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Tweetiebird

Sep 30, 2010

I have read all the posts here, and I too have been having the same problem. Disparneuria, vaginal fissures, stabbing pain, burning and sometimes itching. I have been dealing with this for over 10 years!!!!!! And I have been through 8 doctors, and have been told I'm an enigma. I was seen by a vulvologist for vulvadynia, have been tested for all stds and all are negative, even herpes, so nothing shows up to explain the pain. Finally, 13 years later and doctor # 9, takes a simple wet prep and says I have vaginal strep and have no "normal" bacteria in my vagina. I'm told that this can explain all my symptoms, and that I have to restore the natural vaginal flora with a special cream I have to get from a compound pharmacy and use for 6 weeks. I was told this is very difficult to treat because the dr suspects I was over-treated with antibiotics and for yeast when that was not the problem for the past 13 years!!!! Because of this, I have not been able to have intercourse with my husband or have children, which now I'm too old for!!!! I am hoping dr # 9 is finally the answer to my prayers!!!!!!!!!

Ramona0

Oct 31, 2010

To: ramona0

I've spent 2hrs reading, and am glad but still baffled.  Same cuts off and on, mostly on, unbearable stinging and itching.  I know how it started.  I had a lot of stimulation multiple times to the clitoris in a short period of time, including lifting of the hood. So maybe bacteria.  Tried creams, etc. Burned realllllly bad.
Tried to open and clean  - lots white but odorless discharge every day or so for sev weeks. Every time I touched there to clean or look, all skin would split. Discharge has been 70% gone for almost a year now, but tears happen ALL the time.
I tested for Herpes and haven't ever had any yeast or urinary problems. No kids, etc. No problems with vaginal sex, at ALL...JUST the clitoral area and right around it will NOT heal. Creams, washes, no underwear or tight clothing. Use nonscented baby wipes. Like my skin there just tears at the slightest touch, so it's hard to "check" on everything by sight. Dr. says the usual creme, lube, blahblahblah...never have any answers...
Since it's not sex or yeast related, have I just been torn forever?  Fissures? Not sure re the diff between tears and fissures...??????

cerafina

Nov 03, 2010

i had been experiencing this condition relentlessly for two years. my mother after doing alot of research suggested i try 100% pure emu oil . i started using the oil about 10 months ago, applying after i shower and haven't experienced any symptoms or pain unless i forget to put it on regularly. i don't know if it helps every one but it has been beyond useful for me!

Ljohn9487

Nov 11, 2010

To: LJohn9487

I am so relieved to know that this is an issue that occurs offten. And it seems every women is different but we all share the same similarities. I too get lesions and its ALWAYS right BEFORE my period comes on this is also associated with itching. Only one sexual partner, but we do not use protection. I have also been tested for Herpes and it was negative. I douche so I am not sure whether that may be the source of my problems. The last time I went to the Dr I had BV, and I get yeast infections quite often as well. Any one else in this same predicament?

trplashop

Nov 27, 2010

To: LJohn9487

Yes! I know exactly what you're experiencing. I've been told by my OBGYN that my "yeasty" symptoms and fissure are indirectly related to GBS. I was just recently diagnosed with that after more than a year of tests and presciptions. Yes, Terzol works best for me when I have "outbreaks"; After showering, I blow dry my vaginal area instead of hand drying/patting the area---blow dry on cool. I use Tea Tree Oil to moisturize and "fight the fungus," which helps tremendously. I've also been tried more natural remedies so that my body doesn't become immune to the antibiotics when I have to take them. I have been told to reduce the amount of sugar in my diet and to keep my stress levels low. I am 33, had one vaginal birth (10 years ago at which time I was given antibiotics for GBS, too), no longer on bc, but I do have more stress in my life than I'd like. Hope what I've shared is helpful.

lobrillo

Dec 24, 2010

Thank u for this forum! I just started experiencing paper cuts on both sides of my labia just below my clitoris within the past month. I came to this forum in search of information and now feel obligated to share my information in hopes of finding a more definite cause of this condition.

-44 yrs old, married 17 mutually monogomous years
-excellent health-no issues other than lower back (spondylolisthesis, grade 2-3 which i was born with)
-5'4", 120 lbs
-no STDs including herpes, but do get fever blisters and have had shingles on the face
-never had any childhood diseases including measles, mumps or noticable chicken pox outbreak
-DO NOT take any regular meds, can't remember last time on antibiotic
-NEVER been on BC pill
-have given birth twice by C-section
-am not noticably experiencing any signs of low-estrogen levels - libido is intact, body's natural lubrication is working well, menustration is sometimes heavy but regular
-not prone to YI but have experienced when on antibiotics or steriods in past
-recently experienced a milky white discharge accompanied by itching and burning. Upon examination discovered small paper cut-looking lesions on the exterior of my vaginal area located between my clitoris and labia on both sides
-experience swelling, pain, burning and itching after sex
-burns when i urinate, if urine gets on the cuts
-cuts do not seem to be caused only by sex, can occur when i shift my legs or go to the bathroom
-do have high-stress levels (don't we all?), but always have - mom, wife, daughter, friend, volunteer, housekeeper, cook and journalist with daily deadlines
-been using neosporine with lidocaine for pain and to treat cuts which does provide temporary relief, but no long-tern healing, thus far
-treated the discharge as a YI with monistat one-day treatment, but it returned within a 3-4 days
-was extremely worried - make that TERRIFIED - about what could be happening with my body - but found some comfort in this forum knowing i am not alone. However, the lack of a consistent diagnosis, along with the misdiagnosis of an STD (mainly herpes) is cause for much more concern

This problem is obviously widespread and too many women of all ages are suffering. I have to admit that, at first, I was too embarassed to immediately consider going to my OBGYN. It's an issue most women I know would never discuss as something that could happen tp them. I am simply being honest and now realize I was also being ridiculous. Unfortunately, I fear there are more women than not who feel as I initially did. This could be a contributing factor as to why this condition is not easily recognized.
I have done a little research and put some belief in the levator muscle being a root cause. The lichen sclerosus also seems a good candidate, but might be too rare a condition - or maybe not as rare as once thought.
Like everyone else who has posted on this forum I want to know what this is, find a suitable teatment, cure or preventive measure and, hopefully, inform other women who may be silently suffering.
Thanks to everyone who has shared their experiences and also for the opportunity to talk about this while contributing information that may help all of us eventually find relief.
Have a wonderful day

taracookie

Jan 03, 2011

Same problems here...has been going on for over a year. Redness, small cuts, itching, blood on toilet paper...it is worse at night. It's driving me CRAZY and am scared to death that I will have this forever. OBGYN said to try A&D ointment...it seems to help the dryness and sometimes masks the pain but it definitely does not get to the root of my symptoms.

