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The end of my life/ the begining of theirs

Ok here it goes. I have told a lot about myself so far. But not the begining of why I am messed up. Why I am mentally losing it day by day. Why I do not trust. What I have been holding in. I know it sounds like a story book. But this is no joke. No dream. It's you know where darkness in life is.

Facts; I was always different I felt. I became depressed when I was 10 years old because my classmates made fun of me. Also I had two best friends who I loved deeply. We would hang out and play and talk and we had a great time together. Also I thought of their mother like family. My mom was in the bed at that time. She was overprotective and wouldn't let me go outside. I began to be used to lounging about in the house. I loved my family. I never really was good at socializing. I was always a bit of a loner. But I didn't have anger issues or anything. I got to see my family only twice a year when I was a teen. So we were no longer close which made me sad. My mom got out of bed and was grouchy and took her anger out on dad and me. She yelled at me and called me names. She was vey angry from all that was bottled up inside. Later as I got older I disrespected her too a lot. I know it's wrong but I did. But no I didn't spend all my time being mad. But I had my parents my best friends and had no family problems.

The Right before: I guess things began to get out of wack when my dad grew sick. It all started then but I didnt know it yet. I was worried sick when he wasnt well. And when it happened so fast. One minute he was there the next he wasn't. And of course I didn't handle it well. I was in a daze. I panicked and was severly depressed. Anyone would be am I right.
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Still continueing...

Day of Dad's funeral; we had the funeral. I cried a lot. After that we would be going to my grandparents to just have a good cry and talk about it. So I thought. So we went ther. I brought a best friend with me. I was really sad and I didn't need what I was about to hear.
My aunt's big fat mouth say," When are you getting the money? I think I should have gardianship over it. I can take care of it for you. You can call anytime and I will be ther for you." a bunch of ****. At my DADS FUNERAL. She is talking like that. Those vultures! I ended up in the bathroom crying because I was depressed over my dad and they want my money. How can they be so insencitive.

Time went by: I didn't give it to them. I believed I could handle that money with some help from mom of course. And everything was going good. The money was used for mostly necasaties with an ocational shopping and stuff. It was all well. Then July of 07 the best friends mother who I felt was like family who I had a great relationship too came to clean our house for money of course. Which we didn't mind since she worked so hard. Then she was talking about maybe moving in with us. I wanted to do what I felt was right. And I felt like it was the right thing to do. Mom agreed and we had her move in. To my knowlage everything was fine. But the weirdest thing happened. I stopped getting bank statements by mail and I don't know how on the computer. It was weird. Since I didn't talk on the phone I didn't have it checked out. Anyway one of the best friends also moved in with her kid. I was happier than I had been in a long time. Oh boy was I happy. I had mom, my best friend, her daughter, and my other not best friend but to me was like a relative. It was so great. Then one day in October of 2007 mom came into my room all excited and told me we were going on vacation. At 1st I wasn't sure if it was a good idea but mom really wanted to go. So we went and I felt like for some reason I belonged there. I couln't explain it. But I had to ignore it cuz of mom. Then mom told me that the family wanted guardinship cuz my friends. I couldn't believe that. They wanted to do this just because we went on vacation. Yet they can go on a trip well my aunt can whenever she feels like it but we can't. That's whenI told mom I wanted to move. Also my friends said if we move they would go too. How nice I thought. Stupid, stupid, stupid! There's more
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One day my mom lost her mind. She had a schizophranic attack and started acusing my friend of stealing something of hers and attacked me. Then threatened me. I was afraid she would do something. I could have made her leave but before we bought the house I promised mom I wouldn't kick her out I would go. And that's what I did. I took off with my friends. I was the happiest I have ever been for about 5 days until I went to the bank to deposite some money and found out ALL MY MONEY WAS GONE. My family had gotten into my account and took my money! So we had to come back here where I din't want to be. I wanted my friend to take me to the procecuters office but she kept messing around. Now I know why. So because of her I didn't get to go and had no choice but to get a stupid state lawyer. I got tested to see if I was compitent which I was. I was stupidly fooled by my friend that we would leave soon I made some dumb choices to sell stuff because we had no money for anything. But it turned out that I wasn't getting statements because somneone called and requested them to be not mailed. And unfortantly I didn't figure it out until this person walked out the door with my laptop that she was stealing from me the whole time. And maybe my grandpa was trying to protect me from them, but he ruined my life too. He only wanted to control us. So it ended up my aunt got to keep my money. The friends got away. And it would be different if she cared about me. She is super nice and friendly to the other family members but when she is alone with us she yells at us like dogs. Plus she is so so so very poor yet she managed to take a trip 3 times to the place I was going to live. I wonder how? MY MONEY. And now she is with some man who knows people in the courtroom. And I was normal then just used. Now I'm ******* up. I hate those frienmds. I hate my aunt. They win. I lose. I am a prisoner and she gets to have everything. And I belong to her forever. I wish I was dead. I deserve a 2nd chance too. I know now not to ever trust anyone even if they know you for 13 years. And I know for sure my aunt is doing it for all the wrong reasons. I don't even know if I want disability. I just want to die. I'll never have a life.


