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For those considering Weismann methos or other Rapid Detox...
Before I get into my story, please let me say this..... I beg you to think long and hard about undergoing Weismann.
I had the Weismann procedure done at the Garden Grove, CA facility in 2006. It was the most torturous thing I have ever gone through in my life. I am not discrediting Weismann or other rapid detox companies themselves as I was taken very good care of rather the concept is the issue...
I underwent many blood tests EKG's medical history forms and whatnot two days prior to the procedure. I was checked into the hospital the night before, and given a morphine drip to hold back wd's. I guess they do this so they can monitor my drug intake for 24 hours prior.
I was taken down to the ICU at 0900. I was given a mild sedative Versed while they made preparations.... I was inducted under anesthesia using propofol, and pancuronium, and another dose of Versed. I was intubated, and then given the injections.... I woke up somewhere around 1400 and I felt like my heart had been ripped from my chest.... I felt just downright aweful.....
I was transported back to the medical observation unit where I was given clonidine, ativan, and zofran.... To help with any "Residual wd's" as they call them....
I was discharged with a script for Revia four days later.....
I was miserable throughout my hospital stay.... Much worse than any ct that I have ever gone through.... Hell I ct'd off fentanyl far mosr comfortably than this...
The days to come were much much worse. I got home and All I could do was cry asking myself why I went through this miserable procedure. I was vomiting uncontrollably, stomach upset, chills, sweating, the works.... just seemed to all be amplified from any ct I have done before.
The real ***** was the PAWS.... It was unbearable, depression was constant, from time to time I would get rebound wd's, flashbacks.... bad news.
This went on for a year and a half and I finally sought help elsewhere.... I was diagnosed with Post traumatic stress disorder... believed to be brought on by the trauma my body underwent during rapid detox.
At the time I was in the medical field finishing my first year of Medical school.... I had tried NA, methadone, everything but I could never get through the wd stage. Psychologically, I was ok. I worked around the stuff all day, no cravings, but when those wd's came... damn. I mean still no cravings, but I just couldnt handle physically being sick like that with work and school.... Which is what brought me to Weismann....
I paid $14,600 for my treatment, and was left with misery. Please think long and hard before doing this guys.... You will still be an addict after its over, just a sicker one.
Oh btw, the PTSD and PAWS I couldnt take so I ended up relapsing again... this started everything back up. I am now on suboxone 1mg daily and decreasing. No wd's, no cravings.... Things are good.
Be careful everyone,
Henry
I had the Weismann procedure done at the Garden Grove, CA facility in 2006. It was the most torturous thing I have ever gone through in my life. I am not discrediting Weismann or other rapid detox companies themselves as I was taken very good care of rather the concept is the issue...
I underwent many blood tests EKG's medical history forms and whatnot two days prior to the procedure. I was checked into the hospital the night before, and given a morphine drip to hold back wd's. I guess they do this so they can monitor my drug intake for 24 hours prior.
I was taken down to the ICU at 0900. I was given a mild sedative Versed while they made preparations.... I was inducted under anesthesia using propofol, and pancuronium, and another dose of Versed. I was intubated, and then given the injections.... I woke up somewhere around 1400 and I felt like my heart had been ripped from my chest.... I felt just downright aweful.....
I was transported back to the medical observation unit where I was given clonidine, ativan, and zofran.... To help with any "Residual wd's" as they call them....
I was discharged with a script for Revia four days later.....
I was miserable throughout my hospital stay.... Much worse than any ct that I have ever gone through.... Hell I ct'd off fentanyl far mosr comfortably than this...
The days to come were much much worse. I got home and All I could do was cry asking myself why I went through this miserable procedure. I was vomiting uncontrollably, stomach upset, chills, sweating, the works.... just seemed to all be amplified from any ct I have done before.
The real ***** was the PAWS.... It was unbearable, depression was constant, from time to time I would get rebound wd's, flashbacks.... bad news.
This went on for a year and a half and I finally sought help elsewhere.... I was diagnosed with Post traumatic stress disorder... believed to be brought on by the trauma my body underwent during rapid detox.
At the time I was in the medical field finishing my first year of Medical school.... I had tried NA, methadone, everything but I could never get through the wd stage. Psychologically, I was ok. I worked around the stuff all day, no cravings, but when those wd's came... damn. I mean still no cravings, but I just couldnt handle physically being sick like that with work and school.... Which is what brought me to Weismann....
I paid $14,600 for my treatment, and was left with misery. Please think long and hard before doing this guys.... You will still be an addict after its over, just a sicker one.
Oh btw, the PTSD and PAWS I couldnt take so I ended up relapsing again... this started everything back up. I am now on suboxone 1mg daily and decreasing. No wd's, no cravings.... Things are good.
Be careful everyone,
Henry
WOW good info , but sorry you had it rough , thats terrible.....but you made it out ok?
What a terrible experience, Henry. I saw a program on this not too long ago. And, naturally, they didn't show anything that looked too bad, but there was something really creepy watching this young woman getting this rapid detox and having what looked like seizures and whole body twitching and groaning. It just didn't sit right with me. I missed the end of it, but somehow I don't think they did anything more than an immediate interview with the woman after. I'm not certain about that but I really don't think they did any kind of longer term post-detox review.
