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People Are Allergic To Me (PATM)
People are allergic to me. And a lot of other people around the world are suffering from this condition. Doctors do not beleive the reports, and most of them claim that we are crazy but we all know that we're far from being crazy. This condition causes so much heartache and stress. I have sent emails to CDC, NIH and WHO with no help. Would you please address this issue?
“My personal experience about that is that my patm appear and disappear without any reason I can understand.”
That’s rare but interesting.
That’s rare but interesting.
Hey guys !
Wanted to ask everyone a question.
Has anyone here EVER experienced reactions through say a live video stream of a facetime with a friend?
I really believe that i've experienced reactions with other people through this medium, which obviously doesn't involve any sort of 'air' contamination.
I've been on my vegan (no meet, no sugar, no gluten, no dairy) diet for about 2 and a half weeks and honestly my reactions have not diminished at all. I definitely FEEL incredible (more energy, better brain function, no bad breath), but when it comes to reactions, it has been the same, IF NOT WORSE.
I'm not letting this de-motivate me and I will continue to take a plethora of anti-fungals, probiotics as well as continue this diet for at least 3 months (new years)
Will report my findings again in a few weeks. AM hoping for the best..
If anyone has found ANY remedies that 100% decrease PATM reactions for even a short while, PLEASE either message me or share them here. I am even willing to take dangerous substances. Honestly, i'm at the point where I just want to prove to myself that this disease is in fact something thats transmitted through the air and is actually REAL.. as opposed to the possibility that people are itching their noses, under their nose, and rubbing their face because perhaps there's something about the structure or appearance of MY face that makes people uncomfortable.
Take care everyone, will check back tomorrow.
Wanted to ask everyone a question.
Has anyone here EVER experienced reactions through say a live video stream of a facetime with a friend?
I really believe that i've experienced reactions with other people through this medium, which obviously doesn't involve any sort of 'air' contamination.
I've been on my vegan (no meet, no sugar, no gluten, no dairy) diet for about 2 and a half weeks and honestly my reactions have not diminished at all. I definitely FEEL incredible (more energy, better brain function, no bad breath), but when it comes to reactions, it has been the same, IF NOT WORSE.
I'm not letting this de-motivate me and I will continue to take a plethora of anti-fungals, probiotics as well as continue this diet for at least 3 months (new years)
Will report my findings again in a few weeks. AM hoping for the best..
If anyone has found ANY remedies that 100% decrease PATM reactions for even a short while, PLEASE either message me or share them here. I am even willing to take dangerous substances. Honestly, i'm at the point where I just want to prove to myself that this disease is in fact something thats transmitted through the air and is actually REAL.. as opposed to the possibility that people are itching their noses, under their nose, and rubbing their face because perhaps there's something about the structure or appearance of MY face that makes people uncomfortable.
Take care everyone, will check back tomorrow.
Hey, good to see you back. Your ideas sounds great! Thanks for sharing your opinion with me. Yes I agree we are on the same line… breath means the air that is inhaled and exhaled through respiration so it doesn’t matter where…. since they both come from one pipe that leads to the lungs. The lungs receive its VOC’s from the blood because of respiration. The blood also supplies the rest of the body. So whatever is in the blood will end up in breath, sweat on skin, forehead, underarms etc, urine etc. Whatever was in the intestines ends up in the blood and excretion so there’s all connections. They are all connected.
We can test for any of them and it doesn’t really matter, however, we know that whatever causes patm allergies on other people has to get airborne first. Test on breath only narrows the search but bodily secretion whether liquid or gas is still OK.
Skin bacteria don’t matter for patm, because they get carried from one person to another. In other words, the bacteria that we have on our skin are not unique. They can easily get from one person to another in a number of ways including touching, kissing, touching objects that came into contact with another person. If skin bacteria were the cause for patm, we wouldn’t have to worry because the whole world would all be patmers.