I am going to try the baking soda thing... thanks so much for all your posts and please let me know if you find something that works!

- 28
- Great health
- Very high stress job
- NEVER been on birth control
- No STDs
- Take allegra D & one-a-day vitamins
- monagamous

worriedgurl13

Jan 03, 2011

To: HERPES!??!

I need serious help! I cant stop worrying! My boyfriend and I had sex for about two hours (not the first time it was that long) 4 days ago. And about a day or two ago I noticed my vagina burning soooo badly when I pee, or when its touched even by toilet paper, or doing nothing but sitting. The lower part of my vagina, like the lips outside of the hole I think. Of course I felt sore after the sex because of obvious reasons. But this pain is almost unbearable! I don’t think I have an STD because my boyfriend doesn’t either and he isn’t experiencing anything wrong with his junk. But he did have a cold sore a little bit when he gave me oral sex...could i now have herpes!?!??!?!

Also the burning/chapped feeling continuous on the skin to my butt hole area. I REALLLLY NEED HELP! I just took a bath with Epson Salt. I’ve read some things in here, but I am too young to go to the doctors without my mother and if she found out id be toast! Im 17 though, and Im really really worried! PLEASE HELP!!!!!! Thank you

health_worrier

Jan 10, 2011

Hi guys, I have this same issue with the papercuts and from reading everyone elses, I assume it is the birth control, although I have been on yasmin for 2 years non stop now and I had been on it before this too for a few months but I have only had these cuts in the past few months. Lost are sayin on here that there must be something we all have in common and just dont know, well I thought maybe it could be the sanitary pads. I was reading recently about how they have chemicals in them and because the vagina is warm and moist it is more suseptible to absorbing these chemicals. Maybe this is what is making the skin raw and be responsible for the tearing. I did consider getting cotton re-usable ones but its seems like a lot of hassle especially if your on the go. I might just try getting the ones that say for sensitive bladders,maybe they might have less chemicals in them!
Just a thought and maybe this might help, I'll come back with another other insights or updates I have.

kokina

Jan 11, 2011

To: Tweetiebird

I was wondering about your "vaginal strep" possible diagnosis and what meds you had compounded to help balance your vaginal flora? I think your doctor was onto something. What ever became of it?

"still trying to figure it out"

CA89

Jan 11, 2011

I've been experiencing this same problem. I noticed I had a couple of cuts all around the inside of my lips on my vagina. October 2010 I went to see my OBGYN & she told me I definitely didn't have a yeast infection. She also said it was a bacterial infection. She prescribed me antibiotics to take for seven days straight & also instructed me to use a water spray bottle to clean myself every time I use the restroom & pat dry. After one week my cuts went away. Come December 2010 this time I noticed they have reappeared, but I only have one on the side of my clitoris & around the anus. I'm making an appointment as soon as I can. I'll keep you updated.

chc80

Jan 17, 2011

Ladies..my wife has had this issue since she was young.Before she ever had sex.It has gotten worse the older she has gotten,but I think I figured it out..She has had 6 ob-gyn fail to diagnose this,and I have made it my mission to cure her!!She has had test..showing positive for herpes,but this is the thing with herpes..most everyone has been exposed to HSV-1(cold sores etc),and it will show up positive for herpes when they do tests,because it has been in your system..so don't freak out..it may not mean you have genital herpes,just have been exposed to HSV-1 since they share 50% of the same DNA it will just show you have herpes..

ok next..After alot of talking..trying everything we possibly could..changing soaps,detergents,everything..I think I finally found it,...BLEACH! she is allergic to bleach..,after realizing it broke her hands out,she mentioned to her mom that she may be allergic to it.. her mom said "it makes her sore down there" ..I know,awkward..lol,but that's how the conversation started between them..Well anyways,I told her to quit wearing white undies,and just go with colored ones..and it went from a weekly problem (13 years+) to it only happening one time in the last 2 months..she is finally not having dryness issues,tears,etc..she doesn't have periods since she got the IUD put in,and the one time she had a little problem in the last 2 months,she had used a pad,and she used cheap tp..again I think they may have had bleach used in the process when they were made,causing her a problem..so it was either one or the other,but I think it was the bleach here again as well..

It seems the irregular problem was caused by her having an allergic reaction to the bleach in her undies,and it was only the white undies that were causing the problem..Life is so much better now!She is finally getting frisky..she finally isn't hurting like before.This may not be the answer to you problem,but if you could quit using bleach or coming into contact with it..it may just help!

chc80

Jan 17, 2011

I wish I could edit!so instead I will post again..just to add more..she had all the problems most of y'all did..she would get a tear just by opening up,intercourse,or wiping...her skin was thin,and I think it was leading to more yeast infections..she also hasn't had one of them since she quit with bleach..thinking back more on the 1 time she had a problem..I believe it was the pad..because the irritation was in the shape of it..it was in contact with her for a long period of time,and I think the moisture from her body made her absorb something that irritated her(which I think was bleach)Lord only knows how you could make it wihtout using pads,or tampons,but if they have bleach in them,and that is what is causing you a problem,along with undies that you have bleached..I hope you can find away around it..