I guess just like most everything else if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
I guess just like most everything else if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
I think Henry understands this, but those who read his story likely will not. There is nothing wrong or evil about the Waismann method, and indeed it seems to be the best option in the EXPERIMENTAL field of rapid detox.
In any treatment, a certain percentage of recipients will always yield worse results than others. Short of death, I don't know that Henry could have gotten worse results. Horrible debilitating depression and pain, and then a chronic mental condition ultimately resulted in a relapse back into what he was trying to treat. But did he get what he paid for? Yes.
Because what he paid for was a statistic, not a cure. Indeed most legitimate medical treatments run a notable risk of adverse reaction, complication, side-effect, addiction, or death. Should Anesthesia be condemned because the families of the minimal percent who died have a sad story to tell? Are X-rays, radiation treatment, and various brain scans evil because they can mess with cell structure and cause cancer? Should we sue the doctor when a surgical wound get infected, or transplanted tissue happens to carry an STD despite all caution on their part to avoid such circumstances?
I'll leave the answer to you, because it always is a matter of opinion and risk assessment, and not all of it is as clean cut as a success percentage. Aside from professing only about a 2/3 success rate, Waismann's rapid detox is an EXPERIMENTAL procedure. They can pad their statistics all they want, but in the end, all the information is available to decide whether such a procedure (and all the risks associated with it) is WORTH it to YOU.
The Waismann method did everything it could for you, and that ended up severely damaging you. You, who have now pretty much managed to ween yourself off your addiction with Suboxone. It all seems very sad and pointless, and if there is anything wrong with the Waismann method, it is the way they condemn drug replacement and misconstrue information about it on their site.
All said and done though, it is my unprofessional opinion that rapid detox is the future of physical dependence treatment. As a better understanding is made of both the brain and these chemicals, experimental clinics will come into existence that dwarf Waismann in efficiency. But this progress will not be made if we point hateful fingers at our pioneers.
In any treatment, a certain percentage of recipients will always yield worse results than others. Short of death, I don't know that Henry could have gotten worse results. Horrible debilitating depression and pain, and then a chronic mental condition ultimately resulted in a relapse back into what he was trying to treat. But did he get what he paid for? Yes.
Because what he paid for was a statistic, not a cure. Indeed most legitimate medical treatments run a notable risk of adverse reaction, complication, side-effect, addiction, or death. Should Anesthesia be condemned because the families of the minimal percent who died have a sad story to tell? Are X-rays, radiation treatment, and various brain scans evil because they can mess with cell structure and cause cancer? Should we sue the doctor when a surgical wound get infected, or transplanted tissue happens to carry an STD despite all caution on their part to avoid such circumstances?
I'll leave the answer to you, because it always is a matter of opinion and risk assessment, and not all of it is as clean cut as a success percentage. Aside from professing only about a 2/3 success rate, Waismann's rapid detox is an EXPERIMENTAL procedure. They can pad their statistics all they want, but in the end, all the information is available to decide whether such a procedure (and all the risks associated with it) is WORTH it to YOU.
The Waismann method did everything it could for you, and that ended up severely damaging you. You, who have now pretty much managed to ween yourself off your addiction with Suboxone. It all seems very sad and pointless, and if there is anything wrong with the Waismann method, it is the way they condemn drug replacement and misconstrue information about it on their site.
All said and done though, it is my unprofessional opinion that rapid detox is the future of physical dependence treatment. As a better understanding is made of both the brain and these chemicals, experimental clinics will come into existence that dwarf Waismann in efficiency. But this progress will not be made if we point hateful fingers at our pioneers.
Hi All. I am currently thinking of doing the rapid detox procedure at floridadetox. I have read many horror stories and many great stories.I believe it is almost a luck of the draw as to who suffers and who doesnt.Each individuals body reponds differently to every drug and procedure.I too cannot do the slow detox.I do not have the strength both physically nor mentally to do that.I cant imagine what Henry went through.the suffering after wanting to end his addiction.It horrifies me.I am so very ready to stop this addiction.I am tired of taking these pills and want my life back.its just the withdrawl that I cannot handle.
I wonder if there is something in particular in a bodies chemical makeup that will indicate one will respond to the treatment the way Henry did.So many great experiences and so many bad ones.So confused..
I wonder if there is something in particular in a bodies chemical makeup that will indicate one will respond to the treatment the way Henry did.So many great experiences and so many bad ones.So confused..
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My son did and it saved his life! You need to be emotionally ready though to live life without opiate drugs. He went through 6 rehabs and Suboxone, he got the Waismann Method and stayed with them 2 full weeks. He is following with psychotherapy and going to school. We have been blessed to find the Weismann method treatment.
Henry, don't waste your breath on the naysayers, and you don't have to defend yourself to us. The people who are "blessed" to have received the rapid detox treatment, and have come out okay, are extremely lucky. Also, the testimonials on ANY website that promotes a particular company are ALWAYS positive. Everyone knows this. For example, you will not find on Proactive's website anyone saying, "I hated this cream, it s*cked for me." The same goes for the Suboxone website. Of course they are all positive, it is a website to promote their item. The people who went through rapid detox should sue for their thousands of dollars back, as it is physically impossible to "clean out" receptors without also getting rid of the positive chemicals that your body needs to function. Lets continue to help each other on this site by giving advice, and not by judging people's choices.
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