually in danger helps it feel less scary.
Just had it happen to me. Had been feeling odd for the last 24 hours, felt somewhat better Kate evening and went out to try and mow our backyard. Finished and was very nauseous and dizzy and I hadn't had anything to eat all day. Went 8nside and sat in AC and then felt sicker and moved to the bathtub. My stomach began to hurt in a poop and throw up way and I did both. However after throwing up in the bath, my finger and hands began to tingle. It progressed very quickly to what felt like waves of vibrations in my forearms and hands and tingling like they had no blood flow and then like when your hand or arm goes to sleep. Then it felt painful and the waves were worse and started in my lower legs the same way. Seconds later my fingers and hands started to retract backwards toward my bicep and I could feel them or move them. It was like they were locked up like a muscle cramp but asleep and numb at the same time. I was freaking out and asked my wife to open my hands which she could but it hurt bad and they would shut again on thei own. I felt the same sensation. In my neck and felt it slightly affect my throat and speech and I asked for help out of the bathtub because I thought i was going to drop and fall into the water. I got out and could barely walk and made it to the bed and laid on my back and I got sips of water from my wife because I couldn't grasp anything. I ate a peanut butter cracker and had sips of water and 9ver about 30 to 45 minturs it got better. .My wife wanted me to go to the ER at my wirst.in the bath but I said to wait. I got feeling back in legs and arms and hands mostly and went back into the bath to lay down as I tried Gatorade and water and gold fish. Was feeling better but then had the dizzy nausea feeling and called for my wife and then I threw up in the bath 4 to 5 times and lost all the fluid and stuff I ate. Seconds later the intense waves started in my fingers hands and arms and everything went numb again. However this time no clenching or retracted hands and fingers folding back like a backwards claw. I had a little in my feet but mostly after about 10 minutes this time it went away 95 percent. After finding this thread and reading and based off what happened to my I'd say it had to be lack of food and fluids I had the last 24 plus hours, maybe heat stroke, and motion sickness pushing the mower around. I think all combined with an electrolyte imbalance and dehydration and it was far worse this time. Hopefully this helps someone searching for an explanation. On a final note, my fingers and hands now hurt like I over worked them to failure. You can tell I had been gripping something tightly to failure. Aaron from Texas
Just had it happen to me. Had been feeling odd for the last 24 hours, felt somewhat better late evening and went out to try and mow our backyard. Finished and was very nauseous and dizzy and I hadn't had anything to eat all day. Went 8nside and sat in AC and then felt sicker and moved to the bathtub. My stomach began to hurt in a poop and throw up way and I did both. However after throwing up in the bath, my finger and hands began to tingle. It progressed very quickly to what felt like waves of vibrations in my forearms and hands and tingling like they had no blood flow and then like when your hand or arm goes to sleep. Then it felt painful and the waves were worse and started in my lower legs the same way. Seconds later my fingers and hands started to retract backwards toward my bicep and I could feel them or move them. It was like they were locked up like a muscle cramp but asleep and numb at the same time. I was freaking out and asked my wife to open my hands which she could but it hurt bad and they would shut again on thei own. I felt the same sensation. In my neck and felt it slightly affect my throat and speech and I asked for help out of the bathtub because I thought i was going to drop and fall into the water. I got out and could barely walk and made it to the bed and laid on my back and I got sips of water from my wife because I couldn't grasp anything. I ate a peanut butter cracker and had sips of water and 9ver about 30 to 45 minturs it got better. .My wife wanted me to go to the ER at my wirst.in the bath but I said to wait. I got feeling back in legs and arms and hands mostly and went