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I think everyone grieves.  It would be understandable (and normal) for you to panic and then later become depressed.
I think that if we have been depressed before and still have unresolved issues then it is more likely that we will become depressed again and perhaps even more severely.  ??

I felt very close to my pop (my grandfather) and after he died people said some pretty nasty things.  I felt that they were blaming him for their problems.  Things that they needed to sort out themselves.  Their comments really affected me.
I don't think I really got over (or properly grieved) the loss of my grandfather.  It wasn't until recently when my grandmother (my nana) died that I felt I got closure.
Unbeknownst to us my pop's ashes were still sitting at the funeral home.  Putting him to rest gave me the closure I needed.

People will act and react in different ways after someone dies.
Some families even sort out estates, etc before the person is even dead and buried.
It's unfortunate and can be upsetting to some.  I feel it is perhaps inappropriate.
Everything needs to be taken in context though.  Sometimes it may be appropriate, other times it might not be.  If it respectful of the person and their wishes then I don't have a problem with it.  If it pushes the person away in order to get at their possessions then I feel that that is wrong.

You may have lost the money but you are probably better off for knowing what your so-called friends and family are capable of.

You don't belong to anyone!  You will only ever belong to you.  People can say stuff and do stuff but you are your own person.  In some cases you may be limited by others decisions but you still have control over you, control nobody else can ever have.  Your innermost thoughts and feelings will never belong to anyone else.  Not to me, not to amylove, not to your mum or dad or aunt but only ever to you.

Everyone will disappoint us at sometime.  Often they will only be minor disappointments but they can still leave us feeling hurt and betrayed.  Sometimes others are right, sometimes they are not.

Regarding your mother.  When she was unwell (attacking and threatening you) you should have had her sectioned (committed to hospital for assessment and treatment).  She was unwell.  She would not have coped well had you just kicked her out and left her alone.

I think that you perhaps need to address your own health issues before you do battle with your aunt.  I could be wrong.  If you think it is worth it then fight her, fight everyone.
You may be able to access a short period of time with a lawyer for free.  For advice.
I'm in a similar situation with my local hospital.  There have been things that they have done wrong.  If I were well I probably would take them to court.  Only to make them accountable (because they accept no responsibility).  Just because they are a big organization and have power doesn't mean that they should abuse it.  I also are not strong enough to handle close scrutiny of my behavior and mh issues.  I should not be feeling shame, etc though because of how they treated/ mistreated me.

Get strong for you and forget everyone else.  Your aunt is not the problem anymore.  You are.  You are standing in your own way.  Pretty much the same as I am standing in mine.

What is with your mum?  Did she also help deceive you?
Maybe your mother is angry at you because you are both in the situation you are now?  That is not your fault though.  Your mother needs to deal with her own issues and stop making them yours or taking them out on you.  It's not fair to you.

What are your options now?  Ideally, what would you like to be doing?

Me?  I would like to be living independently away from home.  I would like to be able to put up boundaries and have people respect those.
I would like to be enjoying and living my life rather than just barely existing.
I hate the constant struggle when it could be so much better.  When I could make it better.

Maybe you would benefit from some of the free trial sessions on Dr Gould's website myvirtualshrink.com.

