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Sub withdrawals WHAT DO I DO??!!!
First my story. I lost my parents at a young age so I have NO FAMILY but my husband And my kids. I battled w addiction and won, then I broke my foot BADLY and was on 30 10mg norcos a week for 6 mos straight then went wild turkey. Got sick then went to the methadone clinic. Stupid I know. I was put on subs after trying to go cold turkey off methadone and hurting badly. I've been taking 4 to 8mg Suboxone a day for 10 months and am wanting to stop. I'm out and have been off for 2 days. I've tried before and hurt WORSE than the methane w/d! I took 20mg methane a few minutes ago bc I'm so scared of being sick. My husband thinks it's all in my head and is a tough love kind of guy. I have no one to watch My kids while I'm sick so I can't do it at home and let them see me. What can I do? I want to feel normal with out taking meds. Any suggestions??
Hey there! How are you doing today? Please stick around here. You need all of the support you can get right now. I think Nursegirl has a wonderful idea about your husband coming on this site to educate himself. Alanon meetings are also great places for loved ones of addicts to get support and education on the disease. As far as the moving, I think you will be able to manage it. You may have to dig in deep and push yourself, but it will probably end up being a blessing. The more occupied you can keep your body and mind, the easier this process will be. It's very easy to get 'psyched' out and caught up in your head obsessing about using, or your symptoms. Also, the more active you can be, the quicker you heal and you will feel so much better. Exercise also helps with the anxiety and sleep part of detox. Please hang around here. We are here for you. Also check out some NA/AA meetings in your area. I think it's a must for you right now since you have a limited support system. Take care of yourself and chin up!
Hey there, I'm sorry you're going through this!
You've already gotten great advice. When was your LAST dose of sub, and what dose were you primarily taking at that point? With sub, w/ds are usually a little rougher than full agonist opiates, and usually lasts longer as well due to the longer half life and how the drug is stored in the body.
It IS doable though...plenty of people here have shared how they finally were able to break those chains, and also I've seen many success stories also, as I worked in a Sub clinic for a while. It IS possible. Everything you will go through is only temporary. The Thomas recipe is a great guide, I would skip the Valium. You don't want to go down the benzo road, plus benzos shouldn't be mixed with sub anyway.
You're going to need to be VERY proactive about putting together a support system, since you don't have much of one in your life. You need to seek out AA/NA type meetings, look into individual addiction therapy, etc. This isn't a battle meant to be fought alone.
It sounds like your husband is supportive and wants you to succeed, but doesn't fully understand addiction and the detox process. That's okay! If you're comfortable with it, you could ask him to read here, even maybe make his own account and post in our "Living With" community for loved ones of addicts. We will help educate him and try to make him understand a little better what you will go through. If you can find an addiction counselor for yourself, you can ask him to go along for a session or two, for the therapist to talk to him and educate him a bit. Support is so important, anything you can do to make him understand a little more would be very helpful for you. In the meantime, tell him that you don't expect him to understand it all, but explain that indeed this isn't an easy process, and most definitely isn't in your head, and that you would like him to support you, just be there for you emotionally and physically, as well as helping out at home, with the kids until you're feeling better. You state you're being evicted, where are you moving to? You're really dealing with so much, I'm sure that's so very stressful, I'm sorry you're going through that.
You can do this. We will be with you every step of the way. Keep posting. This is a wonderful forum, with amazing supportive people who have BEEN in your shoes. They know what you're going through. You're anything but alone.
Hang in there, you're in my thoughts.
You've already gotten great advice. When was your LAST dose of sub, and what dose were you primarily taking at that point? With sub, w/ds are usually a little rougher than full agonist opiates, and usually lasts longer as well due to the longer half life and how the drug is stored in the body.
It IS doable though...plenty of people here have shared how they finally were able to break those chains, and also I've seen many success stories also, as I worked in a Sub clinic for a while. It IS possible. Everything you will go through is only temporary. The Thomas recipe is a great guide, I would skip the Valium. You don't want to go down the benzo road, plus benzos shouldn't be mixed with sub anyway.
You're going to need to be VERY proactive about putting together a support system, since you don't have much of one in your life. You need to seek out AA/NA type meetings, look into individual addiction therapy, etc. This isn't a battle meant to be fought alone.
