i might die if i dont get help!!

[Hilly needs help]

ok, i am a 22-year-old male, nilly 23 years old, from australia, i been fat all my life and hate it,
i tryed the exercise thing, didnt work out for me,
and i have heard of clambuterol. i am around the 120lb mark and i am 168cm tall.i have tryed nilly everything, eg:
starvaing, (i didnt eat/drink anything for 6 days, and ended up reallly sick).
but i have an addiction to coke zero (zero sugar)

it contains:
food acids338,331
sweeteners 951,950
preservatives 211
caffeine
and phenylalanine

i supliment that for food, i drink it when i get up, for breakfast, and then when i bgo to bed, but also all day, i was on 9-11 liters a day!.
i dont drink water, and havnt drank it in the last 2 years, maby a glass or 2!!
please tell me how to do this,

i was thinking of takeing thyroxide, and clambuterol,
i want to get down from 264lbs to 176lbs,.

please help meee!!!

korn_42***@****
www.myspace.com/hillyshoedown

[fightu35]

ITS CLENBUTEROL illegal in the US very very strong fat burner..its asthma medication..legal in every other country..we now have ALBUTEROL
can be dangerouse stuff...if you do take it..make sure you know how..feel free to email me..and the other drug is a thyroid drug which is not often mixed  with CLEN...cytomel is alot...again be carfeull..with all due respect..you need a DR. not this place...nor the drugs they pushing.. you seem more confused on what to do ...read learn a  lil..no tricks..no drugs..no roids..any help..just ask..most here will 'CLAIM' A PREGANT WOMENS URINE (HCG) HELPED THEM..well ask the same people who told you about clen if its any good..HCG is 100% nonsense..its for steroid users...who dont want there ...... to shrink..and for boys with only 1.......and in women..it tricks the body into thinking its pregant...good luck..feel free to ask for ino

[lyndamc]

I am using Hcg for weight loss and I don't care what fightu35 thinks I know what I am experiencing.  Yes you will loose weight with a 500 calorie diet but you will also be very weak, irritable and your body will be in starvation mode which means a plummeting metabolism. I am in the middle of a 45 day regiment and am exremely happy with the results. I began on May 27 at 150 pounds and as of today I weigh 128. I work out 6 days a week aerobics for 45 minute to 1 hour and I weight train 3 day per week.  With only a 500 calorie diet there is no way I or anyone could work out like that. I would caution against any weight loss pills. Good luck to you.

[fightu35]

just a foot note here....guess what...with all that excerise...you could eat over 1,500 calories a day...and lose the same weight..lol with out injecting womens urine.. I posted the truth about HCG and what it realy is..and does...its sad so many are fooled...HCG is far from new..and does zero for weight loss...your talking like you FOOL the body into thinking its only getting 500 cals...and womens urine does not do this...and womens urine in no way can affect a fat cell..I know more about FATCELLS then anyone here..bar none....and womens urine cant help...hopefully you people will get a grip..and I bash no one..,just because I do not agree..thats bashing ? Just do not be lieing to people who come here ,who dont know better..with all your excercise you could eat so good..and with no pills...no powders..and no WOMENS URINE...and I have every right to tell people the truth..and once again.in tme..KEVEN TRUDEAU will be arrested again...do you tell these people that the second they stop injecting womends  urine.. ALL THE WEIGHT COMES BACK ?? I see that slipped your mind....did you post the real side affects....hmm...truth shoulod not make anyone here mad at me...do as you must..but leave other people alone..or atleast tell the truth..

[fightu35]

15 to 30 mg of phentermine daily resulted in about 1 lb to 13 lb more weight loss than when using a PLACEBO The medication was used from 2 weeks to 24 weeks, with an average use of about 13 weeks. Most of the people using phentermine in the studies reviewed also made lifestyle changes, such as diet or exercise.
Side Effects
Side effects of phentermine include:

Nervousness.
Irritability.
Sweating.
Nausea.
Headache.
Dry mouth.
Constipation.
Sleep problems.
Possible addiction.

What To Think About
Phentermine is no longer marketed in Europe due to a possible association with heart and lung problems.1

It is not known whether these medications are safe to take for more than a few weeks.

Weight generally is regained after stopping medication.

The best weight-loss medication program will also incorporate a weight-loss diet and exercise.
OK as you see..for a very slight weight (not fat) loss...why take the risk ?
and it clearly states..excercise,diet are #1 and no long tern studies have been done..and as soon as you stop..all weight is re-gained..this is junk..stop looking for a quick fix...its not worth the risks..not for this drug anyway

[lyndamc]

It sounds like you work for a pharmacuetical company.  I am a personal trainer and there is no way you could loose the kind of weight I am loosing with a 500 calorie diet and strenuous exercise and not pass out and you certainly wouldn't loose that weight on a 1500 calorie diet either.  The number of pounds lost are too big for diet and exercise alone not too mention the energy factor is very high.