The cloud explanation in my opinion is an attempt by some media dude (author of article) to use statements from academics and Bio101 fundamentals to try and sell his writings. Honestly there’s nothing new there or impressive to learn from.
Note that microbes are floating in the air, up in the sky and everywhere always. We couldn’t get rid of them if we wanted to… and they also existed before us and will exist long after life as we know it cease to exist on earth. That’s why astronomers look for microbial life in other planetary exploration as they are the first and will be the last in any living things in any object in space. There’s bacteria falling from our skin, hair etc. every now and then, but there are no microbes buzzing around and following anyone and for a good reason – they don’t have wings as they’re unicellular. Unless they’re attached to your skin, once they fall off and float in the air, that’s it. They don’t have wings to follow anyone. They just float and happen to fall on anything they come across and grow. The whole world is covered with microbes. .. it’s one of the first ideas that microbiologists understood ever since Robert Hooke discovered the first cell in 1665.
If bacteria on/in us were the same size as human cells, they’d drown us. It will be like being drowned in a swarm of bees. They outnumber our body cells I think 1:10. They occupied the whole world. Once someone dies, their immunity fails, and bacteria inside (gut) and outside start discomposing the body. If there weren’t any bacteria in some place on earth then expect anything to die there and possible preserve itself. .. for example, in a refrigerator. Most bacteria can’t survive in freezing temperatures so whatever you put in the fridge doesn’t get devoured by bacteria. So expect anything like a piece of meat to go bad anywhere around world because bacteria are everywhere. We need them as decomposers/recyclers otherwise we’d be stumbling around on millions of corpses of animals such as the dinosaurs.
We can test for any of them and it doesn’t really matter, however, we know that whatever causes patm allergies on other people has to get airborne first. Test on breath only narrows the search but bodily secretion whether liquid or gas is still OK.
Skin bacteria don’t matter for patm, because they get carried from one person to another. In other words, the bacteria that we have on our skin are not unique. They can easily get from one person to another in a number of ways including touching, kissing, touching objects that came into contact with another person. If skin bacteria were the cause for patm, we wouldn’t have to worry because the whole world would all be patmers.
The cloud explanation in my opinion is an attempt by some media dude (author of article) to use statements from academics and Bio101 fundamentals to try and sell his writings. Honestly there’s nothing new there or impressive to learn from.
Note that microbes are floating in the air, up in the sky and everywhere always. We couldn’t get rid of them if we wanted to… and they also existed before us and will exist long after life as we know it cease to exist on earth. That’s why astronomers look for microbial life in other planetary exploration as they are the first and will be the last in any living things in any object in space. There’s bacteria falling from our skin, hair etc. every now and then, but there are no microbes buzzing around and following anyone and for a good reason – they don’t have wings as they’re unicellular. Unless they’re attached to your skin, once they fall off and float in the air, that’s it. They don’t have wings to follow anyone. They just float and happen to fall on anything they come across and grow. The whole world is covered with microbes. .. it’s one of the first ideas that microbiologists understood ever since Robert Hooke discovered the first cell in 1665.
If bacteria on/in us were the same size as human cells, they’d drown us. It will be like being drowned in a swarm of bees. They outnumber our body cells I think 1:10. They occupied the whole world. Once someone dies, their immunity fails, and bacteria inside (gut) and outside start discomposing the body. If there weren’t any bacteria in some place on earth then expect anything to die there and possible preserve itself. .. for example, in a refrigerator. Most bacteria can’t survive in freezing temperatures so whatever you put in the fridge doesn’t get devoured by bacteria. So expect anything like a piece of meat to go bad anywhere around world because bacteria are everywhere. We need them as decomposers/recyclers otherwise we’d be stumbling around on millions of corpses of animals such as the dinosaurs.
Hello Freeland1924 and everyone else,
I apologize I haven't posted on here in over a week but I have been more busy with work and life. I still agree that testing the VOC's that are emitted from us would be the best way to understand PATM. I've just been thinking about the best way we can access a tool that is capable of doing that. The best thing I can think of is if everyone researches their local university or community college and search for their environmental health and science department and see if somehow they are able to access their equipment. When you have access to the equipment, compare the VOC's that you emit with those of a non-PATMer.