back into the bath to lay down as I tried Gatorade and water and gold fish. Was feeling better but then had the dizzy nausea feeling and called for my wife and then I threw up in the bath 4 to 5 times and lost all the fluid and stuff I ate. Seconds later the intense waves started in my fingers hands and arms and everything went numb again. However this time no clenching or retracted hands and fingers folding back like a backwards claw. I had a little in my feet but mostly after about 10 minutes this time it went away 95 percent. After finding this thread and reading and based off what happened to me I'd say it had to be lack of food and fluids I had the last 24 plus hours, maybe heat stroke, and motion sickness pushing the mower around. I think all combined with an electrolyte imbalance and dehydration and it was far worse this time. Hopefully this helps someone searching for an explanation. On a final note, my fingers and hands now hurt like I over worked them to failure. You can tell I had been gripping something tightly to failure. Aaron from Texas
Thank you for posting this!! I cannot find anything similar on the internet to what I experienced today. Sorry I don't have an answer but I just wanted to share this experience in case it helps find similarities. I just got out of a 14 day quarantine for traveling into a country Saturday. Meals were prepared 3 times a day and I drank only water and two cups of coffee a day, each day. I got out and drank beers and vodka mix drinks at dinner and two small cups of coffee in the mornings. I worked in an office all day (12 hours) on Monday. A little anxious to work because I was locked up for 14 days but not fatigued. I did not eat or drink anything after 1130am and caught a cab to go to the store across town. A little hungry but not starved. As we drove off I was looking at my phone trying to set up the payment and I started feeling car sick... I never, ever, get car sick. I stopped looking at my phone and started looking out the window. Nausea came hard and quick. I was sweating like crazy like I was hungover and about to puke. I started preparing my back pack to throw up but got the driver to pull over. When he did I took my mask off and stood on the side of the highway and tried to let it out but didn't. I also noticed my hands locked up out of nowhere in a weird way. My thumbs were extended and up against my fingers. Imagine a sock puppet with his mouth closed. I had to physically open them with the opposite arm because I couldn't do so on my own. I stood breathing calmly and RFD sweating stopped but my hands were still stuck. I got back in the cab and we continued to the location. All the while I'm on my phone, awkwardly holding it and using my locked up hand to type. Everything I read about the symptoms seemed scary. But I hung on low sugars or something so I immediately grabbed a coke and some chips to hold me over for the moment. My hands weren't as stiff but they relaxed in the same pose. Not like a normal, opened fist with the thumbs to the side. I quickly did what I had to do in town and went back. No additional nausea since I was out of the cab next to the highway but my hands still relaxed funny. I told my friends and they said drink some water and it should help. I downed a whole bottle then 3 cups at dinner. By the time we were done my hands were back to normal.
It took less than 5 minutes for it symptoms to go into full effect. 5- 10 for the nausea to clear. And about two to three hours before my hands went back to normal.
I take prescription strength iron supplements because I have low iron levels (not anemic though or a woman). I took a D2 prescription strength the morning prior. Supposed to take two a week for a few weeks but I was slacking. I take daily multivitamins and additional B12. I even ate a banana that morning by coincidence.
It had to be associated with dehydration. I didn't drink any water outside of what comes with coffee. And I did have one extra super strong cup of a friend's French press coffee. Instead of normal instant coffee. I thought that was what may have got my stomach kind of off in like an acidic kind of way. But that was at 10 on the morning.
I know this was long and drawn out but I wanted to share the details of the day leading up to the symptoms. I hope this helps and I hope we find an answer.