[fightu35]

i do not work for anyone..lol oh and a 'PERSONAL TRAINOR' lol that dont mean much these days...as I said...learn  about something 'HCG' froma m non selling site.. untill someone shows me solid proof..from a non-selling source..its a  joke..why is there not shred of proof ? because ncertain people
'claim' to have lost weight ? they claim they ate more then 500 cals..when the diet clearly says more then 500 cals you wont lose..lol its a joke...some day you will get out from being brain washed..good luck to you

[fightu35]

This deceptive practice is injection with HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin). HCG is a hormone extracted from urine of pregnant women. It is approved by FDA for treatment of certain problems of the male reproductive system and in stimulating ovulation in women who have had difficulty becoming pregnant. No evidence has been presented, however, to substantiate claims for HCG as a weight-loss aid.

An article in JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) stated:

"No convincing scientific evidence exists that human chorionic gonadotropin has any pharmacologic effect in weight reduction. Hence, claims to the public that such effects do occur are a misrepresentation of the scientific facts."
FDA requires all labeling and advertising of HCG to state that it has not been demonstrated to be effective in the treatment of obesity. The ads must also state that HCG is not approved by FDA as safe and effective in treatment of obesity of weight control.

Yet the use of HCG for weight loss continues. For instance, advertisements for weight-loss clinics using HCG appeared in the Chicago area in the summer of 1982. The ads included the required disclaimer, but in type much smaller than that used to extol the virtues of the clinics' program.

The pill or shot to enable a person to lose weight without danger and without eating less has not been formulated. And the garment or other device to let one firm up or lose inches without moving a muscle has yet to be invented.

It looks like those who want to be slim will have to resort to those old, unglamorous standbys--eating less and exercising more--to shake those excess pounds.

[Hilly needs help]

holllyyy ****!!!
haha
ok then, well this is all to hard to understand,
but i have been offered a tub of clambuterol, (horse version for $150us or $300 aus).
my friend today told me that the horse drug fantisy will also work wonders on weightloss, but with really bad side effects, including death, but the way i see it is "im a fat ****, id rather die tryin to loose weight at 22, than die at 35 from
bein a fat ****"
but what i need to know is whats

the thing with coke zero is every day i drink 2.5 liters a day 2.5 liters inc:
7caleries
35kj on 2.5 liters of coke zero a day
2.5g carbohydrates
22.55mg sodium

i want to know if thats doing me any harm,

[Hilly needs help]

holllyyy ****!!!
haha
ok then, well this is all to hard to understand,
but i have been offered a tub of clambuterol, (horse version for $150us or $300 aus).
my friend today told me that the horse drug fantisy will also work wonders on weightloss, but with really bad side effects, including death, but the way i see it is "im a fat ****, id rather die tryin to loose weight at 22, than die at 35 from
bein a fat ****"
but what i need to know is whats

the thing with coke zero is every day i drink 2.5 liters a day 2.5 liters inc:
7caleries
35kj on 2.5 liters of coke zero a day
2.5g carbohydrates
22.55mg sodium

i want to know if thats doing me any harm,

[t]

I will tell you that having all that soda in your system is not good for you.

You have to have H2O (oxygen) in yoru system for your body to work well.

I am not going to try to sell you anything at all. Even though I take meds, I really the best way to lose weight is the natural way, but right now I need a little help.

LOOK - come to mydietsolutions.com and learn a bunch of healthy information.

Everyone there talks about a bunch of healthy stuff. There is a nutritionist they just hired who is online part time to help with any questions you have.

ALSO, call the nurses for help! They will help you as much as they can and you don't have to purchase anything to call.

They really want to help people.

I really want you to get help, and if you are online, you need people who really care.

mydietsolutions.com is that place.  I promise you don't have to buy anything to get the answers you need.

I hope you find help with this.

T&A

[fightu35]

im thinking  Hilly is not for real..lol you cant even spell clenbuterol....and its very rare to cause death...need to know how much to take and when...just ask the master...me

[kelkel1]

how do i buy clenbuterol? real legit clenbuterol? if anyone knows pls let me know!

[That girl over there]

Oh my goodness. I take a day off and look what happens to fightu and his posting. Fightu, I have said it a thousand times and I will keep saying this to you. It is NOT, I repeat not, urine. It is a peptide hormone found IN the urine, just as it is also found in the placenta, and in the blood. Truly, if you want to sound knowledgeable or be taken seriously, you need to at least get that correct.

