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oral herpes????????
one week ago, I kissed a girl twice (no tongue) for about 3 or 4 seconds each time.
yesterday (so about 7 days later) i was eating something spicy and felt a burn on my lip and the tip of my tongue.
I didn't think nothing of it.
when i got home I looked closely in the mirror and saw a very tiny vertical cut in the middle of my bottom lip.
and since my tongue was slightly tender - i looked closely at the tip. There was a very tiny pinpoint sized white bump. Sort of like the other white bumps on a tongue only very slightly larger. the bump slightly hurt when i pressed it up against my teeth.
I went to the doc today (general practitioner) and he looked at it for about two seconds and told me I have oral herpes.
how can that be? it was two really quick kisses and she didn't have a sore.
he didn't even check my lymph nodes or take blood.
my questions:
1) should i get another opinion?
2) will i get cold sores from this? this wasn't a cold sore, it was a cut and the little bump.
3) if it does come back will it come back in the same manner (cut and bump in the same place) or more severe cold sores?
4) what percent of people have oral herpes?
5) how can i get it from simple kissing like that? without tongues.
6) how likely is that i will get recurrant sores?
7) i've always gotten a pimple every now and then on the corner of my mouth, does that mean that i already have herpes? or is this a first infection if it is anything at all?
8) should i tell my girlfriend?
yesterday (so about 7 days later) i was eating something spicy and felt a burn on my lip and the tip of my tongue.
I didn't think nothing of it.
when i got home I looked closely in the mirror and saw a very tiny vertical cut in the middle of my bottom lip.
and since my tongue was slightly tender - i looked closely at the tip. There was a very tiny pinpoint sized white bump. Sort of like the other white bumps on a tongue only very slightly larger. the bump slightly hurt when i pressed it up against my teeth.
I went to the doc today (general practitioner) and he looked at it for about two seconds and told me I have oral herpes.
how can that be? it was two really quick kisses and she didn't have a sore.
he didn't even check my lymph nodes or take blood.
my questions:
1) should i get another opinion?
2) will i get cold sores from this? this wasn't a cold sore, it was a cut and the little bump.
3) if it does come back will it come back in the same manner (cut and bump in the same place) or more severe cold sores?
4) what percent of people have oral herpes?
5) how can i get it from simple kissing like that? without tongues.
6) how likely is that i will get recurrant sores?
7) i've always gotten a pimple every now and then on the corner of my mouth, does that mean that i already have herpes? or is this a first infection if it is anything at all?
8) should i tell my girlfriend?
it could be candina? yeast infection?
also, i've had a blood test about 6 months ago that cleared me.
so this may indeed be an intial infection not something i got when i was younger like many are suggesting.
so this may indeed be an intial infection not something i got when i was younger like many are suggesting.
jimmy chen,
did u have other symptoms? did you have sexual relations recently?
was the white bump raised? or flat? what did the doc say it was? and how long did u have it for?
did u have other symptoms? did you have sexual relations recently?
was the white bump raised? or flat? what did the doc say it was? and how long did u have it for?
Oh sorry to take up more space, but I visited the County STD Clinic today and asked the woman taking care of me about the white bump on my tongue and she said it was nothing. I don't know if this is any consolation for you, but I would imagine the staff working the county STD clinic might have more experience with this stuff than your GP.
thanks for the help everyone.
this bump that you speak of, has it been there long? did you get it soon (like week) after kissing?
plus i have that cut on my lip that is pretty much healed up now.
the white bump on my tongue doesn't hurt anymore.
I have been feeling sleepy though which apparently is another symptom.
i want to know the following: if i this indeed HSV1, what are my chances of having a recurrance? is there a correlation between having the primary infection with symptoms and having recurrences? or is luck of the draw? if the initial infection is rather mild like this is, does that indicate mild recurrences?
and lastly, i'm afraid to tell my girl. she has never cold sores or anything. i sort of figure if i can get through a week begning now without kissing her or performing oral on her, i can slide by without saying anything unless i get a cold sore in the future. i'm really scared and don't want to end my relationship with her.
this bump that you speak of, has it been there long? did you get it soon (like week) after kissing?
plus i have that cut on my lip that is pretty much healed up now.
the white bump on my tongue doesn't hurt anymore.
I have been feeling sleepy though which apparently is another symptom.
i want to know the following: if i this indeed HSV1, what are my chances of having a recurrance? is there a correlation between having the primary infection with symptoms and having recurrences? or is luck of the draw? if the initial infection is rather mild like this is, does that indicate mild recurrences?
and lastly, i'm afraid to tell my girl. she has never cold sores or anything. i sort of figure if i can get through a week begning now without kissing her or performing oral on her, i can slide by without saying anything unless i get a cold sore in the future. i'm really scared and don't want to end my relationship with her.
I did some searching and found that the doc has referenced this question in the past and said that HSV-1 rarely manifests itself on the tongue. I sure hope that is the case because I too have been worried sick about this little white "dot" (looks like a white taste bud) that I have on the tip of my tongue. You are not alone..
