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Vitamin D low as well as B-12
My Vitamin D was only 25 and my B-12 only 288, BUT I found out that my IRON was through the roof at 252 and my ferritin was 176. Could my low levels of the D and B-12 be causing me to have OVERLOADS of Iron? I am also recently diagnosed as Hypothyroid and Hashimoto. I am a mess :( Thanks!!
Kelli
Kelli
Hi Kelli
I'm not surprised at all.
In a perfect world, a doctor would be compensated not according to how many patients s/he sees in a day, but according to how much sustained improvement the patients have experienced due to his/her care and treatment.
Why you suspect Cushings? Your ACTH levels are within range.
Normal Cortisol values for a blood taken at 8 in the morning are 6 - 23 mcg/dL. You did not post your labs ref. range, which could be different.
Note: I'm not a fan of blood testing for cortisol levels, nor do I like the
a.m. Cortisol testing.
Cortisol follows the circadian rhythm so it should be tested accordingly (am
early pm, evening & night) and saliva testing is preferable to my opinion.
For more details go to BioHealthLabs website and look under:
Functional Adrenal Stress Profile – BH #201 – Cortisol x 4, 2 averaged DHEA-S. This can be only ordered by health professionals.
Your thyroid test results are still inconclusive, because you're missing Free T3 and reverse T3, the most important ones for thyroid function as I mentioned before.
Your iron status, D and B12 have improved significantly. Congratulations!
To improve your iodine levels:
Avoid chlorine, fluoride, bromine in anything! Bromine is in flour and baked goods. No pools, hot tubs, spas, unless safe purification methods are used
Avoid water from plastic bottles.
Eat organic as much as possible, organic free range eggs, organic grains,
low mercury cold water fish, unprocessed sea salt, sea vegetables and drink plenty of spring water (glass or ceramic containers only).
Cheers,
Niko
I'm not surprised at all.
In a perfect world, a doctor would be compensated not according to how many patients s/he sees in a day, but according to how much sustained improvement the patients have experienced due to his/her care and treatment.
Why you suspect Cushings? Your ACTH levels are within range.
Normal Cortisol values for a blood taken at 8 in the morning are 6 - 23 mcg/dL. You did not post your labs ref. range, which could be different.
Note: I'm not a fan of blood testing for cortisol levels, nor do I like the
a.m. Cortisol testing.
Cortisol follows the circadian rhythm so it should be tested accordingly (am
early pm, evening & night) and saliva testing is preferable to my opinion.
For more details go to BioHealthLabs website and look under:
Functional Adrenal Stress Profile – BH #201 – Cortisol x 4, 2 averaged DHEA-S. This can be only ordered by health professionals.
Your thyroid test results are still inconclusive, because you're missing Free T3 and reverse T3, the most important ones for thyroid function as I mentioned before.
Your iron status, D and B12 have improved significantly. Congratulations!
To improve your iodine levels:
Avoid chlorine, fluoride, bromine in anything! Bromine is in flour and baked goods. No pools, hot tubs, spas, unless safe purification methods are used
Avoid water from plastic bottles.
Eat organic as much as possible, organic free range eggs, organic grains,
low mercury cold water fish, unprocessed sea salt, sea vegetables and drink plenty of spring water (glass or ceramic containers only).
Cheers,
Niko
Ok so I saw the endo and he was an idiot.. so won't be back.. new tests are as follows.. I am concerned about my possibly having Cushings? My IRON and Ferratin and B-12 really improved! Thoughts?
Test Standard range my results
CORTISOL 14.3
ACTH 7.2 - 63.3 pg/mL 21.7
T3 58 - 159 ng/dL 101
T4 FREE 0.8 - 1.5 ng/dL 0.9
TSH 0.35 - 4.00 mcIU/mL 2.45
VITAMIN D, 25-HYDROXY, D3 42
VITAMIN D, 25-HYDROXY, D2 <4
25-HYDROXYVITAMIN D 30 - 100 ng/mL 42
VIT B12 200 - 910 pg/mL 753
FERRITIN 13 - 126 ng/mL 106
IRON 37 - 145 mcg/dL 182
TOTAL IRON BINDING CAPACITY 250 - 450 mcg/dL 390
IRON SAT 20 - 50 % 47
Test Standard range my results
CORTISOL 14.3
ACTH 7.2 - 63.3 pg/mL 21.7
T3 58 - 159 ng/dL 101
T4 FREE 0.8 - 1.5 ng/dL 0.9
TSH 0.35 - 4.00 mcIU/mL 2.45
VITAMIN D, 25-HYDROXY, D3 42
VITAMIN D, 25-HYDROXY, D2 <4
25-HYDROXYVITAMIN D 30 - 100 ng/mL 42
VIT B12 200 - 910 pg/mL 753
FERRITIN 13 - 126 ng/mL 106
IRON 37 - 145 mcg/dL 182
TOTAL IRON BINDING CAPACITY 250 - 450 mcg/dL 390
IRON SAT 20 - 50 % 47
Thank you for the info... I am definitely ready to address my Endo on the 6th! Question for you, I did the iodine patch test to see about my iodine levels as well, and within 8 hours the patch was GONE! I was shocked, I mean, I had no idea I was iodine deficient too? Thoughts?
Hi SassySavvySister and you're very welcome.
You may have to insist for the tests I mentioned.
Even if you must pay extra-I think reverse T3 usually does not have an insurance code- it's worth it.
To my opinion, fT3/rT3 ratio is probably the most reliable marker for low cellular thyroid function. A ratio of 20 and over is what you want to see.
