I'm just thinking..

[bedtimestory]

I remember Barnbabe. Reading all the posts that have been controversial in one way or another makes me remember her so much. All of those who had the opportunity of sharing thoughts with her catched different points of view about her personality and how open she was. I personally liked her and wonder how she is doing and when she'll be back with more inputs.

[bedtimestory]

I'm not sure if with what you  commented on you are trying to imply that I believe she is INNOCENT? Oh well..just in case this was actually your message  let me clarify something. I liked her. I admire her for being so opinionated and standing by what she believed ...being that religion, politics, marriage etc. I did not say she didn't attack people. I said since she was getting attacked she left. Maybe she got tired of fighting over things that cannot be changed sometimes, for instance: people's points of view, or the entire world for that matter. I have not said she was a victim, hea. So if that's your interpretation of my writing let me tell you right now that I didn't mean for anyone to interpret such things.

You can have your opinion and I respect it. I have read almost all her posts.Trust me I should know the way she was and the way she said things.  She still has my respect and I still like her. She sees things differently and that's not bad. Many of her ideas I did not share/ agreed with/supoprted etc but those were strong ideas to me. That's just my opinion. I'm not here to defend her or anyone. I'm here to express how I feel.

[hea]

The problem was not with what she said but with how she said it.  She was just as guilty, maybe even moreso, as anyone, when it came to attacking others.  Her views on religion and those who believed are one example.  She was not interested in listening to what others had to say. I could go on but I'm not really interested in discussing it further.  She was not an innocent victim although she sure would like you to believe it.

[mayflowers]

I agree ;o)

[bedtimestory]

Mayflowers - so she was partially right then? hahahaha I hope everything goes awesome for you at work and keep building friendships like the one you mentioned. It is rewarding and fun to have good friends.

ksanden - You are right. She didn't like going around in circles. She just went for it and got to the point no matter what no matter who. I don't think hypocrisy was one of her fortes. If she didn't agree with you she'd let you know. She was very opinionated and that's after all what we need on these sites.

Thing is many people come here asking for advice but in reality what they are looking in response are comments they'd like to hear and unfortunately that's not how it is. If you post something on a site like this one you should be ready to expect any type of comment and wether you like it or not it's up to you (of course I'm not saying it is right to just go an attack somebody here just because we do not agree with them). Barnbabe many times said things people didn't want to accept or read and she got blamed for it. I admire her for standing by what she thought was right/acceptable/good.
I wish she'd come back...truly..she was a great person.

[ksanden]

i dont no her i havent read anything from her but what i hear about her in other posts i hear shes quiet fun to read about and gets to the point..
ksanden

[mayflowers]

Yup, that was actually a good argument.  It's just that working in the corp world, I had seen so many people start off as friends and then they ended up having affairs. It's easy to do with business trips and expense accounts and late night meetings.  I worked in Sales for years, all those good looking people and mix it with alcohol...bad combination. Sometimes the people don't even mean for it to happen, it just did.  Plus I knew people who would tell their bf/gf they were just friends with someone when actually they were more than friends.  I was speaking from my small world of experience.   I enjoyed that argument even though it got personal for both of us but I should have never let myself get so mean.  That's why now I stop when I see something going that way.  

This is really weird, but now I work with all men, my one female co-worker left, and I've become pretty good friends with one of these guys.  He's like a little brother to me and we crack each other up all day long.  And there is no hint of sexual tension - it feels great.  Of course I'm in a happier place now so that must help.

[bedtimestory]

Like you said she is unique. I disagreed with her sometimes. A couple of things she wrote about  I never felt like answering just because I liked reading them so much. Even if she was arguing with someone it was still refreshing to read all of those sometimes crazy ideas of hers, but she would put them in a way that nobody could and she'd stand by it no matter what. I got the impression that she was a confident person.

I remember her getting into an argument with you about men having female friends when they (the guys) were actually in a relationship. I remember you said you didn't agree with it to which she many times said to you and everybody else that she actually liked the fact that her partner had female friends. See I didn't agree with that either but I have to admit..I'd concentrate so much on her writing that many of her thoughts got to me to the point that she almost convinced me too hahahaha. She gave good advices. I like to read her comments on Atkins which she posted to misscloey to help her lose weight. She had me doing the diet, too hahahaha and I don't even have any more weight to lose hahaha. Man it'd be fun if she came back. I felt bad when she said she was feeling attacked and left. I think everyone should respect others' ideas.

[mayflowers]

I know what you mean.  I miss her too  :o(   I got into with her on a couple of things and she did make me mad but when I look back now, I think I just had never met anyone like her and didn't quite know how to respond to her statements.  I regret that I wasn't more mature about everything.  OK, I'll say it...I was a stupid idiot.  She was really smart and noone could argue like she could.   She could make you think the sky was pink with purple polka dotted clouds if she wanted too.  She actually made me question the way I thought about everything that I held dear to my heart.  Man, I wish more people would make me do that.  It would be nice if she came back.  She was truly a unique individual who had something important to say.  

Thanks bedtimestory, glad to know others feel the same.