I have just had this happen. My fingers are still weak to the point where I am having to speak this instead of type it. I was in a zoom meeting and all of the sudden started feeling extremely sleepy. I have narcolepsy so this isn't abnormal for me, but it got to the point where I didn't think I could stay awake. I turned off my camera for a second and realized how dizzy I was and having trouble breathing. When I got up to get a drink of water I was beginning to black out the entire time, I got the water down and then I guess I went down all the way. When I stood up again I felt very hot, went to turn down the AC. I started thinking maybe I had the flu so I closed the zoom meeting completely and I went to the bathroom, still kind of blacking out as I was walking. When I threw up I threw up all clear. And it was not very much, once I threw up the nausea went away completely. but I realized my arms were freezing cold and it felt like I had had a shot of Novocaine in them all over, like going to the dentist but in my arms. That got worse for about 10 minutes, and I had some numb feeling in my face and forehead as well. Once I realized it I turned on a heating pad and put my arms down on it cuz I was freaked out and thankfully it didn't progress into what other people describe here. but I was concerned if it was a heart attack or stroke etc. My arms currently feel normal but I have extreme weakness in my hands which is why I had to write this with voice to text, and still a little bit of trouble getting a deep breath. My forehead still feels a little strange and having my eyes open is tiring but who knows. I have a bottle of Gatorade but I can't open it
I've had these types of experiences for years and seems like they got worse over the years but never happened enough for a doctor to think it was serious. Then I developed severe anxiety due to my son having anaphylactic food allergies and I started to over analyze every sensation I had after eating. I would almost pass out after having a bite of anything suspicious. But separate from that I would wake up feeling cold, and fearful with stomach cramps, get up to go to the bathroom and pass out as I sat on the toilet. Vomiting. Waking up to my husband saying I was making crazy noises. Anyway, I was diagnosed with very low B12 around 250, 5 years ago and only ever took vitamin supplements to correct and didn't have it rechecked until recently and it was still extremely low now 5 years later, 250. This can cause all kinds of physical as well as neurological problems. So get yours checked and know it can be low but not low enough to signal the doctor but still cause major problems. I was also very low in iron. My B12 is back to normal around 850 but I had to have B12 injections every week for a few months. Some people can't absorb B12 when taken internally, it has to be given through the blood.
I don’t have an answer but just had the exact same thing happen this morning with stomach cramps and gas pains and have had about a year apart this happen. My mouth curled up and I couldn’t talk and my whole body seized up.
Dont know whether my story relates but I too had vomiting sensation, knew that vomit was going to come out so ran to the wash room even though while walking the passage was rotating in front of me, i couldnt reach the wash room in time and some vomit went back in. After vomit the first thing I realised is that my intake of food and water mechanism functioning has stopped and immediately notuced the normal reflux of the mouth for eating and drinking was not functioning. I could spit out but could not take in any food or water, i thought it will correct itself but next day i found that the same. Also facial distortion started after that which was diagnosed as Bell Palsy and was in the hospital for 5 days all battery of test done CT scan,MRI, 2D and 3D Echo, blood tests, Sonography, lipid profile, ENT, Gastro,ECG, etc all were normal first diagnised with Bell Palsy after 5 days still informed that diagnoses not completed. I informed doctors that it was acute gastritis due to which vomitting hapenned and that i had H Pylori infection which could not be resolved after more than 23 years, was diagnised with antral gastritis with erosions, e histolytica in one report next report no ehistolytica, herpes virus infection HB always below since blood in spittum always there due to Antral Gastritis wo erosions. Still nothing diagnosed. Even now left side of body touch sensation is there, can walk, talk and right side if body perfectly normal. Major issue not able to eat and drink anything and left side of body decreased body sensation. Could anyone help out
This is an other article I found:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5121772/
I have been experiencing the same thing as most off you describe and I found this online. Hope non off us suffer from it, but maybe something to look in to. https://www.webmd.com/epilepsy/guide/abdominal-epilepsy-in-children-and-adults
After doing some research, I discovered this tingling/numbness issue may be something called Tetany, which is a calcium/electrolyte deficiency that causes muscle cramps/contractions - often in the hands and feet.
I'm not 100% sure, but this seems to make the most sense.
Here is a link describing it or you could just google it.
https://www.healthline.com/health/tetany
This just happened to me. I woke up at 2 AM vomiting and diarrhea work from when I believe was from food poisoning. But my hands were pulled in and I could not move them I felt paralyzed. I have been drinking Pedialyte and eating bananas and drinking seven up and I do feel better. However I have not gone to the doctor yet. All of your responses do help to know that there is something that I should look into deeper. My family has a history of autoimmune disease.
