Doin' a bit of research to prepare for methadone w/d's...

[jewlz2626]

Hello all :)
I have a  couple of questions about my upcoming "jump"....
I was wondering if anyone has ever found St. Johns Wort or Passion Flower to be of any help during withdrawals?
Also, I dont have a current doctor, or insurance, But I was wondering which type of doctor do I look up to go see to recieve Clonodine for my w/d's? I know it is a BP pill, but would love to prevent sitting in a Dr's office for hours DURING withdrawals!
Any help is super appreciated! Thanks!! Jewlz

[jewlz2626]

Thanks! Yea, im really trying to cut down by as small of a dose as possible! like taking a 1.25 piece and cutting it in half! I am really trying to stay as smart & positive about this as possible!! So far so good!  Thanks for all your support! Ill definetly keep posting! Julie

[gnarly_1]

Hey Jewlz good to see you posting and im glad your taper is going so well it can get tuff in the lower doses ....there are a lot of good homeopathic things out there give the ones you
have now a try and see how you react b/4 your in hard withdrawals I found sleepy time tea
was both good on the nerves and helped me relax...I never did find anything that really worked for sleep I just had to grind it out...my phyic doctor prescribed several things
im bipolar and she thought the lack of sleep would throw me into a manic episode
I do know several people that have been helped by prescription trasadone it's  not habit forming and has helped many...my doctor was 100% behind me getting off methadone but I asked for the clonadine but he wouldn't give it to me so I did without and made it
try not to let fear into the equation ....I know you had a bad experience jumping off at 10mg but most people do at that high of dose this will be a lot ezer on you but still expect to feel it...I took it all the way down to 1ml and still went threw withdrawals but they where no worst then how I felt tapering below 5 ml...see how it goes when you start getting sick its time to jump ship and get it over with keep posting for support we all want to see you win this thing .....good luck and God bless......Gnarly    

[Allysyn19]

well, I was lowering my dose at the clinic, down to under 10 mg and I eventually started testing negative for methadone, which means I can't have take homes.  So, I stopped going and tapered at home down to 1 mg.  I have been on methadone twice (dont know what i was thinking the 2nd time).  The first time my max dose was 80 mg, but this time i only went to 20 or 25 mg.  Can't remember exactly, since methadone kills my memory.  But, the end of my taper this time was pretty quick.  The diarrhea is what is killing me.  And the inability to sleep.  I have an rx for klonopin for panic disorder, which is helping with the anxiety side of it somewhat.  I also am taking lortabs, which i feel really bad about, but my boyfriend is giving them to me only when i am totally a wreck.  

I'm really glad to share this with someone that understands.  My insurance does not cover drug rehab, so this was my option.  Gotta love those insurance a-holes.

How are you holding up?  It sounds like you are cutting it down very systematically, which is the best way to go if you have a choice.  

[jewlz2626]

Yes we can!! How fast did you taper & what was your highest dose??

[Allysyn19]

I am right there with you jewlz.  I have tapered my dose down to nothing and stopped going to the clinic.  I am still with in withdrawal after almost a week, even with the taper.  I've been taking Klonapin and an occasional lortab when it gets too painful.  

We can do this, right?

[jewlz2626]

ha! nice... That'll be my problem, I'm already a firecracker :) So I dont need the extra moodiness on top of that! Thanks for the heads up!

[kc156]

Hi.. The mood is a thing I REALLY had,and still have to watch.Last weekend I was riding my motorcycle and a guy was tailgating. At a light in a little village I was gonna pull him out of his car and kick his ***.My bro stopped luckily. Watch the moods.                            karl

[jewlz2626]

Thank you!! Feels great to have others here that know what i'll be going through!! I'm ready to win!! :)

[laurel453]

i took 5HTP after detoxing along with ltyrosine. I didn't have any side effects from the 5HTP and i kept walking into my clean time so i think that it also worked with me, i didn't feel depressed ... not over the moon with happiness, sure but not depressed.

i really think it is very good the way you are preparing everything and researching, you are motivated with what you are doing and this is great, jewlz, you are looking for a new life and you really want it, keep being so positive as you already know this is mostly a mental battle :)  i remember i was so encouraged just by the feeling that i could do it, having a better life and leaving behind the pills was my best dream.... and after detoxing, just being clean kept me feeling happy and i didn't mind whatever i had to go through...i really wish you the best from now on, good luck tomorrow :)

[jewlz2626]

Yea, I was reading about St Johns wort for mood, but wasnt hell bent on trying it, i was just curios as I knew it was mood altering, sort of like the 5HTP, but I know they are different. The passion flower is for sleep as well, I also read it could be like a mild sedative, I didnt know if anyone had tried it & found it work any better that Valerian or Melatonin, which I am currently taking now. Just getting antsy, anticipating the jump ya know?!? Startin tommorrow I drop from 6.25 mg of methadone to 5.6 mg! Im doing the pill cutting thing, not liquid. So I have to be as accurate as I can with going as slow as I can! I wanna do this!!!! Thanks for the help!

[laurel453]

humm .. i don't have experience with neither of them but from what i know st. johns wort is an antidrepressant herb, hypericum is quite common here  where i live, but i don't think it could help you with wds. You need time to see the effects and besides, i know it can have some side effects and i would not experiment with it while going through wds, i would wait, imo.

again, i don't have experience with passion flower, this is for anxiety, right ? i used valerian root and it did work for me with anxiety and even with sleep, this is what i can tell you.

good luck :)