Secondly, for you to discredit another person because of their spelling, caused me to spit my Mona Vie out over my keyboard from laughter.  Thank you.

Next, and this is for Hilly...the reason you are not losing the weight, is because your metabolism is close to nil. On the surface, I can tell you it will be for the dysfunction of your body organs. You are not drinking water (very needed for maintaining a healthy body, and even more needed to lose weight).
Also, the amount of soda you are putting into your body is extremely unhealthy, only contributing to the problem.  I pray that you have not harmed your body beyond repair at this point. Go to your doctor.  At this point, the added weight is not my greatest concern, although you do need to lose the weight for your health as well, but your poor nutritional intake needs immediate attention.

Adding more drugs to your body will only in fact compound the problem to the point that you will either land yourself in the hospital fighting for your life, doing serious damage to your liver, heart, kidneys and other organs or losing all the weight you want, but regaining it after you stop taking the drugs, and begin to eat normally once again.

Not that I doubt you are a real person with a real issue, however I want to warn you that if you do not seek medical help, and counseling immediately, you are doing yourself a grave disservice.  If you are seriously wanting help, then go get it at your local Physicans office. While waiting for your appoitment, drink water. (approx 2 liters per day)

Fightu, one last thing...you are an idiot, but I admire your convictions, even if misguided and completely off base. It is not urine, and it was not intended for steroid users, they were just abusing its benefits long before it was 'popular' for nutritional use during weight loss.

There is proof, open your eyes.

[fightu35]

I AM THE CLENBUTEROL MASTER..TALK TO ME..

[fightu35]

WHAT 1 SECOND !! DID YOU SAY  MONA VIE !  LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  WOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO I BET YOU SELL IT ALSO..LOL

IM A PRO ON IT..ASK AWAY..

[going4thin]

That Girl -  Thanks so much for all your very informative posts. Keep 'em coming.

Hilly  -  I totally agree with That Girl.  You need to quit drinking diet soda's.  The artificial sweetners are very bad for you.....this comes from a former Diet Coke addict.   Also, the artificial sweetners also inhibit wieght loss and even can cause you to gain weight.  So desipite the "diet" label it's certainly not diet.

One warning for you WHEN you quit (not if).  You may have some pretty bad headaches due to the caffeine withdrawal.   But these will only last a week or two.    Also, it will be really hard at first but start drinking about 1/2 oz of water per lb you weight.  After a few weeks you'll find yourself craving water instead of soda.   I've had 2 sodas since I quite about 2.5 months ago.  they don't taste all that good. Water starts tasting much better.  

[That girl over there]

No, I do not sell Mona Vie.  I am not a salesperson for any venue.
I find the purchase convenient, instead of importing my previous selections.  

Now, before you go off on one of your obtuse tantrums, you better brace yourself for one huge battle. My mother drinks Mona Vie, given to her by her oncologist, as part of her battle with Cancer. You say you are a "pro"? I doubt that very much.  Importing the previous alternative was made obsolete by the availability of the MV and the benefit it is providing are unprecedented.

You claim to be a pro on many and all things fightu, and yet, I am still not impressed.  For such a uniquely self proclaimed expert, I am mystified as to why you are on this particular forum to begin with.  Antagonist? Dissatisfied consumer?


For everyone else here, Thank you, you are welcome, and it is my pleasure to be here. It is my hope that I may bring to you a well rounded informational highway, rather than those of sales people, hypocrisy, and "all knowing" idiots.

[fightu35]

So..you fully belevie MONA VIE is a GOD send... ?? antoxients ,are never a bad thing..there is shell fish in there..vitamins..chondriten..etc....as far as cureing cancer...thats a stretch...and no I dont find cancer a joke and would not disrespect anyone with it..so good luck to her...studies proved it cured  certain types of cancer in a petri dish yes..but beware whos 'selling' it..its a huge..huge marketing thing right know now as pyramid..and people are makeing plenty of $$...do I think its a good product...umm..for the price..not sure..liquid is always better.. it def cant hurt ..as long as people can afford it..but there is no reason to pay top dollar. acai is every where i took it over 3 years ago in pill form..so its not new at all....I have a few bottles I was givin..hey it does not taste bad..so that good..good luck to your mom..

i do have a  ? though(Thank you, you are welcome, and it is my pleasure to be here. It is my hope that I may bring to you a well rounded informational highway,)...why is it you think its your need..or job to be here and reply to each and every post ?? some of these people believe  everything you say...which..your not 100% right 100% of the time..and at times your very misleading..and sound 'matter of fact' which you 100% are not..mostly down playing the side affects of HCG and the facts...have a nice day

[fightu35]

I have a  ? since you attack everything i type..well this is from the countrys leading ,most respected & #1 medical joun. so whats your reply to this...

