Suboxone or Methadone?????

[marie1966]

Yeah, I'm thinking about treatment for opiate dependance. And I've heard a lot of mad things about methadone, and good things about suboxone. I have goverment insurance and I'm really having a hard time tryin to find a doctor that will take my insurance it's really expensive. Now I don't mind spendin the money if it really works and its worth it because my habit's at least $50 a day, if not than I shake,sweat,nausea,vomiting,dirreaha, and I've also overdosed and went into seizures on ULTRAM twice because I wanted to feel better and had no pain pills and no way to get any. Does anyone know if insurance companies are paying for the suboxone or methadone. I have a new baby 9 months old, 6 year old, and 11 year old. I've had 3 surgeries in the last 8 weeks. So I really need help any feedback will be greatly appreciated. Also, is it true that methadone is nothing more another monkey on your back and another battle with dependance???

[weaver71]

Being I am a methadone addict and it's detox is the worst of all opiates, I prefer subs. There are programs that will pay for the first year, I personally would look into that. Subs have no abuse potential, no after being used to iv H. It has been 2 years since I used subs to stop methadone, so I don't remember the program name that offered me free subs. I'll try to find it. In the mean time, I encourage you to click "post a question," at the top of this page and start your own thread. You will get many opinions and support here, no judgment, just genuine awesome recovering addicts helping each other. I'm glad you are here, I can't do it, but we can. Lets find you some solutions.

[Fukheroin]

To keep it short,I've been an I.v. heroin addict for 6yrs plus,I earned 11mo. Clean cold turkey by moving from my home state and goin to mtgs.within 2 mo.of moving home I relapsed for 2months,earned another 6mo.cleanand messed up again.i used for 2months.i now have 2weeks clean and am having a tough time of it,I need help but can't afford subs,I can get methadone.i know I'm a hardcore addict,scared,and don't wanna live like this,I would appritiate any input at all.......I'm 46and losing da battle.....help

[Fukheroin]

To keep it short,I've been an I.v. heroin addict for 6yrs plus,I earned 11mo. Clean cold turkey by moving from my home state and goin to mtgs.within 2 mo.of moving home I relapsed for 2months,earned another 6mo.cleanand messed up again.i used for 2months.i now have 2weeks clean and am having a tough time of it,I need help but can't afford subs,I can get methadone.i know I'm a hardcore addict,scared,and don't wanna live like this,I would appritiate any input at all.......I'm 46and losing da battle.....help

[ufindme2008]

From experience....I agree with Lee. SUBOXONE IS A DRUG FROM HELL

[ufindme2008]

Great Advise

[medicineman668]

If you don't want any w/d try the Weismann detox procedure.  they put you in a ketamine coma for 5-7 days untill your w/d symtoms are gone.  people say they can go back to work the day after the procedure is done.  only a few states do this procedure because they put you in an induced coma for more than 1 day.  You are pretty much sleeping through your w/d's while being fed through iv and when you wake up you are w/d free and it is up to you to stay that way because it's a $5000 procedure. I think california does it and i know Mexico and Europe does it for $5000.  The ketamine infusion has been clamied to reset your pain reseptors so if you take meds for pain and want to get off pills this might work for you. I get a 1 day ketimine infusion for pain 2 times a year and it helps with my pain receptors. . I was on Methadone for 2 years 7 10mg tabs three times a day it made all other drugs stop working.  It took me a month to taper off and ive never felt better now that im off of methadone. I think methadone and sub are really bad drugs that I Wish i was never percribed.  Good luck to you All

[Tammie2412]

I've been through Suboxone withdrawal & to be honest, it was much easier than opiate withdrawal  (for me anyway, everyone's different). Unfortunately, it didn't work as well for me as it seems to for many & I relapsed. I ended upon Methadone & have been clean for 3 years. Methadone has a lot of BAD side effects & I've heard is terrible to get off of unless you taper off sooo s-l-o-w-l-y. I've heard at the end you can switch from Meth to Sub to avoid the withdrawal. Once you are down to a really low dose on the Meth. Does anyone k ow if that's true? Im getting ready to have surgery, after that, I'm going to start tapering off. Methadone kept me clean for the past 3 years & probably saved my marriage & my family.

[vicki595]

Oh Marie!!!   This is wonderful news.  How did you find him???  He sounds perfect!!