You shouldn't be overly concerned about what we think.  It is what you think that matters.  Don't let what we think or feel affect you.  We are all equals here.
Hey and we all make mistakes.  I have made heaps.  More than I would have liked to have.  Don't be afraid of putting yourself out there and of learning.

What did Dr Gould, the mh expert forum doctor, say on one of his websites.
insight + action = change.

My plan is to make changes in 2010.  
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That is wrong what they did to you. It wasn't your fault. I mean you made some mistakes but you learned. And everyone deserves a 2nd chance. It was inapropriate for your aunt to talk like that on his funeral day. There is a time and place for that but not there. But yeah you should have made your mom go to the hospital or something, but not knick her out. I think you need to try to get better first/ Maybe you can fight her but it would be better for you in a better mental state. You could try to find a lawyer who could help that don't cost or something. All you can do is try your best. And just be you. Oh I guess I can see why you are so angry. I would be too if someone did that to me and got to keep my money. I hope you feel better. And if you wanna talk keep on. It would help.
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thanks you guys for not judging me. It wasn't easy now. My mom had just gotten out of the hospitsl. And my plans nothing. I don't want to make plans anymore. I don't work out anyway. I don't even know if i want disability. I do but i don't. It all goes to the ***** anyway. It would be different if she cared about me. I would accept it better. I don't even know if I'll even get a stypen. Which is like getting an allowance. I pretty much given up. My mental state is worening. If I couldn't win then there is no way I'll win now. And she don't even help us out. I have to beg when i get money. I probably won't get a dime unless I beg for it. So it's better for me to just not plan no more and just go with the flow of things. I am tired of things and people messing up all my plans. I'm just gonna roll with it. Absorb into my things and try to just not think about it so I don't go completely insane.
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You're welcome!  If you really think about it you don't judge us either.
It never is easy disclosing sensitive material.  I find it easier over the net.  The same is probably true for many others.
Can't you contest that?  Surely your disability payments should be going to you.
It sounds like your inner child is stomping her foot and standing her ground.  What of how she feels isn't being validated?  Setting goals and making plans does not mean that what happened is OK or that you've accepted it or moved past it.  It means it happened but lets do what we can with what we have now.  Dr Gould would say it's about looking at reality.  Take what you have now not what you did have (back then).  The same applies to me and ... well everyone really.  We can't change the past but we can change now.
But it is doing that that is going to keep you nuts.
I'm in the same situation.  No money, no skills, etc, etc.  Avoiding or doing the same thing doesn't change anything.  Only makes you feel more depressed, hopeless, helpless and desperate.