I'm so happy I found this page! My partner went through this tonight. He's been out at work in hot weather all day, only had breakfast and a 2ltr bottle of vimto to drink all day. It gets to 7.30 pm and he asks me to start tea as he was hungry, so I did. Half way through cooking tea he starts to complain of really strong stomache cramps. He goes to the toilet and has serious s**ts. 10 mins later he says hes feeling sick. He goes back to the loo and once again has serious s**ts. Then while doing that he starts to violently be sick. He then passes out on the floor. He was out for a good 10 seconds (may not sound alot but actually felt a life time considering I didn't know what was wrong with him) when he finally came round his hands where all cramped up and he kept saying they felt numb and he couldn't feel his feet.
After 15 mins he was back on the toilet. This time I couldn't leave him as once again his hands cramped and he looked like he was going to pass out again.
It took around half an hour for his hands and feet to start feeling normal again. But he carried on going to the toilet on and off while being sick most of the night.
This is the second time this has happened how ever he never passed out the first time and this time he was alot worse.
Reading through various comments on here this seems to be more common than I expected.
A few replies had me thinking.
1: yes I do think he was dehydrated as drinking a fizzy drink just isn't good anyway!
2: I think he's over worked and stressed
3: I feel hes lacking certain vitamins.
One things for sure it was scarey as hell to see my man like that passed out and cramped up. He's off to the doctors first thing for a vitamin D check too as that's what causes my numbness and blackouts.
Five days ago I awoke feeling nauseous. I stayed in bed a bit longer, then felt abdominal cramping. In the bathroom I had some loose stools and then severe abdominal pain. I started vomiting which was mostly dry heaves, then both arms went completely numb and my hands clenched into a frozen position. We called 911, and they arrived in less than ten minutes. By then the numbness and hand clenching had subsided. All vitals including an EKG were normal. I declined transport to the hospital, but an hour later I went to the ER with pain again which was possibly a kidney stone. There is still no explanation for the numbness, but a common theme I see here is vomiting.
So I posted one back and just wanted to follow up because it seems people still find this page often.
a couple of days after my episode I got so sick I couldn't even get out of bed to go to the doctors. After sleeping for almost 2 days straight I managed to get enough energy to go. They took a bunch of blood samples and found my vitamin D was dangerously low and starting to effect my thyroid. Everything else people have suggested to cause this hand paralysis, like electrolytes and vitamin b was normal. Honestly I thought it was Lymne disease and thank god it wasn't. So the only conclusion I can draw at this point is somehow a combination of dehydration, lack of vitamin D and the extreme nausea triggered some kind of temporary nerve blockage to my hands.
I have to go on prescription supplements for a few months, so I was suggest getting your blood tested for anyone this happens to again.
Omg thank you for posting this. I just had a similar experience and thought I was dying. I get motion sickness a lot and there are certain types of cars that I can't even be in. I was a passenger in my friends car that I know I can always expect motion sickness. My nausea became so bad that I didn't know what what would happen next - then all of a sudden my hands became tingly and soon after they started to become numb. I started to feel it spread to my tongue when I started to freak out. we were on the highway so we couldn't just pull over. I have a history of panics attacks so I assumed it was just that. However I have not had an anxiety attack in almost a year and it felt different - like I didn't have the usual outer body experience i usually have when experience a panic attack, it just felt it was actually physical rather than in my head. Also with a panic attack I have never felt need to go to the hospital and with this experience I felt like I needed to go to the ER immediately. Luckily, this girl is practicely my sister and I had no problems sharing everything I was experiencing. I tried to shake it off but it got worse so I decided to stop moving completely. I started to instruct her the fastest way to get to a hospital but by the time we pulled off the highway it started to subside. The strangest part was that when my hand numbness got severe my nausea vanished. Almost like that's what it had to do to correct itself. Once I got to my destination I immediately stretched and within 30 min I felt completely normal.
Anyways, by the number of responses I'm surprised there aren't more websites that mention this motion sickness side effect.
Today I accepted I can never go on a cruise or into outer space.
Last weekend I woke up around 9am with a significantly bloated abdomen, pain in my upper and lower abdominal area, diarrhea, nausea, and sensitivity all over my body. I stayed in bed all day unless I was rushing to the bathroom. I would start sweating so heavily my hair was soaked and then I would get goose bumps and start shivering so hard my teeth chattered.