"An article in JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) stated:

"No convincing scientific evidence exists that human chorionic gonadotropin has any pharmacologic effect in weight reduction. Hence, claims to the public that such effects do occur are a misrepresentation of the scientific facts."
FDA requires all labeling and advertising of HCG to state that it has not been demonstrated to be effective in the treatment of obesity. The ads must also state that HCG is not approved by FDA as safe and effective in treatment of obesity of weight control.

[Satriana]

I was so glad to see the hcg was working for you. I work out all the time and eat very little and feel like I am going to die sometimes which is why I was interested in this post when I saw the heading.
I have a question for you. When I work out, after I cool down and drink my water, I am so hungry my stomach hurts. its also very loud and embarrassing when it grumbles in public. Nothing like the fat chicks tummy rumbling to make your day I tell you,
I am losing about half a pound or less a week. I eat just under 1000 calories a day. and work out 4 times a week. but I have no energy and I am so hungry I want to eat my car. How are you feeling after the workouts?

[Allyn]

Hilly,

I'd be very careful with Clen.  It can jack up your heart rate. I've tried it but it   didn't do anyrthing for me.

You might benefit from reading Tom Venuto's book - "Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle."  It also has a forum with lots of help & support from others.

For God Sakes!!! - Get off the Coke Zero and start putting some good water into your body.  

[mitsch]

Hilly,
I like you hate water.  However, if you need to lose weight then your body needs water.  I add lemon or lime juice to my water and some Stevia, which is a natural sweetener.  Another way to get your water is to make iced herbal tea with or without sweetener.  Good luck on losing weight.  I agree with That girl over there, you should see a doctor, or naturapath.  I too am on HCG, I have more energy than I have had in 20 years.  I am on a 500 calorie diet, but am having problems eating that much. Once you take Bread, Pasta, Sugar, Flour and all offending processed food and fast food out of the picture you can eat a whole lot of food for 500 calories.

[Moree]

I have not been ANY therapy and am just now resarchig this.  Just heard about it today.  But if you want scentific proof see: American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 26: February, 1973 pp 211-218.  This is also known as the Asher-Harper Study.  Google it and see for yourself.  Anyone else out there, check it out.  I work for an MD and he checked this before writing any Rx for this.  Just thought I'd throw this out for those of us who are still unsure about hCG.

[fightu35]

1973..lol your kidding right ??
where did you get your HCG MITSCH ?? or anyone >?

[agelicasoulini]

Hi!!!!!=] i'm 18 and i'm fat =[ i want to lose abpout 10 pounds (not much) but i have no idea about "clen" apart from the part that helps you loose weight despite the fact that it is used on horses an asthma treatment...i was an athlete so i don't have any problem in exersising, if that's what is needed in order to get the pill to work...From you, if that is possible, i would like to inform me about the doses that a person in my age should take, if exersise is really important in order to get the pill working right...Also what are the side effects and if there is any possibility of alergic (allergic) sock or any other seriouse side effects after the first doses and after the time period that it is needed in order to loose the 10 pounds...I really need these information beacase I'm depressed about my weight despite the fact its not much(65kg)....I'm from greece...Finally where could i perchase it??....Thnx for your time...Plz answer back.....=/=/    

[HelenaR]

yeah let  fightu think that hcg is urine so next time somebody says theyre taking testosterones he would start ranting about injecting gonadal cells into ones body or brain matter for growth hormone. IT IS NOT URINE! WHY INJECT URINE? IT IS A WASTE MATTER! IF ANY HORMONES ARE FOUND IN POO WOULD U INGEST POO? gawd! you need to be educated!

[HelenaR]

so ahhmmm if i wanna get high, should i wait for a heroin addict to pee and inject myself with it? hcg is found (detected) it is merely a residue excreted from ones pregnant self doesnt mean it is the source it has to come from somewhere! just because you read the word urine you up and go going crazy stopping ppl to take hcg, theyre taking hcg not urine. otherwise theyd say im injecting pregnant ****! even horses get pregnant and has hcg so why dont ppl inject pregnant horse urine, if that is the case it doesnt have to be human **** so go educating ppl that hcg is pregnant horse urine in the market, i mean how many pregnant women pee in a cup for mass production? horses or cattle would be a better idea if pharmaceuticals wanna get a hold of pregnant urine that has hcg. listen to yourself make a fool out of you time and time again, why dont you ask your doctor friend what is hcg. you have internet google it. it doesnt say hcg is urine it says its a hormone secreted during pregnancy! youre ridiculus. how old are you anyway? i cant seem to understand why u think what you think, are you mentally impaired or something? theres gotta be something wrong with you cause youre lacking COMMON SENSE.