fedup43

Jan 18, 2011

To: All

I am astounded to see how many people are suffering with these 'paper cuts' and that the Doctor's haven't a clue! I had my first outbreak of these tears when I was about 15. I wasn't remotely sexually active at the time (although I'm sure the Doctor thought I was lying about that and too embarrassed to say so). I'd never had a coldsore or anything like that in my life although to look at my labia, the Doctor diagnosed herpes. When blood tests came back though, I tested negative for herpes. A few years later at about 19, I thought I had a yeast infection and having been a tad too enthusiastic with itching...well GOOD GOD, was I in pain. Again, Doctors diagnosed herpes and prescribed antibiotics for it. I was off work for 2 weeks with the pain which was excrutiating. Again though, blood tests came back as negative. I was suspicious my boyfriend at the time had been behind my back and after being told face to face I have herpes so many times, you almost start to believe it. I had a third test for herpes upon meeting my husband which came back as negative. I'm sure it's not that as he is diabetic and has never had any symptoms which he sure would have with his low immune system. I have had shingles 3 times and wonder if I have some sort of low immunity to a form of herpes? I'm not a Dr so don't know if this is possible. These tears appear at any time although usually after sex,sometimes they are tiny other times, they don't so much as cause pain but irritate the hell out of me. I thought today I had thrush but there's no discharge and sure enough after itching (it's hard not to) these cuts have appeared and I can't face work. They make me so miserable. I am pretty allergic to everything (cats, nuts, dust - have had asthma and eczema). I am 24. Also sometimes my clit feels as though it has a tiny pin in it? Although this is probably one of the tears, too small to see. I can't bear to go back to the Doctor and have almost resgined myself to the fact that I am just going to have to suffer for the rest of my life! Canesten cream seems to sooth the area.

gillbill

Jan 19, 2011

To: all

I am posting this same e-mail on all of my "watched posts," Because my problem is solved and I want to "pay it forward" one last time before I remove my name from this forum.

There seems to be more than one thing happening. I am writing to those women who: have a reoccurring rip-type fissures on the inside of the labia, between the labia and clitoris, along the natural fold. (Mine was always in the same spot. -Note my earlier posts.) You probably have sensitive skin, you are probably high-stress, you may be more "moist" than you think is "typical." You are in relatively good health-maybe you workout. You have at times thought it was everything from soap to rough sex to a "big" boyfriend. You have ruled out everything, one at a time including Herpies (herpes) and other VD's with a test from Dr. It may be worse with hormonal changes, (monthly) or cyclically reoccurring or just always there to some degree. I had this same condition. "Chronic Whatever-itis" What ever they call it, it means your skin is inflamed. They are naming the symptoms, not the cause/problem.

I went to a Dr. He prescribed a topical steroid and a antibiotic. I also had a infection, which is common when things are out of balance down there. (yeast infections also can be commonly be present). I took the meds, it got better for a week, then came right back and I didn't return to Dr. for another year-just lived with it. This was the second Dr. I went to over the years for it. I had it 2001-2003, then all of 2008-2010. (You can wait and wait and live frustrated, (like I did), or go back as soon as the symptoms return and get your life back! Be assertive! I asked a lot of questions, gave him a ton of data on all that had "ruled out", that I was a serial monogamist that always used protection with my faithful boyfriends... (Frankly, I think he was bored with all of the talk, b/c they are trained to treat the symptoms with the mildest they think will work.) When I returned, He apologized that he didn't treat it more aggressively, the first time. By then I was crying and defeated thinking I would just have it forever. As he explained paired with my research and my first-hand account, this is what happened: At some time there was a trauma to the area, a scratch, rough touch, or yeast infection that went haywire. The body’s defenses are jumping on that area because it had an issue with that area already. My vaginal balance was way off. When the ph changes, and allows more bacteria/yeast to grow, (naturally through the month), that change/moisture irritated the area, increased discharge or sweat from working out or sitting too long, (little oven) irritated the area, my changing soaps and detergents 1,000 different times trying to solve the issue paired with extra wiping, washing and attention to the area irritated it and, it just never got to totally heal. All of the junk I put on it may have made it worse and the worrying didn't help a bit. He prescribed a "Z-pack" Which is Zithromax 250MG/Generic=Azithromycin=4 pills. He prescribed Flagyl 500MG=Metronidazole=14 pills. He prescribed Clobetasol .05% cream=a topical steroid, which I was going to use if I needed it after the antibiotics, but I didn't (maybe I used it for 2-3 days) - I was worried about the steroid, b/c of the fact that it thins the skin and it seemed counter - production intuitively to me). Anyhow the Antibiotics worked great! My body was able to heal itself after the Antibiotic Napalm Bomb. I have discolored skin from the years of trying to healing, but that too is lightening up and I have ZERO pain. It made me think of the "hard reset" on my computer. You know it's not great to do, but sometimes it must be done when nothing else is working. Also, separately and unsolicited -after seeing what I was prescribed, the Pharmacist volunteered that he had only seen this prescribed this way a couple of other time, but that it was quite effective for aggressively solving issues. By the way, he also said, "Do NOT drink alcohol with the one! Like no ‘wine sauce’ at dinner, no 'just a sip of wine.' No mouthwash- It contains alcohol- unless you want to be violently sick.

I wish you all luck in getting your issue taken care of.

Thank to everyone for all of your posts!

taracookie

Feb 02, 2011

To: pH levels

Hi all -
Wanted to follow up on my earlier post. Thank you Alexia529 and other posters who talked about baking soda and pH levels -- it makes so much sense.  I have been trying the baking soda sitz baths, and trying to increase my pH levels overall.  As soon as I took the baths, cut out coffee and tea and started exercising more, I began to feel better and the cuts seemed to relieve themselves a bit... and I noticed that my urine doesn't sting as much.  I caved and had some coffee and tea last week, and I noticed that my urine seemed more acidic and stung more, and I felt the cuts coming back. I really think the pH levels have something with all this, as one of the earlier posters said.  I have a fair amount of discharge -- if it is too acidic (along with urine), it makes sense that it would irritate us down there.

Who knows... I am only just beginning, but I am praying that this works.  If anything, increasing your pH levels have many postive health effects...there are lots of books out there about this now.

