Oral HPV hpv concern

[sliverking]

In 01/06 I was diagnosed with HPV.  No doctor has been able to tell me the type. Even if  I treat them, They come back. My ex and I performed oral sex on each other. I never noticed any warts on her genital area ever, but I know she had it.

I noticed, today, I tiny light clored pimple sized dot on one of the folds of my upper lip.  I would say it i the size of a period.  It doesnt extend out the skin like a pimple would yet. So far it is on upper lip's folds a little right of the pink center. when I smile it looks flat but the light color is noticeable if you know it is there and where to look. When I squint my eyes, it looks like it is barley peaking out of the skin. and the fold hides it somewhat when I am not smiling, but you can still see the light colored dot.  I dont have any other STDs, I was checked for herpes before and was negatibe for that and others. I have seen some nasty picture of growths haging from peoples lips.  

The messages on the expert forum say that you body clears it within two years but I am still having out breaks. My urologist says he doesnt see any hpv and mg derm says that they are to tiny to be worth treating. I only see two  on my penis on is flat and rough  and the other is a tiny skin tact like like wart.
Since I am still having outbreaks, does that mean I have a bad immune system and that they will get worst until it causes my death?

I work out and I try to at healty. I saw a dentist and she said that she didnt see any hpv in my mouth. thay was about two months ago and things could have changed. To date, i dont see anything in my mouth but I am thinking that the tiny dot is early skin cell change or something. I am just scared cause I have seen  some nasty pictures and growths hanging from peoples mouths and I cant believe they didnt notice that early enough. I just dont want oral hpv to occure two years later.

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

No STDs are transmitted by kissing, including HPV.  That you even asked that question, and that you compulsively washed your mouth afterward (nobody doesn that!), are further evidence of such a severe lack of objectivity that it suggests a mental health disorder.  Please follow up on my suggestion about it.  That is the only signficant health issue evident in your questions.

I won't have any further comments.

[sliverking]

I wanted to thank you for your reply and this has been troubleing me for a while becasue I cant get anyone to really explain this to me. There are tons of information online, but it all leave a what if open.

Also, not to be a pain and this will be the last, but I was not able to add it to my earlier question. I went to a strip club and one of the dancers kissed her lip and then tapped mine, I then immediately when and washed my mouth with soap and water, could i have gotten hpv or something from that. It was over two weeks ago. Hope its not herpes or something cause my  evaluation was way before then.

Again thanks for you patients with me.

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

The quick response:  Two different health care providers, your dentist and urologist, have reassured you that you don't have either penile or oral warts.  That is the bottom line.  You don't have either problem.  The more interesting health issue here is why you are having trouble accepting that.  It's not normal to be so obsesssed with a diagnosis when all the evidence is against it.

All the other evidence also is against genital warts and other HPV infections.  HPV rarely persists for 18+ months.  Your description does not suggest warts. Warts rarely occur on the face.  Anything you have to work so hard to see (squinting and all that) probably is not abnormal at all, probably just normal variations in the appearance of your skin.  And in the off chance you have facial or oral warts, warts outside the genital or anal area generally are not caused by the genital (sexually transmitted) types of HPV -- i.e., not an STD, which is the only topic appropriate for this forum.

Please try to trust your health care providers.  If you cannot get past the obsession about HPV, talk to your primary care provider about the possible need for professional mental health assessment.  I suggest it out of compassion, not criticism.  Also, stop searching the internet for information that doesn't pertain to you.

Finally, please note the MedHelp rule about a maximum of 2 questions every 6 months in the moderated forums. This is your second recently.

Regards--  HHH, MD