Mine are not any more raised than a normal taste bud. They are not painful, but the reason I noticed them in the first place is because my tongue has had an abnormal sensation as if it had been burnt.
I noticed them occur about 3-4 weeks after I had a sexual encounter. The woman I slept with claims that she does not get cold sores, but I also did perform oral and although she showed not visible symptoms of HSV-2 I guess I can't rule that out.
However, I had two smaller white bumps about a week ago that have since disappeared and have been replaced by just one white bump (larger then the other two). This doesn't seem to be too consistent with HSV in that I imagine I shouldnt have lost symptoms and then regained them within a week or so.
The lady at the STD clinic just dismissed the symptoms as being any sort of oral STD. She looked at the bump under a magnifying glass and basically just shrugged them off.
I would like to get a Herpes Select test to really put the nail in the coffin on this issue, but it is difficult to find a lab in my area that uses it. I would say if you are really worried that maybe you should do the same. I do remember Dr. H stating (I apologize in advance Dr. if this is in any way, shape or form inaccurate) that in 3 decades he didn't encounter a single case of HSV on the tongue. I sometimes wonder if these bumps are a result of an abnormal amount of stress or something, because I have been an absolute train wreck the last 5-6 weeks. Hope this helps you!!
I noticed them occur about 3-4 weeks after I had a sexual encounter. The woman I slept with claims that she does not get cold sores, but I also did perform oral and although she showed not visible symptoms of HSV-2 I guess I can't rule that out.
However, I had two smaller white bumps about a week ago that have since disappeared and have been replaced by just one white bump (larger then the other two). This doesn't seem to be too consistent with HSV in that I imagine I shouldnt have lost symptoms and then regained them within a week or so.
The lady at the STD clinic just dismissed the symptoms as being any sort of oral STD. She looked at the bump under a magnifying glass and basically just shrugged them off.
I would like to get a Herpes Select test to really put the nail in the coffin on this issue, but it is difficult to find a lab in my area that uses it. I would say if you are really worried that maybe you should do the same. I do remember Dr. H stating (I apologize in advance Dr. if this is in any way, shape or form inaccurate) that in 3 decades he didn't encounter a single case of HSV on the tongue. I sometimes wonder if these bumps are a result of an abnormal amount of stress or something, because I have been an absolute train wreck the last 5-6 weeks. Hope this helps you!!
I think that you need to tell your girl friend for 2 reasons. Herpes can be transmitted when there is no symtoms and 2 it seems from what you wrote that you cheated on her by kissing this other girl and she deserves to know.
If you do have HSV-1 you probably did not get it from the incident you describe. A lot of people get it as a child and don't even know they have it. Half the adult population has HSV-1 so I wouldn't worry about it even if the GP is right about you having it. Take care.
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
I can't speak to the white bump on your tongue. Probably nothing, just a prominent taste bud or something. In relation to the lip lesion, if you have oral herpes, you didn't get it from the recent kiss you describe. You could have been infected since childhood. Specific answers:
1) To me, this doesn't seem important enough to get a second opinion. But if you don't trust your doctor's expertise and want a second opinion, ask for it.
2) Who knows? And who cares? With 50-70% of the population infected with HSV-1, with or without symptoms, what does it matter? Research indicates that people with recurrent oral herpes don't even consider a health problem, but merely a cosmetic issue. They're probably mostly right.
3) It's hard to predict what the future course might be. Since you undoubtedly did not acquire this recently, you probably can expect the same natural course you already are experiencing: perhaps an outbreak every several years. But this assumes you in fact have oral herpes--which really isn't known yet.
4) 50-70%.
5) You probably didn't get it from the kissing you describe. But casual kissing, without tongue contact, can transmit HSV.
6) See no. 3.
7) I have no way of knowing whether or not the "pimples" at the corner of your mouth were due to herpes.
8) Tell her what? That you might have oral herpes? Sure, if you like. More important, don't perform oral sex on her if/when you have future episodes. But there certainly is no reason or need to tell her you kissed the other person.
Good luck-- HHH, MD
1) To me, this doesn't seem important enough to get a second opinion. But if you don't trust your doctor's expertise and want a second opinion, ask for it.
2) Who knows? And who cares? With 50-70% of the population infected with HSV-1, with or without symptoms, what does it matter? Research indicates that people with recurrent oral herpes don't even consider a health problem, but merely a cosmetic issue. They're probably mostly right.
3) It's hard to predict what the future course might be. Since you undoubtedly did not acquire this recently, you probably can expect the same natural course you already are experiencing: perhaps an outbreak every several years. But this assumes you in fact have oral herpes--which really isn't known yet.
4) 50-70%.
5) You probably didn't get it from the kissing you describe. But casual kissing, without tongue contact, can transmit HSV.
6) See no. 3.
7) I have no way of knowing whether or not the "pimples" at the corner of your mouth were due to herpes.
8) Tell her what? That you might have oral herpes? Sure, if you like. More important, don't perform oral sex on her if/when you have future episodes. But there certainly is no reason or need to tell her you kissed the other person.
Good luck-- HHH, MD
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