To increase your pH level, eat more raw fruits and vegetables and other foods... red meat, rice, soda and coffee, on the other hand, are acidic.  You can also add lemon to your water (although lemon is acidic, it has a basic effect when digested and helps increase your pH level).  I bought some pH strips so I can try to monitor my levels.
Good luck, ladies!

mealz

Feb 16, 2011

I have been experiencing fissures right on the opening of my vagina for the past 7 months. I've been to my doctor a million times. They tried a steroid cream, an estrogen cream, and now they have me on the nuva ring to try and release estrogen right to the site. I am starting to think that my gyno does not have enough experience with handling this type of problem. What kind of specialist should I look for? I don't even know where to start! If anyone happens to know a specialist in upstate new york please let me know!

bataboo

Mar 05, 2011

SOME HOPE: I've been following this thread for almost a year. i've been having the exact same symptoms as all of you. paper-cut-like fissures, horrible itching and rash that extended to one of my upper thighs. It actually became so dibilitating I wouldn't leave the house some days over last summer :( I've been suffering for over a year with it, tried everything natural and prescription I could think of. From diflucan to montistat, apple cider vinegar, tea tree oil, vitamins, benificial bacterias, etc. etc. etc... I'm a strict long-time vegan so overall have a healthy diet, but this all started back when i was eating too much junk and processed foods and sugary stuff. So i know that's what set it off for me. Many years ago I was on the pill too which I know messes things up . (If I only knew that then!)
I did the candida diet, strictly for a few weeks last summer then slowly eased up on it and kept my sugar intake down. It only helped minimally.
So this winter I got serious. I went raw vegan. After three weeks it had lightened up so much I could barely see it. It continues to get better and better, though it does have ups and downs. It flares up when I'm sick. None-the-less, NOTHING i had done before made this kind of difference. I find it easier than the candida diet was. I stuck out 100% for a couple weeks or so and have gone down to about 80-90% raw now. Green smoothies are a big staple but there's lots of other stuff I do too.
I just wanted to offer this idea for those needing hope. It does work, for some it may seem crazy or extreme, but I'd encourage anyone looking to try something new to look into it more. Good luck!

mrsrojo

Mar 25, 2011

To: jillbill

look up lichen sclerosis, reading that your skin is dis-colored down there made me think of it. Good luck. I have just started researching this problem I have hadd off and on for about a year now. I dont have the light patches as in the lichen sclerosis but suffer from the fissures in my outer labia creases. I am going to the DR next week to discuss it, I have been ignoring it for the fear of having herpes..,,though I have never had a blister type OB Good Luck

earms

Mar 26, 2011

To: mindboggled

COuld have cried when I read what you have said. I have had these papercuts for 7 years, biopsy taken bla de bla, with no answer and a swift discharge from the gynae consultant. Like you they come back roughly every 2 weeks or so. I am at my wits end, as I am pregnant and the tears are the biggest ever and so painful. Why does no one know what this is!!! Help

gillbill

Mar 26, 2011

To: all

PLEASE GO TO THE DOCTOR if it is at all persistent or re-occuring....

Demand your Dr. to try what my Dr. finally tried. (and later apologized for no being more aggressive the first times...)

My problem is still solved I drink coffee and workout...no weird diet and no lichen...

My Dr. prescribed a "Z-pack" Which is Zithromax 250MG/Generic=Azithromycin=4 pills. He prescribed Flagyl 500MG=Metronidazole=14 pills. He prescribed Clobetasol .05% cream=a topical steroid, which I was going to use if I needed it after the antibiotics, but I didn't (maybe I used it for 2-3 days) - I was worried about the steroid, b/c of the fact that it thins the skin and it seemed counter - production intuitively to me). Anyhow the Antibiotics worked great! My body was able to heal itself after the Antibiotic Napalm Bomb. Now I can eat healthier and what ever else I want to try with the problem solved!

I am still totally fine and most people who really have a solution don't return to a site like this to leave specific drugs and detail to the persistent problem they are finally rid of... I worry about people fearing something terrible and not going to dr. or trying everything under-the sun over the counter and irritating the problem...PLEASE GO TO THE DOCTOR if it is at all persistent or re-occuring.... it is worth the peace of mind!

AND IF I had read that message (to go to dr.) earlier, instead of all of the posts that listed some or no success I could've possibly been free of this years ago. AND if it comes back I will go immediately back and demand the exact prescription I listed on my previous posting....

January 19, 2011

I wish you all luck in getting your issue taken care of.

Thank to everyone for all of your posts!

mabel124

Apr 01, 2011

To: All

I found this site when I researching vaginal fissures. I was suffering from the fissures for about three weeks and finally went to see my LPN. She diagnosed a bacterial vaginal infection......and prescribed a 7-day antibiotic intra-vaginal treatment. My LPN also prescribed a topical steroid cream. But the important thing is she solved the problem. IT IS A YEAST IMBALANCE IN YOUR BODY. For the past week I have had no sugar or alcohol and I have eaten mostly vegetables. I feel so much better.....and the best thing is the fissures have healed. I went to see my LPN today for a followup appointment and she was amazed at how quickly the fissures had healed. I also used Tender Tush which is a topical ointment from Young Living. I know that I have to change my eating habits. I was under quite a bit of stress dealing with a family matter in February and I think that contributed to the yeast imbalance. Stress is wicked. There is a great website w/ good info: www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com - check it out. He tells you about a test you can do w/ your saliva to see if you have a yeast imbalance in your body. Check out the "Testing" tab when you get to the website.......the fourth tab down on the left. I thought my husband and I ate fairly healthy.....but the glass of wine w/ dinner and the stress combined to feed the yeast. I just picked up Aqua Flora - High Potency 9 today at our local health store today. This product will kill most strains of yeast. Do your research and good luck to all of you. We have to be proactive about our health. Good health is such a wonderful thing.

woman73

Apr 19, 2011

To: ALL

I am so glad to find all of you!!! You have no idea....well, I bet you do! I thought I was alone in this, you know, the weird one, but now I am beginning to see that it's a real problem that doctors aren't really treating seriously (except the few of you that persisted and got REAL treatment, not just false positive herpes diagnoses). I am going to try the Sitz bath, as I do notice additional discharge when I get these "paper cuts," and I suspect that they ARE hormonally related, I've been feeling PMSy mid-cycle, which is a whole other discussion board! But I know that at different times of the month, your womanly pH changes, hence the suspect symptoms.

My cuts are usually associated with high stress, my period or high sugar consumption (all things that can throw your hormones and pH off whack)....I am going to track these things more closely and see what pattern emerges....Good luck to all of you and to new readers, don't take Herpes for an answer!!!

bullhorn429

May 11, 2011

To: ALL

ok ladies LISTEN UP!
I too had fissures for the first time EVER and they did not go away. i was VERY nervous and concerned about them.

they finally closed on their own but the skin was still itchy. the ob/gyn quickly and easily diagnosed it as yeast and prescribed a cream.
i am using 2x a day for 2weeks and everything is perfect down there again!

she recommended was to keep it dry down there with powder, cotton underwear and #1. TO WIPE FROM FRONT TO BACK ALWAYS since this yeast that grows on the outside of the vagina can come from feces. i know gross but makes sense. good luck.