It sounds like your husband is supportive and wants you to succeed, but doesn't fully understand addiction and the detox process. That's okay! If you're comfortable with it, you could ask him to read here, even maybe make his own account and post in our "Living With" community for loved ones of addicts. We will help educate him and try to make him understand a little better what you will go through. If you can find an addiction counselor for yourself, you can ask him to go along for a session or two, for the therapist to talk to him and educate him a bit. Support is so important, anything you can do to make him understand a little more would be very helpful for you. In the meantime, tell him that you don't expect him to understand it all, but explain that indeed this isn't an easy process, and most definitely isn't in your head, and that you would like him to support you, just be there for you emotionally and physically, as well as helping out at home, with the kids until you're feeling better. You state you're being evicted, where are you moving to? You're really dealing with so much, I'm sure that's so very stressful, I'm sorry you're going through that.
You can do this. We will be with you every step of the way. Keep posting. This is a wonderful forum, with amazing supportive people who have BEEN in your shoes. They know what you're going through. You're anything but alone.
Hang in there, you're in my thoughts.
Thanks to everyone for responding. I was prescribed 3strips a day then two, but when my ins ran out I have been taking 1/2-1 a day. I try tapering and quitting. But all I hear is to be tough and it's all in my head and I'm a wimp and I need to get off my @$$ and do something. 3 days into wd I literally can't drag my @$$ out of bed. I am incredibly emotional and depressed as it is bc of my parents dying, my brother dying and all the terrible things that happen when I think thing are going good. It's hard to have no one but an emotional hermit to turn to.I too went to inpatient detox and they gave me suboxone. I don't know if I can do this I have no emotional or physical support. Is it true if u have been off for so many hrs that the er has to give u suboxone? I am just too torn about what to do.
I meant no one in my circle understands. Y'all are the only people who have been positive. Everyone else either says "you will never be able to do it" or tells me to suck it up and deal. My husband doesn't even take tylenol and believes all addiction is bs andit's all in my head. I have addict friends who will be no help I'm sure. This is why I'm here...one more ? I forgot to ask. How long will it take to be pain free and normal?
Thank you all for your help and support. It means a lot, more than you can imagine. Ok y'all have given me the courage to try. I have a few questions and please be brutally honest I NEED to be prepared for what is to come. Question #1: my last sub was Friday. I just got evicted (1 income is not enough but daycare is too high) which is ok bc we need a house and we are on the second floor with 4 kids. To maximize my time my landlord said to respond to the eviction on the last day...the 29th. I have to go to the courthouse WITHOUT FAIL on the 4th day of w/d and I will have to move in less than a month. Will this be possible? Should I get more subs and taper myself? (My Dr isn't a bit concerned about my coming off anytime soon.) #2- housework and kids- what do i tell my oldest two(girl-9, boy-7) and that can I do about the babies (2&4) I couldn't get out of bed last time I tried but I didn't use the Thomas recipe. #3 Thomas recipe. How do I get the valium? What can I tell the er (no Dr bc no ins.) To get a small script of valium. #4 will y'all please stay with me? I am serious I have no one but yall at this point for support and accountability. I really appreciate it and do really need y'all. No one understands...
I assure you that this is not all in your head. We all have been through the hell of opiate detox and it is one of the hardest things you can go through. It is only temporary though, and will pass as long as you don't use. I don't know about the ER thing. I have never heard of them giving you subs just because you are in withdrawals. Hopefully someone who knows more about that will come along and answer your question.
A little bit of my story! I'm 34 married with 3 children.. About 6 years ago I went down a long dark road with addiction. Tabs went to heroin . After 3 times in rehab I got on suboxone. I been on suboxone for 2 1/2 years.. I'm 8 days clean and went cold turkey from 2 mg a day.. It's been miserable but so doable. This is my 3 rd time trying to quit. Day 4 thru 6 was the worst. This is the first day I could eat. I still have rls on and off. No energy. I haven't missed work or neglected any responsibilities. Hasn't been easy . Listen you can do this. It's so mental and you have to do things to get your mind off of it. I've taken hot baths, showers, watch good movies, listen to music or whatever it takes. Make yourself eat and drink no matter how you feel. Won't be much! I take b12 and it helps some with energy. Listen if I can do this so can you. My family is so sick of me taken something. My faith plays a huge part in my mental game. God is the reason I'm here and not dead. You have to have a made up mind. A week or two being sick is worth sobriety. For your husband and your children. Most of all for you. Take you life back.. Through God all things are possible.. We're here for you.
