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Oral Sex and Kissing
I have read many posts on this site that say that kissing (even deep french) cannot transfer stds. I have also read a number of posts that say that a male receiving unprotected oral sex can transmit an STD, although the risk is low.
This seems like a bit of a contradiction ... in both cases (same female mouth), why can a male possibly receive an STD from a female mouth during oral sex, but not during oral kissing?
This seems like a bit of a contradiction ... in both cases (same female mouth), why can a male possibly receive an STD from a female mouth during oral sex, but not during oral kissing?
sam....you have your own thread going so please just continue asking your own situation related questions there - thank you.
for more info on std's, testing and transmission - www.ashastd.org has all the info you need.
grace
for more info on std's, testing and transmission - www.ashastd.org has all the info you need.
grace
thank you for your answers and input. Can you or anyone else for that matter comment on my STD time frames post that I just put up a little while ago? thank you.
It is possible with all of them. HIV being virtually 0% though. But the fact is it is always possible. IT IS JUST NOT VERY LIKELY TO HAPPEN. IT IS VERY RARE. So, unless you plan on not ever having oral sex, you should just use a protective barrier.
when I gave there was no ejaculation if that helps in any way to answer the question I just posted. and I am female.
In the US alone, by the time we reach our 40's, 60% of us has hsv1 orally. By the time we reach our rocking chairs on the front porch in retirement, it's closer to 80% of us have it. It's not something everyone has but it's incredibly common. In other countries the rates are sometimes even higher.
Hsv1 orally sheds more than hsv in other locations. Just avoiding kissing someone and/or receiving oral sex with someone who has an obvious cold sore does go a long way but it still sheds periodically in between obvious sores and of course the majority of folks who have hsv1 orally, aren't getting obvious cold sores either.
The only way to be 100% risk free is to sit home alone and not kiss anyone and not have any sexual contact. Not something I recommend for anyone by no means! You go to work and your coworkers are calling out right and left with gi bugs or colds/flu and when you get it too, you don't think twice about it. Why some folks think you can be nekkid, hot and sweaty and exchange body fluids with someone and not get anything is unrealistic thinking. There will always be risk - it's a matter of evaluating your risk in general with a partner, doing basic testing before sexual contact and using condoms/barrier protection when you are having random encounters so that you can minimize your risk.
grace
Hsv1 orally sheds more than hsv in other locations. Just avoiding kissing someone and/or receiving oral sex with someone who has an obvious cold sore does go a long way but it still sheds periodically in between obvious sores and of course the majority of folks who have hsv1 orally, aren't getting obvious cold sores either.
The only way to be 100% risk free is to sit home alone and not kiss anyone and not have any sexual contact. Not something I recommend for anyone by no means! You go to work and your coworkers are calling out right and left with gi bugs or colds/flu and when you get it too, you don't think twice about it. Why some folks think you can be nekkid, hot and sweaty and exchange body fluids with someone and not get anything is unrealistic thinking. There will always be risk - it's a matter of evaluating your risk in general with a partner, doing basic testing before sexual contact and using condoms/barrier protection when you are having random encounters so that you can minimize your risk.
grace
Because of the fact that viral shedding may exhibit very mild to no symptoms, a person does not know when it occurs. Nor do they know how often it occurs in THEM unless they can recognize the signs. Hsv1 transmission to the genital area is more common than hsv2 to the mouth.
It wasn't said specifically that it cannot happen but the way I read it leads me to believe that others will take it that way. I just wanted to clarify that the possibility is very real. In fact (and this is my opinion) I think it is more real and possible than contracting other std's orally.
It wasn't said specifically that it cannot happen but the way I read it leads me to believe that others will take it that way. I just wanted to clarify that the possibility is very real. In fact (and this is my opinion) I think it is more real and possible than contracting other std's orally.
many of the std's just aren't going to be found in the mouth for starters and they aren't going to be transmitted just by kissing to be an issue. No reason to worry about kissing as far as the common std's and transmission.
As for oral sex - you can get std's that way but the risk if low. If you've received oral sex and are wondering if you need any testing, in general if you haven't had any symptoms then no reason for testing. It's always best to both perform and receive oral sex while using barrier protection if you aren't aware of the person's std status.
grace
As for oral sex - you can get std's that way but the risk if low. If you've received oral sex and are wondering if you need any testing, in general if you haven't had any symptoms then no reason for testing. It's always best to both perform and receive oral sex while using barrier protection if you aren't aware of the person's std status.
grace
If there are no signs of a herpes outbreak the risk is not as high, i think its something like less than 10% of days an infected person sheds the virus with no symptoms, but the person is always shedding when they have symptoms.
thank you for clarifying this...what about other diseases that could be mouth to getilals? what would that include?
It is true that herpes can be spread by viral shedding.. however, herpes 1 is less likely to shed than herpes 2 - and cross-transmission (herpes 1 of the genitals, and herpes 2 of the mouth) is rare. Also, the herpes virus is not constantly shedding. It goes through shedding stages, so having obvious infectious visible sores would increase the likelihood of transmission. I don't think I said anything in my post about no risk of herpes without sores. I was talking about levels of risk.
I really wish people would get it straight about tramsmission of herpes. IT IS VERY POSSIBLE TO TRANSMIT ANY HERPES INFECTION WITHOUT VISIBLE BLISTERS. IT IS DUE TO VIRAL SHEDDING. MANY PEOPLE GET HERPES IN THIS WAY BECAUSE THEIR PARTNERS SHOW NO SIGNS OF INFECTION.
would you mind commenting on my post that was recent about oral and my risk? I gave oral last week... I would really like if you could comment on that since its a similar question/answer to this...thank you
It all depends on how you define "sexually transmitted." If someone has a cold sore (herpes 1), you can catch it from kissing - but this is not necessarily sexually transmitted. However, if that person performs oral sex on you, and you catch herpes 1 on your penis (which is very rare btw), you can consider it "sexually transmitted." I know, it is a bit of a play on words. But the truth of the matter is that throat gonorrhea, herpes, and syphilis can be transmitted from mouth to mouth (but this is very unlikely) and they can be transmitted from mouth to genitals (also very unlikely - even if the person is known to have these diseases). In general, oral sex is "safer sex" because it is not an effective means of transmitting an STD - though there is always some risk involved. And the level of risk depends on many different factors: duration, visible sores on the "giver's" mouth, cuts or abrasions on the "receiver's" genitals, whether the "receiver" is male or female, etc.
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