Freeland1924, I know you say test your breath because it is the only thing that can cause a particle to become airborne. However, I think that the PATM article or whatever is causing the allergic reactions is not only emitted from our breath. The reason being is because I have always been someone that inhales and exhales through my nose and not my mouth. I still see plenty of reactions and no noticeable difference if I exhale through my mouth or my nose. Maybe I misunderstood what you said about that?
I think whatever is causing these reactions is somehow being emitted from our skin. Or maybe the bacteria and other particles in our "cloud" theory has credence. It is a very interesting article/discovery I must say. Again, these are just my honest observations, and are not proven.
I apologize I haven't posted on here in over a week but I have been more busy with work and life. I still agree that testing the VOC's that are emitted from us would be the best way to understand PATM. I've just been thinking about the best way we can access a tool that is capable of doing that. The best thing I can think of is if everyone researches their local university or community college and search for their environmental health and science department and see if somehow they are able to access their equipment. When you have access to the equipment, compare the VOC's that you emit with those of a non-PATMer.
Freeland1924, I know you say test your breath because it is the only thing that can cause a particle to become airborne. However, I think that the PATM article or whatever is causing the allergic reactions is not only emitted from our breath. The reason being is because I have always been someone that inhales and exhales through my nose and not my mouth. I still see plenty of reactions and no noticeable difference if I exhale through my mouth or my nose. Maybe I misunderstood what you said about that?
I think whatever is causing these reactions is somehow being emitted from our skin. Or maybe the bacteria and other particles in our "cloud" theory has credence. It is a very interesting article/discovery I must say. Again, these are just my honest observations, and are not proven.
meowkitty1 - that article about the micro biome "cloud" that surrounds us all is just about the most interesting thing I've heard in a long time, thank you for sharing.
About the parasites in bacon experiment. A lot of vegans use the coca-cola experiment to justify not eating meat however there are pathogens in everything we consume. Our body is an amazing machine if it is working properly and has enough relaxation to function properly.
HCl is the acid that our stomach secretes to denature all proteins. It kills these pathogens, which are proteins, and render them as nourishment for our body. So it is ridiculous that people take antacids when the problem is that our stressed out, nutrient-deficient modern society is HCl deficient for the most part.
We must address how well we are digesting. I take HCl supplements. There are ways of finding out your dosage. I also have been moving my life around to make more time for digesting food and socializing. The reason digestion goes wrong is stress. Like I said, pathogens are in everything we eat. It is stress and other factors (like neurological factors) that hamper our digestion to the point where it cannot kill the pathogens and then motility issues can cause it all to back up and putrefy.
About the parasites in bacon experiment. A lot of vegans use the coca-cola experiment to justify not eating meat however there are pathogens in everything we consume. Our body is an amazing machine if it is working properly and has enough relaxation to function properly.
HCl is the acid that our stomach secretes to denature all proteins. It kills these pathogens, which are proteins, and render them as nourishment for our body. So it is ridiculous that people take antacids when the problem is that our stressed out, nutrient-deficient modern society is HCl deficient for the most part.
We must address how well we are digesting. I take HCl supplements. There are ways of finding out your dosage. I also have been moving my life around to make more time for digesting food and socializing. The reason digestion goes wrong is stress. Like I said, pathogens are in everything we eat. It is stress and other factors (like neurological factors) that hamper our digestion to the point where it cannot kill the pathogens and then motility issues can cause it all to back up and putrefy.
Let’s get something cleared up first. I’m not talking about breath tests that people talk about here in this forum i.e. odor, carbon dioxide etc. Some people here have opinions that dictate discriminatory beliefs on what causes patm and only look for ways to test for that particular substance of interest, as if nothing else is possible. That kind of approach is not appropriate, at least for me, or isn’t very useful on various reasons:
1. The possibility is numerous.
2. Some people test for odor in breath/bodily secretions. Odor is too limited and specific. It doesn’t rule out other possibilities so such test doesn’t narrow down the problem.