Everyone is going to feel so good about this and happy for you!  Please stay in touch
about how you're feeling,how long the plan will be,what you're doing for recovery care,the kids,everything!!!

All the best to you!!
Vicki  xo

[marie1966]

No pills i bought were hydro. however i have great news i seen a wonderful doc today and now am on sub. this is a amazing drug i feel great no more wds and i feel great. and he was cheao only 70 for first visit and 40 now on.he started me on 4mg twice for today and i go back tomarrow and hes suppose to up the dose then i go back in a week and then every two weeks. thank you everyone out there for all your support and concern. sometimes it feels good just to know that someones out there and understands what your going through and not being judgemental. i'll keep everyone posted on my recovery.

[Emily_MHManager]

Let's calm down everyone and try and stay on topic for marie, should she choose to come back.  :)

Emily

[vicki595]

OH....I never wear mascara...I don't need it.  I tattooed the liner and dyed the lashes
years ago... Now the hair................CURLY.   YUUUCCKKK  !

[vicki595]

Laurel~ Who said I don't??   LOL     I'm wearing what I call my "sleep and play" clothes.
Very classy with the pearls,though,and lipstick...  :)

[vicki595]

Laurel...LMAO...you are a funnygirl!!!   (I have my pearls on)!!


Marie???   Come back...

[laurel453]

keith, good suggestions , the one abot sub and about those options ( ct/aftercare, sub/aftercare, taper/aftercare...whatever/aftercare ...)



btw, paintedangel.....i see you're now a bluepaintedangel ..

[vicki595]

Painted~   Good!!!   How was it being a girl??  Fun,huh?     LOL


Keith~Good idea!

V.

[keith600]

Maybe those who have been succesful using sub should post more (title the post sucess on sub or something ) cause it usually seems like there are 2 posts on sub,,should I take it or how do I get off it. I also think that each persons option should should be ct/aftercare,,sub/aftercare,taper/aftercare, whatever/aftercare

[vicki595]

LOL  !       Just click on the profile picture and then click on edit.  You should be able to change it then. Let me know~

V.

[vicki595]

Painted~  Of course!!   No problem with that!!!

Here's an idea : Can you post on the forum and start a new thread?  That way we know a little about you,how you feel,etc...you can help and we can help and all be a family again!!!!  Okay??

I'll watch for your post~

V.  xo

[avisg]

Emily great post the moderators have guidelines they have to go by .They also have HUNDERDS of forums they have to moderate .Gnarly ,myself and Sara can try to help the forum members as much as we can  ,However the moderators have the hard part .If you have a post removed and you don't get anything from med help if you ask the CLS we will do our best to find out way ..
avis .

[vicki595]

Lee~  I sent Avis a PM about Marie 1966. Avis has a lot of resources for Sub doctors and locations etc..
Marie is taking Sub on her own...

Marie...post on the forum and let us know how you are now...

Vicki  xo

[leeisgettingclean]

IMO we all need to get back to the origanal person that posted this. If you are more concerned about why and how the mods operaite there is a specific forum called "Improve medhelp forum" your concerns might be better addressed in that forum---

[vicki595]

Painted~  That post is still there,I read it,and I was joking as well.  

It's fine if you want to address your dismay toward me but I have no control over what
MH deems offensive.

You can contact them by scrolling down and clicking on the "contact us" icon written in blue.

V.

[Emily_MHManager]

Paintedangel -

No where did I say we deleted posts because they were "negative".  I said they were deleted because they either violated the Terms of Use or the Forum Guidelines, or because without other posts, they wouldn't make sense.

Please PM me if you have specific questions.

Emily

[paintedangel]

Vicki...Let me clarify...when I mentioned arguing with Lee I WAS OBVIOUSLY JOKING!!Damn shame ya can't reread that post but it was DELETED. I will be sure and make it plain when I am joking in the future...I think ol Lee got it though!

WOW they deletedmall those posts because they were getting NEGATIVE? That is the most patently ignorant thing I have ever heard. Healthy debate sometimes is by its very nature a bit negative...I mean come on here....I reread that entire post and I saw NOT ONE instance of name calling or insulting behavior and did not think it approached being "heated" not even lukewarm. If the powers that be here are going to be that overly sensitive to healthy friendly debate and I feel like I have to walk on the proverbial eggshells then fells I am outta here....its ridiculous.
Marie I wish you the best of luck dear...I wish I was closer maybe I could help.