Niko
You may have to insist for the tests I mentioned.
Even if you must pay extra-I think reverse T3 usually does not have an insurance code- it's worth it.
To my opinion, fT3/rT3 ratio is probably the most reliable marker for low cellular thyroid function. A ratio of 20 and over is what you want to see.
Niko
Thank you so much!! I just got into it with my Endo Office I was referred to when they said, well the tsh is the best way to check, and your Ft4 looked normal???? OMG I was like are you kidding??? 0.8 is NOT normal. DUM DUM's! I will be bringing all of your info when I meet with them on Jan 6! Thank you again!
Hi Sassy Savvy Sister.
You're not a mess my dear, you just have to get your health issues figured out and dealt with effectively.
You definitely need to start correcting your deficiencies asap regardless of cause.
You would benefit from B12 in methylocobalamin injections, intranasal gel or sublingual tablets (in order of efficiency and absorption) up to 1000mcg.
Vitamin D3 sublingual up to 5000UI daily or off peak hours natural sun exposure minimum 20 min. daily.
You should get proper diagnosis of iron overload or hemochromatosis.
If you want a Diagnosis Algorithm for Physicians, let me know and I can pm you one on a pdf, so you can see how it's done.
When transferring saturation persists over 45% and ferritin is above 150, then you have iron overload. Treatment is simple: Blood letting or blood donations.
The excess iron likely affects both the thyroid gland and the pituatary gland (among other organs), thus affecting thyroid hormone signalling (TSH) and thyroid hormone production (T3 & T4).
Hashimoto's is Autoimmune Thyroiditis , the most common cause of hypothyroidism.
For effective treatment, ideally, you should get treatment according to symptoms,-which, unfortunately, is not common practice anymore- taking natural dessicated thyroid (NDT).
Second best treatment option is to have frequent monotoring and testing (preferred tests to indicate thyroid function accurately are: Free T3, Free T4 & Reverse T3), so your dosing gets tweaked accordingly.
Look Broda Barnes trained Thyroid Doctors.
Your low D3 may be responsible for your b12 deficiency as D3 has numerous receptors in your digestive and G/I system, where B12 gets
assimilated, in the presence of intrinsic factor.
Intrinsic factor is gastric acid-dependent, so when gastric acid levels are low, intinsic factor is low and consequently B12 is deficient.
You may benefit from genetic testing: MTHFR gene mutations (there are about 40 discovered by now), HFE gene mutations (C282Y homozygote and the C282Y/H63D compound heterozygote are the highest risk)
able to test are: C282Y, H63D and S65C
The least expensive genetic testing I have come across is 23andme,
which offers only uninterpreted raw genetic data.
You can get free interpretaton of your results from other online sources.
If you do decide for this, I have a link saved ...somewhere.
Let me know and I'll find it and send it to you.
In my opinion it is important to have the biological father(s) of your children,
and all your children tested for these genetic mutations , but only if you get a proper diagnosis for Hemochromatosis.
I gave you enough to keep you busy for a while, lol!
If you need any more details, let me know, however, please note that my comments and suggestions are not intended as a substitute for medical advice.
Best wishes.
Niko
You're not a mess my dear, you just have to get your health issues figured out and dealt with effectively.
You definitely need to start correcting your deficiencies asap regardless of cause.
You would benefit from B12 in methylocobalamin injections, intranasal gel or sublingual tablets (in order of efficiency and absorption) up to 1000mcg.
Vitamin D3 sublingual up to 5000UI daily or off peak hours natural sun exposure minimum 20 min. daily.
You should get proper diagnosis of iron overload or hemochromatosis.
If you want a Diagnosis Algorithm for Physicians, let me know and I can pm you one on a pdf, so you can see how it's done.
When transferring saturation persists over 45% and ferritin is above 150, then you have iron overload. Treatment is simple: Blood letting or blood donations.
The excess iron likely affects both the thyroid gland and the pituatary gland (among other organs), thus affecting thyroid hormone signalling (TSH) and thyroid hormone production (T3 & T4).
Hashimoto's is Autoimmune Thyroiditis , the most common cause of hypothyroidism.
For effective treatment, ideally, you should get treatment according to symptoms,-which, unfortunately, is not common practice anymore- taking natural dessicated thyroid (NDT).
Second best treatment option is to have frequent monotoring and testing (preferred tests to indicate thyroid function accurately are: Free T3, Free T4 & Reverse T3), so your dosing gets tweaked accordingly.
Look Broda Barnes trained Thyroid Doctors.
Your low D3 may be responsible for your b12 deficiency as D3 has numerous receptors in your digestive and G/I system, where B12 gets
assimilated, in the presence of intrinsic factor.
Intrinsic factor is gastric acid-dependent, so when gastric acid levels are low, intinsic factor is low and consequently B12 is deficient.
You may benefit from genetic testing: MTHFR gene mutations (there are about 40 discovered by now), HFE gene mutations (C282Y homozygote and the C282Y/H63D compound heterozygote are the highest risk)
able to test are: C282Y, H63D and S65C
The least expensive genetic testing I have come across is 23andme,
which offers only uninterpreted raw genetic data.
You can get free interpretaton of your results from other online sources.
If you do decide for this, I have a link saved ...somewhere.
Let me know and I'll find it and send it to you.
In my opinion it is important to have the biological father(s) of your children,
and all your children tested for these genetic mutations , but only if you get a proper diagnosis for Hemochromatosis.
I gave you enough to keep you busy for a while, lol!
If you need any more details, let me know, however, please note that my comments and suggestions are not intended as a substitute for medical advice.
Best wishes.
Niko
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