Would that allowance you talk about cover rent, food, power, etc?  If it does then forget your aunt.  You don't need her, you don't want to become like her (or at least I hope you don't).  It's easier said than done though.
Is there a residential program you could enroll in?  Maybe even an intensive inpatient program to help you build skills and stuff?  I only ask because these are things I have considered for myself at some point.  I think if we do anything it needs to be pretty intensive to help facilitate positive change.
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No she is getting my check every month if I get disability. This alowance thing would be from that money but I may not even get any stypens. So I may have to go to court to try to get a little bit of my check if I get aproved. But she will get all of the check if I don't get awarded any of it. If she gets all of it I'll have to pretty much groval for some money. Like a dog. No I don't want to be like that greedy selfish cold fish. You know what she told me once. It was before she was allowd to keep the money but it was after she stole it. She told me, "If you run out of money don't show up on our doorstep." meaning hers or her fathers. See that is exactly why I don't want her to have it. Unfortantly I think it's to late unless mom can get it instead but that aint gonna happen cuz mom has mental illness and my aunt dont. Unfortantly they are making sure that we can't leave. Like mom and I really want to move away. We hate it here now. We just want a fresh start somewhere else but they won't let us. It's not fair. 1st they take from me. Then they are rewarded. And then it isn't just the money they want control over. It's us as well. They don't want us to be happy and live somewhere else. They wanna keep us trapped here like rats. We have no say where we live or what we do. Honestly I feel like the only way I will ever be happy is to die. Then I won't have to be a prisoner no more. I hate my life and I dread waking up. This is why I spend all my time trying to escape reality in my mind cuz I can't physically get out of this mess. And I admit I tried doing what mom did when she was severly depressed the 1st time. I tried to just lay my life away but it just wasn't for me. My body would cramp up after a few days in the bed. I didn't sleep much. It didn't help me escape. I still thought about the problems and how life is terrible. But it didn't work for me. I know maybe I shouldn't be doing what I am doing. My counciler said that imagination and stuff can be good but that there is a line that can be past that. I don't know if he ment like believing that fantisies are real and not reality. I'm not sure. He don't think I'm there or anything but he kinda warned me about it. But if I don't do this I will go into a daze for who knows how long like I did when dad died and when I 1st came back to this state and moved in with my ex friend not the users but she kicked me out. So she ain't much better. And I can't change anything so I just try not to think about my life. As soon as I get out of doing there things to keep occupied and I think I become severly depressed. I mean I always get depressed but it gets bad. And I don't know if moving would fix everything. I doubt it would, but it would help because it felt right when I was there. And I really loved it there. And it ain't fair that we can't even be where we want to be. I mean they got what they wanted. The money. Why do they have to stop mom and me from living too.
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That really isn't fair. She has your money and stuff but you should be allowd to move where you want to. I'm sorry but thats bull****. She don't have it over you right? Cuz if she does I see how she could have say but still your an adult. If you and your mom want to move you should be allowed to. And I see why you resent her. That wasn't nice to say that to you. She is your family and if you need help she should be willing to help expecially if she has that much control in your life. I see why you are angry. I mean I don't know if you can handle your assets or not but if she is going to take care of it she needs to do what is best for you and that means helping you. Well I hope you feel better soon. I am so tired right now but I am having trouble slepping. I hate that. Well I'll probably be up for awhile. Think I'll watch some tv.
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Thanks for the post. I'm glad you understand. I'm doing somewhat better today. Been absorbed on the computer and haven't been sulking in reality. I don't know if I'm in that danger zone or not but I don't even think I care. Pretty bad huh. I can't help the way I feel. My life is ruined anyway. Well anyway going back on to chat on that website. I hope to hear from you two agian. Talk later.
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You should speak to your therapist.  Tell him how you really feel.
Surely if you're competent you're old enough to manage your own money.
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I have talked about it. It don't matter anymore it's to late. I'll never get my money back. I'm doomed to be controled by my aunt for the rest of my life. When mom is gone I think I'll be put in a home which has now become my worst fear both put in a home and loosing my mom. I'm pretty sure my aunt would rather put me away then have to help me out. I just dont want to live anymore. I know she won't help. She would have to take me places and buy me food and pay my bills. Make appointments for me. She won't help I know. She wouldn't even take me to the doctors when I was having a big problem. I ended up in the emergancy because they thought it could be serios. Luckily it wasn't as serios as they thought, but it could have been life threating. You don't know. Yet one of her friends asked to be picked up (same day as I was taken to the hospital by ambulance/day we asked her to help) and she happily went to take that friend somewhere. So we had to pay a lot of money to take a cab back home. If I get put in a home I'll probably be in a daze for the rest of my life. And I'll have to live with a bunch of strangers who are mentally challenged or mentally unhealthy probably worse and unable to communicate normally. Cuz I think mainly people who are so messed up there is nothing they can do live there and I am messed up but I'm still here broken and lost I may be but my mind still functions for the most part. Sorry to be dumping this on all of you but this is what I think about all the time expecially when my mom took that pill.
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You may never get your money back but you should get what you are currently entitled too.  It is wrong that your aunt controls and terrorizes you like that.
Some people surprise us.  Even those with a long track record.  People can change.
I don't understand why you don't do some things for yourself now.  Or don't try too.
I even feel a little angry and frustrated with you and your attitude.  I just want to shake you to show you what you are doing to yourself.  You can do some of this stuff you say you can't.  I just think you need loads of support to start off with.  I think it's probably more a confidence thing than anything else.
I feel so frustrated and angry about my own situation.