LoveyGovey

Jun 26, 2011

To: Vag fissures.

I'm 28.  I don't take any sort of birth control.  I am a vegetarian.

I just recently started having sex on a consistent basis and I woke up on Saturday morning with what I thought was a tear.  I had sex the night before.  Nothing rough, but I had been drinking and I thought maybe I was too dry and hadn't noticed.  I couldn't remember doing anything that would have torn me and I don't remember feeling any pain.

I spoke with nurse tonight and she said that it was a fissure.  I had no idea this happened.  I don't use latex condoms.  I use polyisoprene.  I'm not allergic to latex but that's what we had.  I've also used lambskin.

Could it be happening from the type of condom?  The recent inlux in sex?  New bacteria being introduced?

I know I probably have to lay off the sex but I'd like this to heal as quickly as possible.

So, yeah, we're not alone and this *****.

harmonie121

Jun 30, 2011

To: All

I have been suffering from these uncomfortable symptoms for the past eight years. A few years back a gynecologist took a swab of one of the fissures which came back negative so no further investigations were offered. I have seen seen various doctors and a naturopath none of whom have provided me with any solutions. I have also had my own theories and tried various home remedies and changes in diet. Nothing has ever completely relieved me of the problem. The condition has worsened with fissures appearing from my anal area, perineum and vulva. The itching drives me insane and the pain has become intolerable. Making love these days is almost non existent! I'll occasionally tolerate the discomfort just to satisfy my husband but this usually makes things worse again.
However there is hope for us all. At my recent routine PAP smear, whilst the lesions were particularly severe, my GP decided to refer me to a Dermatologist who I went to see yesterday. On examination she offered two possible causes: Lichen Simplex and Psoriasis. She took a biopsy and rang me today with the results. It revealed Psoriasis. She is going to prescribe a steroid cream and treatment regime which hopefully will alleviate the symptoms. It's such a relief to finally get a diagnosis and to find a medical professional willing to listen, take me seriously and offer a solution.
For all you fellow sufferers my advice to you is to ask your GP for a referral to a dermatologist, they are specialised in all sorts of skin conditions. I asked to see a female as they seem to be more understanding of what we are going through. The biopsy was only slightly stingy and required one stitch which will fall out by itself. There is very little discomfort today.
My symptoms are similar to all of the posts that I have read here such as severe itching, slight flaking of skin, redness & fissures covering all the genital area. I also have psoriasis in my scalp. It is important for each of you to have a proper diagnosis from a trained professional as there are many other conditions whose symptoms are very similar such as Lichen Sclerosis. This needs a proper diagnosis, treatment and regular surveillance as it can become quite serious.
I will keep you posted with my progress.

Boxed

Jul 13, 2011

So over the last couple weeks iv been takin antibiotics for strept which soon turned to mono. Then a few days ago i had a weird itch, didnt think much of it. It totally felt okay one day & my bf preformed oral on me, as well as fingering. The next days to come got worse and worse. I peed yesterday and it burned ! I looked in the mirror & noticed a small cut on my clit i think from shaving recently. I finally guts up & told my mom who took me to the gyno. He looked around and said i had lesions which caused burning + major scratches. He thought herpes at first look but i convinced him it wasnt. He looked deeper & said i had a bad yeast infection for sure probably from antibiotics. I just took my first duflucin pill but i cant stop the burning when i pee or scratching or my clit being sore. He told me to put hydrocortison cream on it to relieve symptoms right away but i burned even more ! Idk what to do im irritated, its like my body is getting worse and worse between this and mono ! What can i do to relieve the burning, thats the worst part, and the scratching might make it worse. Oh and my period is due soon. HELP PLEASE!!!

AvalonM

Jul 14, 2011

To: Everyone:

As all of you have expressed, this is such an exciting thread to have stumbled upon. I am astounded by the amount of women who are suffering from the same things I am, and it is so heartening to realize that I am not a diseased freak. I am twenty years old, light olive-skinned and have brown eyes, though I am unsure as to the relevance of any of that. I've been suffering with these lesions for nearly two years now, and like all of you, ever doctor I have gone to is stumped. Originally, I was told it was some sort of wart-like STD, which I was treated for. I noticed no changes in my symptoms after treatment. Shortly after I was sent to a Gyno instead of my family practitioner, who decided it was Trich. I was treated for that, and again noticed no improvement. I was given numerous different creams and ointments and things to try, all to no avail. I again switched doctors, and continue to try alternating treatments that provide no relief. I have had a handful of sexual partners, all of which have been clean, and before this condition initially came about, I was in a monogamous two year relationship.

I have one or two of these little "cuts," as it were, and I notice that they occur in the same spots for the most part, are worse after sex, like most of you, and I find that they become irritated by the use of toilet paper or any sort of wiping: drying off after a shower or bath, wiping myself down after sex, wiping after peeing, etc. I've grown incredibly frustrated with the doctors I have seen, as I have also been tested numerous times for various STD's, which have all come back negative. I was on Yasmin for about two years, and last May, switched to the Mirena IUD. I haven't noticed too much of a difference in the frequency or severity of the lesions since the change in birth control, but I do think this perhaps might be part of the cause. Also, when I was younger I had a severe allergy to anything perfumed: I couldn't use scented bubble bath, lotions or anything of the sort. The allergic reaction only occurred around the genital area, and as I aged the allergy seemed to dissipate. I am quite convinced, from the majority of the symptoms and the similarities we all seem to have in common, that this must be some sort of skin issue. I don't have any other irritating skin problems anywhere else on my body, and I am sure that this must be a sort of vaginal sensitivity caused by excess wetness and various irritants. I imagine, since quite a few of you have suffered with this problem for years and years on end, that this may be a lifelong condition and one must simply learn what relieves the symptoms the best for themselves via trial and error. I find that taking plenty of time to do a through, gentle shave, (leaving hair long seems to allow discharge to collect around the root and irritate the skin further despite frequent washing) applying a plain white unscented lotion to the shaved area that will help minimize irritation after shaving, keeping the area clean (don't over do it with the washing, though, this can make the irritation worse) and dry, wearing breathable underwear during the day and none at night whenever possible, avoiding harsh wiping (pat dry only, ladies) and being generally gentle and good to oneself makes this condition a little more bearable and easy to live with. I read a post where someone mentioned laying down and letting it air out, I find that this is also helpful. I've been taking a monstrous handful of immune system boosting vitamins, and drinking plenty of water every single day as well, and this has contributed to a little bit of ease in the irritation I experience. I do hope this helps some of you out, I know how painful, uncomfortable and upsetting this has been for myself so I can only imagine what some of you are going through. Love and luck to you all, my dears.