My husband and daughter weren't home and wouldn't be until around 10pm. My stomach hurt so bad and even though I kept making trips to the bathroom, it remained really bloated. Around 5pm I threw up. Around 7pm I was throwing up while having diarrhea.
After this final time that I threw up I could feel my face numbing and it felt like my eyelids were trembling. I turned to look in the mirror and saw that my face was actually sagging! Then I started feeling this extreme tingling coming down my face and neck and going all the way down my arms. My arms cramped up and my fingers were like super flexed. Some were sticking straight out and others were curled up. I thought I was going to pass out so i got down on the floor so I wouldn't crack my head open if I fell. My phone was in there on the floor with me and I was finally able to pick it up after several tries and hit speed dial for my husband. When he answered I tried to ask him to come home but it was like my tongue wouldn't do what I wanted it to and I sounded really odd. This scared the hell out of me and my poor husband who rushed home. I dropped the phone and lay on the bathroom floor for about 15 minutes waiting for him stuck in that position and then it started going down my left leg and it cramped up too. My foot flexed and I could not make any of it stop.
Finally after about 30 more minutes everything started relaxing. My husband really wanted me to go to the hospital or call an ambulance but honestly, I was so exhausted after being in that position for so long I could not imagine leaving the house. I am 40 and I'm super healthy. As I recently had a physical and blood work, I decided if I still felt badly the following day, I would go to the Dr then. That was a very stupid thing for me to think and do. I know realize this. However, I did feel better the next day and have not gone to be checked out yet. From what all of you are saying I probably wouldn't have actually been diagnosed anyway.
Scary stuff.
I am having very similar episodes. I have had 3 in the last 9 days. I woke in the night at 1 in the morning with severe abdominal pain. I went to the bathroom, thinking that I would diarrhea. As I sat down and began to diarrhea, my entire abdomen and arms went numb and tingly. It felt like limbs when they “fall asleep”. My face, neck, and lips began to tingle as well. I went to get toilet paper and my hands became stiff, fingers outstretched, and they were completely paralyzed. The paralysis lasted about 10 minutes and then I called 911. They found nothing abnormal at the ER, but my neck and face stayed tingly for several hours after the episode. My bloodwork, brain MRI, and cervical spine MRI were normal.
Since then I have had random numbness in my arms, hands, and abdomen. I have also had two more episodes in the night --- I wake up with numb arms, and begin shaking and jerking/twitching for about ten minutes. Then when it stops I still feel strange, hot and cold and jittery. But I never lose consciousness.
For about two months I have had nerve pain in the base of my skull/neck. And regular abdominal pain. Doctors have no answer.
WOW. My husband is going through the same thing this very MINUTE! and I think your other symtoms are also related. he has been getting migraines like, everyday this past two weeks!!. He literally thought he was dying. We were terrified because his mother has had a cancerous tumor her brain stem and she would have terrible migraines. He doesnt have insurance now and dont know what to do. He is also experiencing random like shocks or like a shiver. He said the pain comes in waves. He will bust out in a sweat and will get goosebumbs Often. I am scared and it is so hard when he has a moment, he will pretty much be paralized and cant talk. Please someone let me know what I can do for him.
I am so glad to have found this forum!
I really thought I was dying and I would not see my family again...which did not help :0/. The only thing different with me is (I had severe diarrhea from 5:30 am to about 11 am the next day) that at 3 pm the first day, my body was in so much pain (aching), I took a 40 minute jacuzzi in very hot water. I then showered immediately after to wash my hair and during that my arms started feeling tingly and I was getting dizzy/faint (I have fainted many times), so I grabbed the bar and stood there a second. Stepped out of the shower and on to the toilet (yes, dreaded dirrahea, again). I sat there a few minutes and my arms were still tingling. I stood up and started to the living room and got very winded, so I headed back to bed....I felt like I was hyper ventilating, I was crying, and my arms were tingling very severely now. I made it to the bed, barely and dropped. My hands began to tighten up. I tried calling my husband (he was at work) and got the call to go through. By the time my husband got home (10 min) my hands were clenched up and my arms were not moving (all pulled tight into my torso) and the tingling was like nothing I have felt! I tingling then proceeded to my legs. I really thought I was having a stroke! My whole tingling, ridged hands, severe tingling in arms and legs, lasted about 1/2 an hour.