When do you see your T next?  Psychiatrist?
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Are you angry with me for the comments I made?
I feel frustrated and I feel frustrated for you.  I know change is extremely hard.  I feel so stuck myself and change feels like it should be so easy.  I'm sorry if I minimized your efforts and your issues.
Are you going to write back and at least tell me how angry you are with me and how upset my comments made you feel?  I'm insecure too.
I'm sorry if my comments upset you.  Really.  It was not my intention to hurt you.  I guess I'm just really struggling too.
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I just read your messagas yes i found it alittle hurtful. I will admit it. I'm just really upset right now. Not cuz of your comment though/. Not angry just hurt. It's not easy to change and what for so my aunt gets everything. All I want is at least half of my disability. I really want all of it. I know I can handle it. I was doing fine before those people moved in. And I want another chance but I'll never get one. I have tried to fight this thing several times. It's just time to face it. I can't beat her and the really good lawyer she paid for with my money. I can't beat her. My lawyer didn't even fight for me. And no one will take the case. I'm sorry if I want to give up but to me there is really no other oppion. I mean I won't even get some of my disability. It would be different if she was there for me. And she would like work it out with me so I could get some money too without having to take it to the courts. And if she was there for me. But she isn't. So not only do I feel like I have no rights I am controlled by someone who only cared for the money. Honestly I don't think I'll ever get over this. I'll never be free. If I try to better my life it's all for nothing cuz anything I do she will get. Like if I decided to prusue my education agian if my mind was normal and then got a job as a teacher which was what I had wanted to do, or any job I would have to work real hard for my money just for it all to go to my aunt. I don't know if your angry at me. I feel like you are. But I don't want to go out and work hard just for my aunt to reap the benifits. I feel like such a burden. I wished I never told you this story. I feel like I'm driving you away. It seems like people never want to be around me very long. And now I feel like I'm driving you away. I can't even post right. I'm so stupid. I really thought posting was the answer. Now I wished I would have held it in but not because of your comment. Because now I feel like I upset you. I guess I messed up even on the internet. I can't do anything right. Anyway if you don't think I'm totally lame please respond. If you don't I guess it will be another mess up on my part. I hope to hear from you.
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No, not so your aunt gets everything.  So you get everything.  Granted it won't happen overnight.  But you know, like long-term.
Get better first then if it still matters fight her then.
It's not a nice feeling to feel as though your rights have been violated.  You feel so powerless to do anything.
There should come a time when your aunt shouldn't be able to access anything of yours without your consent.
I'm not angry with you.  Or maybe I am.  I feel angry that you don't see that anything you do to better your life will benefit you (as well as your aunt.  Forget your aunt).
No, you're not driving me away.  We're posting fine.  We're both saying what we need to say.  Some of this is my issues too remember.  Not all of it is you or your responsibility.  I'm saying stuff too because of where I'm at at the moment.
Who said I don't want to be here chatting to you?
Here's a question.  What would you say to me if I said bugger everything.  I'm a mess, my life is a mess, I'm not going to try anything anymore?  I am going to eat all the time and spend all day in bed.  I am not going to leave the house.  I am not going to try and better myself.  Hey, maybe I won't even have a shower.  What do you think?  How would that make you feel if I said that or were to do that?  What do you think you would say to me?
I'm not upset.  Do you think this would go any differently if it were one of my issues we were talking about?  I think in all honesty it would be a million times worse.
Maybe I could be an idiot and try it.  I usually just get defensive and avoid acting.
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I don't think I'll ever get control back because I am getting worse. I am gettin younger. I don't see how. Not only that if I don't ever get the chance to prove I can handle it which I won't get that chance cuz I can't find a decent lawyer to fight for me. Plus my mental is worsening. Honestly this mess has completely destroyed me. I know you feel like I'm quitting but I don't see a way out of this. I'm sorry I won't talk about it anymore. I don't want to burden you anymore. It's my problems I'll deal with it. I don't want to bring you down. Anyway I am glad you posted.
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You're not burdening me.  And I am venting my issues here too remember.
You have goals, right?  Things you want to do, so that's not a problem.  Maybe you could try brain storming and come up with a list of possible solutions.  Maybe write a list of pros and cons.  And then a list of advantages and disadvantages for each.
You want to be independent, you want to teach.
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What is going on? I been gone for a day and I'm like totally lost. Are you guys upset with each other? I don't know. I hope you guys work out your lives. And I say forget your aunt. You do what you wanna do. Don't let your aunt stop you frome living.
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No, we're not upset with each other.  We're talking.
I think the problem was that I felt frustrated with myself and with innerchild for sounding so defeated.  I want her to do well and it sounds like she's given up.  I want her to do well for her and not for her stupid aunt (forgive my language).  I know it is difficult for her to forget about her aunt when her aunt controls her money, etc but I want her to try for her so that one day she can be independent and tell her aunt to stuff off (to tell her how hurtful her actions have been).
I can understand how she feels about feeling powerless, etc.  I know that change is hard.  I think maybe I pushed too hard to fix her when I should be looking at myself and trying to fix me.
I think what has really happened though is that she feels exposed and vulnerable and withdrawing helps her to take back some control.  When we put very personal things out there it can be really scary.  I would be scared.  Running away or not talking about it gives the person a sense of power.  These are very primitive defense mechanisms that some people use.  I use them.