makeitend

Aug 01, 2011

To: everyone

one thing ive done to ease the stinging and itching is soaking in apple cider vinegar. the kind from the health food store that has cultures or whatever in it. it'll sting for the first few seconds but it helps to calm down and heal the area. not a solution, but better than being in total agony. sometimes i put some hydrogen peroxide in there too. even goldenseal. gentian violet is really messy but soothing. also they sell tea tree oil suppositories which are really soothing and can sometimes stop yeast dead in its tracks. i use cortizone cream at night and when it gets real itchy. it helps. ive had this happen occasionally for 10 years, since i became sexual active. i havent been on birth control in about 7 years so i can rule that out. im std neg. i have been yeast infection and bv prone since i became sexually active. the fissures seem to come with the infections for me, oftenly before my period. i think its at least partially due to hormonal shifts making me more vulnerable to the outbreaks. occasionally i can put my finger on the cause of a bv or yeast infection but usually it seems to come out of nowhere. sometimes i go a year or more trouble free, but ive had years where it happened almost every other month. not fun. try apple cider vinegar for some relief.

VegasGirl75

Aug 02, 2011

I have a painful lump that bleeds after sex. My Fiancé's a bit large but I didn't think we needed lube. My O/B tested me for every STD and he told me that I needed to use lube. He suggested that I use a silicone base lube, it isn't absorbed as quickly. After my hysterectomy, I noticed the fissure had started bleeding more often. My O/B wanted to surgically remove the fissure, but I found that pure almond oil helps with healing and is an odorless, greaseless lube. It's used for massages too ;)

smilebaby07

Aug 10, 2011

so is it normal for fissures to give u the idea of it being herpes cause its the first time i get this & im totally freaking out. idk what to do!

RebafromNJ

Aug 19, 2011

To: It's the HEAT and warmth

Hello Ladies, I have had a complete Hysterectomy 3 years ago, found that I am a diabetic, I'm ALWAYS warm/Hot, and sit 6 hours a day a work and stressed to the Max. I believe it is a combination of things, Hormones, stress, and heat. Please also note that I remember my fist cut after doing laundry, I used Tide, and added Oxi Clean to the wash for my undergarments, I noticed immediatly the pain from the cut, and stopped, a year later tried again, and the same results occured. Just something to think about. I still occassionaly have a cut about twice a year. I keep the area clean with mild soap and water.

angel8083

Aug 31, 2011

To: vaginal fissures

ok ladies..i feel you r pain..i have had these "paper cuts" since april and went to the gyno several times and had all tests done....all negative! She just told me they were fissures..well i cant except that because they are painful and i cant imagine that it is what it is...so i started thinking what i have been doing different since april and after several experiments..such as changing my diet, using vasoline on the cuts, not drinking...etc.... i have found the answer (at least for those of you who can relate)...i moved in with my fiance in april and since then i have used cottenelle wet wipes almost every time i go to the bathroom, even if im only peeing...i just thought it was a nice way to keep constantly clean in case we are in the mood....so i have stopped using them unless i have a bowel movement and have kept them away from my vagina and i have been cut free and pain free for a month!!! so clearly it is over-washing or cleaning or something relating to that..within 2 days they were closed up! so please think about what is different in your life since you stated getting these and that should help! i can relate and feel all of your pain! just spreading the news!

Montereygirl

Sep 13, 2011

I am a 29 year old, and have all the same symptoms. I am not on the birth control pill, and haven't been for 5 years. I have been tested for herpes, yeast, bacteria, and diabetes. All are negative. I get these cuts frequently, and have no cure yet. I have used Iodine solution, that seems to help a bit and fresh aloe. I have also tried DMSO, but once it dries it needs to be followed with aloe or a cream to soothe. I do believe stress has a lot to do with it. Especially since I notice that when I am relaxed and happy I tend to be healthier. Trying to figure out how to manage stress better. Meditation is helpful.

My GYN referred me to a Dermatologist. We'll see what she has to say? Best to all of you, I feel your pain.

jerricabenton

Sep 22, 2011

This is amazing. I was at my wit's end when I finally turned to the internet for answers and found this site. It might sound crazy but it's refreshing to see that I'm not alone. Especially seeing how so many women, like myself, have gone to their gynecologist only to be told that they have herpes. I've been getting these tears for almost a year. They started to show up after my husband and I had sex and he thought he was too rough on me. I went to the doctor and she told me it looks like a blister and insisted it must be herpes or something. I told her that I've only been with my husband and there was no way. She kept telling me it's possible and that I don't know what he's done over the years. I guess I looked promiscuous to her because she actually prescribed me Valtrex. I was terrified. She sent me to get blood work done for herpes, sent cultures to the lab and, low and behold, the results were negative of any STDs. It was an agonizing week waiting for results. I am experiencing a fissure as we speak and have made an appointment with a different doctor. Maybe I'll get some kind of ointment this time or at least some info on how to prevent them. By the way, I am on the pill and I've read a little about how that may be a factor. Hopefully, the doc can give me some answers.

egk33

Oct 16, 2011

I had the problem with fissures around my labia that would show up and disappear for seemingly no reason. I never had them before I gave birth (C-section) at age 40. No one could help me. I started using good old-fashioned witch hazel on the OUTSIDE of my vagina. When the cuts were there it really stung, but after a few days it all went away. I do it preventively a few times a week now and have NEVER had the problem since!! I'd recommend trying, it probably couldn't hurt.

problemsbelow

Oct 29, 2011

I posted this on another thread on here but this seems more recently used:

I'm a 23 year old who has been experiencing similar issues to all of you for the past year. 3 doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. From right below my clit down to around the opening of my vagina I had soreness and some red skin. I would randomly get cuts in random places that would heal but another would inevitably pop up. Keep in mind, I was using all sensitive skin products because I've had eczema for years so I knew it wasn't irritation caused by that (but even the sensitive skin cream would sting if any got in the area).
My condition was originally ruled a yeast infection. I went on diflucam (sp?) and it got slightly better but the soreness was still there. From then on out I've been eating yogurt or taking acidophilus every day. Over the next few months I got tested twice for herpes and once for chlamydia and gonorrhea--all came back negative.
FINALLY I got a doctor with a brain (sorry, my frustration is coming out). I had gone back to the gyno because my last one told me after the most recent cut healed to come back and she'd put me on a steroid cream. She was at a different office when I wanted to make the appointment and so I got the 4th doctor.
POSSIBLE SOLUTION:
4th Doctor listened to my story, took a look, and said she thought she knew what I had: LICHEN SCLEROSUS. It's most common in post-menopausal women but can occur in younger women, men, and children. It's a lifetime type thing (I joked--like ezcema (eczema)) with symptoms that can be treated with a steroid cream. She decided to take a biopsy to confirm and sent it off to a pathologist.
For some of you, lichen sclerosus might be the answer.
Unfortunately, for me, the biopsy came back like an abnormal pap and I might have VIN-- Vulvar Intraepithelial Neoplasia. I would still be in stage 1 which is least harmful. This site can explain better than I: http://www.uihealthcare.com/depts/med/obgyn/patedu/vulvarvaginaldisease/vin.html
Basically it's a possibly pre-cancerous disease with a couple of causes, most commonly HPV. It is important to note that I had the Gardasil vaccine years ago but that doesn't protect you from every strain.
I'm still not 100% sure what I have exactly. I have more tests to run.

I urge all of you who haven't found a solution and have persisting symptoms to ask your gyno to take a biopsy and look for either lichen sclerosus or HPV/VIN. I hope this info brings at least a few of you relief.

NikiD1980

Nov 02, 2011

To: gillbill

Wanted to say how much i appreciated your posts. I have been dealing with the itching, burning and tears for over a month now. My doctor treated me for a yeast infection, then insisted that i have herpes. Even though the culture came back negative, she is about refusing any other testing. Did i mention how tired and frustrated i am? And I just married my long time man and now this.

I am going to take your post with me to the doctor in the morning. Let's hope they listen!

liamh

Nov 09, 2011

I started getting PAINFUL fissures in my vagina about 15 years ago – the pain was unbelievable, even the recommended sitting in a tub of lukewarm water hurt like crazy – I hurt doing nothing. The doctor suggested at first that I had a yeast infection when it provenly wasn’t. To make a long story short – I was referred to a skin specialist who at the end of my checkup, said that he had something that “a lot of ladies have done well with”. I now rub a cream on the entering portion to my vagina every morning. After using this cream for 3 days I was feeling much better. I now have to use it daily or I am in trouble – and about every 8 months, I need to apply it twice a day for a month and then I go back to once a day.

I fully realize this is not for everyone here – just thought I’d share in case someone might read and take the compound Rx to their doctor, as it may be the ticket.

1% Testosterone / 1% H.C. HYDROPHIL PET WMT

liamh

Nov 09, 2011

Sorry - I should have added that I receive the cream from the pharmacy in tiny containers of 25 grams and no more ...... as I need only enough to lightly cover the skin area once a day, and also – as the ingredients start to dissipate after approx 3 weeks.

arose72

Nov 10, 2011

Hello All,

I was stricken with the same thing a few weeks ago after being put on 3 different antibiotics for STDs I didn't have (apparently a preventative measure taken while awaiting test results), which through my body totally out of whack creating an over abundance of yeast, which in turn created the vaginal fissures. My fissures are again, vaginal (internal, not external). I also have Lichen Schlerosis, an autoimmune dsease which affects the skin outside of my vagina, which can cause a build-up of scar tissue closing off the opening and can create exterior fissures.

MY EFFECTIVE CURE, after much research, has been pH infused water (can be found at Whole Foods and I'm sure many other stores), probiotics (I'm taking one that has 30 billion living cells per pill, three times daily), fruit and vegetables. I've cut refined white flour and refined sugar out completely.

In less than a week it no longer feels like someone shoved a razor blade covered stick inside me. The discharge has also lessened.

I hope this helps some of you/ That is a brutal pain. I couldn't cross my legs or sit on hard surfaces.

butterflygirl79

Nov 13, 2011

To: everyone

Hi all,
I have been dealing with this for about 5 months now. First off, I am almost 32 and have never had this problem before.   I do work a lot and drink coffee daily.  But until a few months back, I never had any issues with dryness- in fact I was overly wet.  I was always "in the mood".  Now, unfortunately, I am the opposite. I'm just so glad I have a boyfriend who is understanding!

It all started back in April this year. I just started dating this wonderful guy and suddenly had a yeast infection. I did Monistat but then it came back.  I tried apple cider vinegar, douching with yogurt, eating raw garlic, colloidal silver, a lot of natural remedies.   I went to the gyno and they said I had a yeast infection as well as Trich. Was treated with Flagyl and Diflucan. But then, the pap results came back and they said I also had HPV and an abnormal pap.  They also said I had a staff infection!!  Well. I knew if I took more antibiotics the yeast would come back so I started taking grapefruit seed extract, in water, like 3 times a day.  This seemed to clear up the staff infection because next time I was tested they didn't find it. They also did not find anything else but I began having thick, white discharge daily, and it would get aggravated if I had sex.  But at this point I still had interest in sex.   I kept going to doctors and they said it wasn't yeast.  Determined to handle this the natural way, I did a strict diet and a lot of probiotics. I thought this had all been caused by heavy antibiotic use early on in my life (I also used to have kidney/bladder infections a lot years ago).

Well... I ended up using Diflucan a few more times, because I would get what seemed like a yeast infection with an added horrible stinging, stabbing pain which would wake me up at night and cause me to be so stressed I would cry.  Went to another doc and she said I have these little fissues... like "paper cuts".... She thought it was herpes and was about to give me a drug for that but I demanded an actual TEST before I was going to take it, and as it turned out, I do not have herpes.   But then she did some research and finally figured out this thing called vulvodynia.   Reseraching this I found it it is related to allergies... The turning point came when I stopped using perfumed products like shampoos, soaps, etc.  I had been using Garnier Fructis and I stopped this, and within like 2 days I was out of pain!!!    Now I use all -natural shampoos and conditioners and the stabbing, burning pain is not there.   But I still have the fissures.  And I still have symptoms of a yeast infection, and also the last time I tried to have sex it really hurt. Since then I have not even been interested in sex.