My husband took me to the doctors, they thought I was having a stroke also. After talking, they slowed up a bit and said a stroke was probably not the case. They did blood work: potassium, A1C, sodium, liver check, ect...all came back normal.....no explaination.
I have a couple things going on that might have contributed:
1. I have some nerve pain in my neck that I have been dealing with. RIght side, sharp pains down my shoulder to my arm /fingers and up my neck to my head, jawline, and from my neck down my back.
2. I get migraines frequently.
3. And for a number of years I have had RIGHT SIDE ONLY PAIN. From Migraines down to my joints in my toes. Mostly joint pain.
My husband thinks that there might be a connection there? If anyone is dealing with any of these issues, do you think they may be related? I am leaning towards dehydration, but not convinced. But reading these stories helps to settle me a bit!
This is the only place online that I've been able to find any similar accounts of what has happened to me now three times, under 3 very different circumstances. Hopefully these stories will help others to avoid this terrifying ordeal!
The first time this "hand cramping" happened to me, it was not preceded by nausea. I had been visiting my then-boyfriend in France, and consuming copious amounts of wine and very little amounts of water. Mid-intercourse, I felt my lips and face begin to go numb. Then, my arms and legs... Before I knew it, my hands had retracted into a stiff, clenched form. We both panicked, and my boyfriend quickly put me into the hot shower, where I began to work out the cramping in my hands. Because it was the first time this had happened, I just assumed it was the funky position I had been in. Little did I know, it was because I was over-dehydrated.
The second time this happened was after my Bachelorette party. I exhibited all the symptoms of these other posters - extreme nausea / vomiting & IBS, then tingling, then cramping, then extreme clenching. Luckily, my father is a surgeon and knew immediately that I was dehydrated and lacking electrolytes. Gatorade and saltine crackers saved my life that day...
The third time just happened this past weekend, which led me to this research. I was getting tattooed on my hip, and the painful part (shading) really started to get to me. I began to clench my hands in fists - and before I knew it, the "hand paralysis" had set in within minutes - only this time, it was over my entire body. I could not speak, I could not move my hands, or my legs. It was so extreme that we had to stop for the day. I have been re-hydrating and feel much better, but I am still sore and shaky from that day.
MORAL OF THESE STORIES : STAY HYDRATED, MY FRIENDS. Water and electrolytes help to keep your body in balance. This super-scary occurrence is usually avoidable! Good luck!
WOW The same thing happened to me and I am super happy to see I am not the only one! In my case, I was at a party the night before so I consumed lots of alcohol and woke up with a terrible hangover and nausea.
We had stayed at a friend's place that night so we got on the car to go home and that's when it all started. I started feeling super nauseous and powerless like I couldn't even hold my head up. Then I felt this tingling feeling in my hands, then in my legs and in face and soon after I realized I wasn't able to move my hands and my face properly!
Obviously I freaked out and told my husband to drive to a hospital. He thought I was exaggerating (and I think he still does to this day lol) but drove to the hospital anyways. The moment we entered the hospital car park I couldn't hold it anymore and vomited (luckily my husband had the time to stop the car and I puked outside haha) and that was it. All of a sudden all that tingling and numbness passed.
Since I didn't wanted to wait in the emergency like 2 hours then to be told I have a hangover, plus I just wanted to lay in my bed, we went home. The numbness/tingling never came back luckily, but I vomited like 7 times that day! Now, I do vomit from time to time when I have a hangover but never that much. I don't know what it was, but I still can't believe it was simply because I drank so much. I don't know if it was just an upset stomach as I ate the same thing as everyone else. And I couldn't find an answer on Google except this post so here I am :) Hopefully we can find an answer!