I'm trying to be helpful but I think that my actions may have been viewed as me be critical of her.  I'm not.  I understand how important it is to feel accepted for who you are.  I wasn't rejecting any part of her.  Not the part that feels depressed or inadequate or worthless.  Maybe my post read as a little rejecting though.
I think we're both OK?  Innerchild?
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No amylove we are not fighting. I did feel hurt over the post but I'm ok now. Anyway I love the part when you said stupid aunt it made me feel better hearing someone say it. I actually got a laugh out of that. I am frustrated with my life. I am sorry I feel so defeated but I can't help it. I just hope we can get the open door. Maybe it will help to get out of the house. I feel like these same four walls are closing in on me. It is really difficult. I know you want better for me but anything I do is for my aunt. I can't just forget about her. I wish I could. I try to. But I can't. I do feel like I belong to her. I mean I know I am me. I think so anyway. But she has so much control I just don't see how to help myself. And even if I try I am cursed to fail because everytime I try something to pick a path in life I am forced into one. I don't feel like I get to make my own choices cuz **** happens. Everytime. It is no joke. I don't see any fix in my life. I can't help but feel so defeated by everyone and everything. I'm sorry if I'm upsetting anyone. Maybe I should keep these thoughts to myself from now on. I don't want to hurt anyone.
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You're not hurting me.  Perhaps only hurting yourself by keeping all this to yourself.  Especially when it is such a burden to you.
I had other words for your aunt but I thought I should keep it kind of civil.
If you had options (beam the aunt to outer space for a moment) what would you choose?  Did you not want to teach?  Was someone pressuring you to do that?
If I could live my life all over without the dysfunction then I perhaps would have chosen to be a doctor.  Not sure.  Maybe I would have chosen something a little more adventurous.  ??
Can you ask your therapist for guidance in how to get out of this mess?  They might be able to see things you can't.
I feel the same.  Every time I try to become more independent something will come up.  If I had a good therapist then they would be better able to help.  I am going to push for a new (qualified and experienced) T in the new year.  I would recommend you use the system to your advantage.  Be assertive and ask for what you need.  Listen to others feedback though.  Take what works for you, leave what doesn't.
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Well I had to origanally let go of that dream because I had to quit school. So that is when my dreams werew destroyed the 1st time. And since then anytime I get a new goal it gets destroyed like moving away to somewhere that will benifit me and my health and trying to get strong and do something. Not sure what then. But when we left that place cuz my aunt I feel like my brain stayed behind becuase I have gotten so messed up since then. And now I think even if my aunt didn't have control I can't learn new things. But she is in the picture and even if I could learn things and I got my GED and tried to get a job I don't want to have to work really hard on a job if I'm doing the labor and my aunt is getting paid. That aint fair I work hard and she does nothing and gets the paycheck and she will.
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I've been the same since hospital.  I think it is partly due to anxiety, etc though.
I work at home (when I work) and I don't get paid for my efforts.  Not as in receiving a regular income.  It proves to be a bit of a dilemma sometimes.
I enjoy the work (some of the time) but I hate feeling exploited or like I am stagnating.  Granted that is no life and no future.
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I havent been able to get on the computer since that day. So that's why I haven't replied sonner. I have been lousy lately because of that. Hope you check to see this soon. It wasn't my choice to be off line. I'm ***** because all my websiter I had on here I have to retype. And who knows what else is messed up. So I'm really stressed. Get back to me soon.
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