3. Doctors have said it millions of times that they can’t sense odor from us so this is confusion already. It’s either all doctors on earth from different countries and universities are liars or the odor claim is false, but whatever it is, that’s got to be sorted out first.
Therefore, to test for all possible chemicals within us, capable of vaporizing, you need a thorough test. These techniques are used by experts in chemistry, biochemistry and physics to isolate compounds within a particular volume of space. I explained on previous post on how various techniques such gas chromatography, mass spectrometry etc. can be used to get a VOCs outline for a patmer.
You can’t easily convince your doctor to help you with a sophisticated diagnostic procedure like this unless you have $50,000 in your pocket..lol. He doesn’t know **** about how to do it either; if he agrees he’ll call other experts from research institutions or universities (for a fee) to do it for him. But what if he lies to you since most doctors already have presumptions and beliefs and may just throw in anything to explain it away? If you can convince a family member who’s a biochemist in a research institution or university to do this for you, then you are in good hands.
In person, I prefer to do it myself or have one of my colleagues do it for me while I’m there to observe. So if you go to university and major in those areas, you can find it easily.
Why do I choose to do it myself? Because I hate listening to bigots arguing with me to utter something that I already know. I rather wait till the time comes and I can do it with much peace.
Frankly, I wanted to keep silent until I get there because there’s always a potential for an academic thesis especially for things like this because the more controversial a hypothesis is usually the better but only if you prove everyone wrong at the end.
Here are videos with simplified explanations for general people of various techniques & equipment to achieve such a task. We may need a variety of these techniques to build a profile of our two test subjects. Hopefully a gas chromatography alone will reveal the secrets easily but if it doesn’t then we’ll need the help of more than one technique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xaa9WdXVTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpPzImDSfqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-wao0O0_qM
1. The possibility is numerous.
2. Some people test for odor in breath/bodily secretions. Odor is too limited and specific. It doesn’t rule out other possibilities so such test doesn’t narrow down the problem.
3. Doctors have said it millions of times that they can’t sense odor from us so this is confusion already. It’s either all doctors on earth from different countries and universities are liars or the odor claim is false, but whatever it is, that’s got to be sorted out first.
Therefore, to test for all possible chemicals within us, capable of vaporizing, you need a thorough test. These techniques are used by experts in chemistry, biochemistry and physics to isolate compounds within a particular volume of space. I explained on previous post on how various techniques such gas chromatography, mass spectrometry etc. can be used to get a VOCs outline for a patmer.
You can’t easily convince your doctor to help you with a sophisticated diagnostic procedure like this unless you have $50,000 in your pocket..lol. He doesn’t know **** about how to do it either; if he agrees he’ll call other experts from research institutions or universities (for a fee) to do it for him. But what if he lies to you since most doctors already have presumptions and beliefs and may just throw in anything to explain it away? If you can convince a family member who’s a biochemist in a research institution or university to do this for you, then you are in good hands.
In person, I prefer to do it myself or have one of my colleagues do it for me while I’m there to observe. So if you go to university and major in those areas, you can find it easily.
Why do I choose to do it myself? Because I hate listening to bigots arguing with me to utter something that I already know. I rather wait till the time comes and I can do it with much peace.
Frankly, I wanted to keep silent until I get there because there’s always a potential for an academic thesis especially for things like this because the more controversial a hypothesis is usually the better but only if you prove everyone wrong at the end.
Here are videos with simplified explanations for general people of various techniques & equipment to achieve such a task. We may need a variety of these techniques to build a profile of our two test subjects. Hopefully a gas chromatography alone will reveal the secrets easily but if it doesn’t then we’ll need the help of more than one technique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xaa9WdXVTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpPzImDSfqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-wao0O0_qM
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