When I went to the doctor and was diagnosed with vulvodynia, they were going to prescribe more drugs, heavy antifungals, but I knew that it may have been all these drugs that threw me out of balance in the first place.   I have another symptom and that is, when I was still having sex, I would get pain before we even started. It seemed like becoming aroused caused pain?!? Does anyone else have this??    Anyway I'm not really ever in the mood any more and if I am, it seems to be during my period which is weird.  I'm not wet down there anymore. I seem to be very dry.   So my search continues for a real answer as to what's wrong with me and how to fix it.

But, I did want to leave a few helpful hints for you ladies who are suffereing with the same thing.   For the itching and pain, raw coconut oil is very soothing.  Garden of Life brand is the best, it's pricey but you can also use it in cooking and it does kill candida!!   I could not even use KY or aloe or anything else, both of those burned my very delicate skin.  But for some reason, raw coconut oil seems to help calm it down and make the itching go away when it comes on.

Also, baths with epsom salts and baking soda help.  Also, staying away from all dairy and sugar helps.

Still have no sex apetite and can't have sex-- but at least I'm not in tears everyday and don't have pain during the day anymore.

When I find a cure, I will post it here, I promise!

sixyearstoolong

Nov 19, 2011

To: sixyearstoolong

Hello Ladies,
I've been dealing with vaginal fissures since 2006.
I have been to over 13 doctors... I stopped counting.
I tear usually in the same spot, over and over in the "fourchette" area about the location of the hymen.
Treatments have been too numerous to list: almost everything listed on this thread to date.
Currently I am seeing a vaginal pain specialist and am having botox injected into my pelvic floor. My Dr. believes muscle tension has weakened the skin (I also have fibromyalgia).
Next week I am going for another round of botox shots. This is my third attempt. Nothing happened the first time, the second time I had pain free sex for the first time in years... but the problem came back after months. The third round of shots, nothing happened I am going to try them one more time and if they do not work I will be persuing surgery (though finding a Dr. to provide it will be difficult) Google: "modified posterior vestibulectomy with vaginal advancement"
Everyone of your cases is unique. For mine I believe stress, sugar and hormones are playing a role. Yeast is involved somehow.
I hope this information helps you somehow, please know, I know EXACTLY how you are feeling... the anxiety, stress, fear and anger. I wish you all a speedy recovery...

jm59

Nov 23, 2011

I am only 16 and i have the same problems, just not as severe, will going to my gp do any good? please help

burkedunn

Nov 29, 2011

To: ???

Wow, I was relieved at first when I found this forum. I began having these painful, itchy cuts 3 days ago. I immediately became concerned about herpes. I saw my gyn today and he appeared reluctant to say he suspected herpes. He prescribed zovirax 5%, flagyl and diflucan. He took cultures and drew blood. He took my husband's blood too. I have been married for 16 years. My husband has gone out of the relationship but it was over 6 years ago. I recently completed a regimen of antibiotics and recently finished my period. I am scared. I have to wait a week before getting the results.

LisaRose65

Dec 07, 2011

To: blueicy333

Yes, I use wipes. I use either Scotts or Cottonelle. Maybe they are the cause! Lisa P.

Sfstudent

Dec 24, 2011

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/15002033/ns/today-today_health/t/what-will-help-my-recurring-yeast-infections/

Vaginal fissures from yeast infections are very common. Though almost all women get at least one yeast infection in their lifetime, some women get recurring yeast infections. An important thing to know when going to your doctor is that the treatment for recurring yeast infections is not the same as treatment for a single occurrence. In addition, there is another, less common yeast species that requires treatment different from the standard to completely clear. Bring this information to your care provider. Get that yeast gone - forever! And stop them from causing you unwarranted pain.

dreamforever94

Dec 29, 2011

To: H1N14HIRE

I'm a 17 year old girl as well, and I'm having the same exact issue as you are. The only problem is the boy I last had intercourse with is someone I have unfortunately been on and off with. I don't doubt the seeing of other women, infact I know, but I also know that if there was to be something personally wrong with him, he wouldn't do anything with me. Anyways, it's been about a week? or couple days since I last had intercourse, but the past 2 days or so the bottom of my vagina, burns when im sitting, taking a pee and it also makes me feel like i have to pee constantly but that could be because of the burning. - SO, if you found any solutions PLEASE let me know.

Yogi227

Dec 30, 2011

To: blueicy333

If you have discoloration and extreme itching that gets worse at night it could be lichen sclerosis - I dealt with the pain and itching for over a year and went to numerous gynocologists who had no idea what was going on. I did my own research online and diagnosed myself with lichen sclerosis - then I saw a dermatologist who confirmed that was the issue. She gave me a topical steroid cream which I used for two weeks and the problem was gone - no more itching. The scarring is permanent and you have to keep an eye on it because cancer can develop but I haven't had any symptoms since and I am so relieved because it was so very uncomfortable. I was surprised that the gynocologists hadn't even heard of lichen sclerosis. I am convinced that it has something to do with Yasmin. I had never been on the pill before and I took Yasmin for about 8 months and this developed shortly after. I think it threw off my hormones or something..... I hope you figure out the problem and get better!

Lani3366

Jan 17, 2012

OK so this all started for me about 6 months ago. I went to the emergency room with horrible pain in my lower abdomen and I was told that I had a cyst that popped. I was then told I had a uti and bacterial vaginosis which I was given antibiotics for. Two weeks later when my cycle passed an I had taken all the pills I was given I had horrible burning and itching again and I was told it was a yeast infection. Ever since then every month a week to a week and a half before my cycle the burning and discharge and itching comes again they tell me its BV or a yeast infection. When the cycle passes I end up with tears in my vaginal area which I was told I had herpes, when I came back two weeks later for the results I was told that my herpers screening came back negative along with everything else they tested me for including HPV and HIV. Every month the vicious cycle repeats itself with so far 4 different doctors offering no solution. Ladies I seriously feel your pain.

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