Thanks to everyone for responding. I was prescribed 3strips a day then two, but when my ins ran out I have been taking 1/2-1 a day. I try tapering and quitting. But all I hear is to be tough and it's all in my head and I'm a wimp and I need to get off my @$$ and do something. 3 days into wd I literally can't drag my @$$ out of bed. I am incredibly emotional and depressed as it is bc of my parents dying, my brother dying and all the terrible things that happen when I think thing are going good. It's hard to have no one but an emotional hermit to turn to.I too went to inpatient detox and they gave me suboxone. I don't know if I can do this I have no emotional or physical support. Is it true if u have been off for so many hrs that the er has to give u suboxone? I am just too torn about what to do.
Hi and welcome to the right place. I'll give you some of my background. I'm a 10+ yr. opiate addict who went to rehab and given suboxone as the way to get clean - easy. Wrong. I started at 16 mg/day and was at that for probably 4 years. I then started tapering and over about 2 years was down to 2 mg/day and then quit.
My suggestion to you would be to figure out a way to get back to the Dr. at least for one more script and use it ween yourself down. Not sure why you were varying your dosage of subs as it usually a very set amount that you take down over time to get off....so that concerns me a bit. That being said, subs take longer than natural opiates to come off of. I'm 17 days clean and I'm a bit concerned to tell you my experience so far as it may seem to daunting an experience, but if my whimpy *** can get through it, anyone can. I'm 17 days clean and I can definitely give you some insight into what you will be looking at...although everyone is different....we all have to detox and will go through various mixes of the same withdrawls. Let me know if you want me to expound further. Good Luck and tell your husband that tough love isn't going to make you feel any better and could cause a relapse.....in my opinion.
My suggestion to you would be to figure out a way to get back to the Dr. at least for one more script and use it ween yourself down. Not sure why you were varying your dosage of subs as it usually a very set amount that you take down over time to get off....so that concerns me a bit. That being said, subs take longer than natural opiates to come off of. I'm 17 days clean and I'm a bit concerned to tell you my experience so far as it may seem to daunting an experience, but if my whimpy *** can get through it, anyone can. I'm 17 days clean and I can definitely give you some insight into what you will be looking at...although everyone is different....we all have to detox and will go through various mixes of the same withdrawls. Let me know if you want me to expound further. Good Luck and tell your husband that tough love isn't going to make you feel any better and could cause a relapse.....in my opinion.
I am so sorry to hear about your insurance. I know how hard that is. I don't have any personal experience with subs, but there are many on here that do. I can tell you (and I'm sure you already know this) that subs have a very long half life, so they stay in your system for a very long time. The detox can be very long and drawn out. The biggest thing you can do is to stay hydrated. It will help you to heal faster and help to flush the toxins out. If you go to the bottom of the page, there is a link for the Thomas Recipe. It's full of supplements that help ease withdrawal symptoms. I would get some Imodium for diarrhea, ginger root, or ginger ale for nausea, and epsom salts to put in hot baths for restless legs, and aches and pains. At this point the Methadone is not going to do a whole lot for you other than dragging out your detox. If at all possible, try to stay away from it. Hang in there and try to just go with the flow. The more you stress and fret over your symptoms or what symptoms might come, the worse it will be. Funny movies/TV, good music turned up loud, lots of short walks, and keep posting on here. Stay as busy and keep your mind as occupied as possible. We will be here for you every step of the way. Be sure to post your symptoms as they come. We can recommend remedies that can ease them some. Sending wishes for strength, and peace your way. Take care of yourself and try to keep your head up.
I have been under doctor's care for the entire time I have been on suboxone. I am out bc my medical insurance lapsed and I can't afford them. This happened once before and it was SO BAD. I want to quit so I never have the w/d pain or fear of pain again. I was just so scared of my kids seeing me sick that I took the 20mg methadone tonight. I am sick of this feeling I want to be a regular person again but I don't know what the best way to go about this is I am 28 and too young to hurt and feel this way!!!
Hi there and welcome. You are definitely in the right place if you are wanting to quit. Lots of good advice and support here. A couple of questions for you. Are you taking the subs under a doctor's care? If so, why did you run out? Also are you wanting to quit the subs, or are you just trying to get through this until you can get more? If you could answer these questions it will help us to better understand your situation and better help you. Thanks!
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