People Are Allergic To Me (PATM)

[HelplessHopeful]

People are allergic to me. And a lot of other people around the world are suffering from this condition. Doctors do not beleive the reports, and most of them claim that we are crazy but we all know that we're far from being crazy. This condition causes so much heartache and stress. I have sent emails to CDC, NIH and WHO with no help. Would you please address this issue?

[grateful2011]

my journey with patm and patm free is well documented on this forum

feel free to check my past posts, which began about december 2011


brief synopsis:  became "aware" and noticed people allergic reactions in my presence : coughing, sneezing, wiping their nose, gagging etc

before beginning oregano oil capsules - was consuming fast foods, junk foods -any foods i wanted

gradually , after researching and googling and youtubing info : stopped consuming the following : sugar ( stevia instead), dairy, meat, gluten, fast foods, processed foods, junk foods -

started and remain now -  embracing plant based food choices 90% of the time along with supplements

also no specific exercise , however when using the oregano oil capsules - I would also go to the dry sauna a few times each week to help remove toxins


hope this helps, what is your experience ?

[mamehakase]

Were you on any exceptional diet or exercise regimen while you were taking oregano oil?  Also before you started taking oregano oil, could you give specific symptoms of your patm problem?

[freeland1924]

Hi soiledsystem! I like your spirit of persistence and always looking for an answer. You’ll find them.

Sadly I have 2 assignments for next week so I’ll just make it brief.

A vehicle produces about 6 times the amount CO2 vs a human per day and grows exponentially. In a car race, it almost triples that amount. They also produce poisonous gases depending on the combustible mixture utilized. If CO2 was the answer, we’d be killed by our own cars and lawnmowers. A crowded cinema produces concentrated CO2 likely more than 100x our own.

The electric effect phenomenon is not a plausible scientific idea and it’s well understood by science major students as perquisite elementary knowledge. If I were to ask my lab technician for help, he could easily ask the faculty remove my student lab assistance privileges by considering me inefficient. It’s a nice way of declaring me retarded. I’m serious, some students in the past have been dismissed or privileges taken for performing crazy experiments during off hours.

However I’m open to all ideas therefore if you still insist then you can contact a tutor or student at a University or research facility near you for help. Some will do anything, even if they knew it wouldn’t work but for a relatively large amount of money depending on your specific demands.. all the best.

[soiledsystem]

can you get somebody there (university) to measure the amount of CO2 you are putting out?  there may be a fermentation process involved in both TMAU2 and PATM that causes waves of CO2 gas with some irritant in it (and smell in the case of TMAU2)...just a thought...also, waves of "bubbly" CO2 could maybe explain some of the electrical phenomena e.g. the bubbly gas wave interrupts electrical current, but the electrical current itself does not alter itself

[freeland1924]

It is bizarre for me to see conditions in life that are so rare and improbable for doctors that I myself find it quite doubting too. Take this documentary for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTmt7sLO7fk
The first thing that devoured my mind after watching this was this is likely complete ********. The peculiar thing is I found another video from another kid on CNN in the U.S. with the same problem whom doctors cannot understand why his condition occurs. After several tests they admitted they don’t know what’s wrong with him and presumably would not have believe him if they didn’t see it for themselves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e33gJfLT90

Doctors initially considered it a mental illness but are now trying to help them. I’m still skeptical until I hear a thorough medical examination into the condition itself.

Nevertheless I have always spectacled about our problem, PATM. Physicians are unwilling to help us and consider patmers as mental retards in advance without any thorough diagnosis. We are experiencing the same process tmau folks went through years ago before they had their conditions uncovered by mistake. I can only presume what they must have felt when they were told numerous times they were unhygienic and retarded. I don’t know how long we will endure this but I think it’s going to be a long way for all of us. We will have to hang on tight for a few more years because the MDs who are going to help us are probably not born yet. We just have to watch our diet carefully and incorporate any other measures necessary to make our lives easier and walk on.

[freeland1924]

I appreciate you soilsytem for sharing your ideas.  I understand and agree with what you’re saying with some minor details. btw I was only using TMAU type 1 as a comparison for PATM and not type 2. As for TMAU type 2, these are the only almost reputable website I can find.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3052392/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimethylaminuria

Ncbi has this to say on type 2, meaning they don’t fully understand the different combination of factors that contribute to type 2, let alone the suggestion that gut microflora may play a role in the generation of symptoms in some individuals. The word “may” which they used is a sign of not being sure.
They’ve listed a few of possible causation for type 2 or a combination of factors including gut flora but bacterial infection alone is not the only possibility. I don’t have TMAU so I wouldn’t know about the possible infectious possibilities; even so, there are other gut bacterial infectious diseases that spread easily if people don’t take proper precaution. If TMAU 2 is infectious then why haven’t we heard of an outbreak once?

I’m not disagreeing with your ideas but I’m just brainstorming for everyone to engage and come up with more ideas, and also see if there are some relevant ideas concerning our condition, PATM, if possible. For me, TMAU and PATM appear almost the same in every respect but with some minor differences. For example, my patm gives absolute no odor at all. I have never had BB before like most of these patmers experienced. Folks who have strong allergies towards me just don’t know what causes it. It takes a while before they realise their allergies is probably because of me then the avoidance begins.

“Cases of trimethylaminuria have been described where there was no genetic predisposition, or at least less than fully inactivating mutations of the FMO3 gene as described above, but where a combination of dietary, gut metabolism, hormonal and enzyme expression may have been factors.”

“Gut Flora and Hepatic Disease

Both portosystemic shunting and severely impaired hepatocellular function have reported to cause trimethylaminuria in a few cases, thought to be due to decreased clearance of the absorbed TMA load, and failure of oxygenation.38,39 Bacterial overgrowth in the small bowel may increase TMA production, and this may contribute to the odour associated with uraemia.40,41 Given that even on the same dose of substrate precursor in loading tests there is a big variation in the amount of TMAO and TMA excretion, it is possible that the nature of the gut microflora may play a significant role in the generation of symptoms in some individuals.”