For those considering Weismann methos or other Rapid Detox...

[HenryS354]

Before I get into my story, please let me say this.....  I beg you to think long and hard about undergoing Weismann.

I had the Weismann procedure done at the Garden Grove, CA facility in 2006.  It was the most torturous thing I have ever gone through in my life.  I am not discrediting Weismann or other rapid detox companies themselves as I was taken very good care of rather the concept is the issue...

I underwent many blood tests EKG's medical history forms and whatnot two days prior to the procedure.  I was checked into the hospital the night before, and given a morphine drip to hold back wd's.  I guess they do this so they can monitor my drug intake for 24 hours prior.

I was taken down to the ICU at 0900.  I was given a mild sedative Versed while they made preparations....   I was inducted under anesthesia using propofol, and pancuronium, and another dose of Versed.  I was intubated, and then given the injections....  I woke up somewhere around 1400 and I felt like my heart had been ripped from my chest.... I felt just downright aweful.....

I was transported back to the medical observation unit where I was given clonidine, ativan, and zofran.... To help with any "Residual wd's" as they call them....

I was discharged with a script for Revia four days later.....

I was miserable throughout my hospital stay....  Much worse than any ct that I have ever gone through....  Hell I ct'd off fentanyl far mosr comfortably than this...

The days to come were much much worse.  I got home and All I could do was cry asking myself why I went through this miserable procedure.  I was vomiting uncontrollably, stomach upset, chills, sweating, the works.... just seemed to all be amplified from any ct I have done before.

The real ***** was the PAWS....  It was unbearable, depression was constant, from time to time I would get rebound wd's, flashbacks.... bad news.  

This went on for a year and a half and I finally sought help elsewhere....  I was diagnosed with Post traumatic stress disorder... believed to be brought on by the trauma my body underwent during rapid detox.

At the time I was in the medical field finishing my first year of Medical school.... I had tried NA, methadone, everything but I could never get through the wd stage.  Psychologically, I was ok.  I worked around the stuff all day, no cravings, but when those wd's came... damn. I mean still no cravings, but I just couldnt handle physically being sick like that with work and school.... Which is what brought me to Weismann....

I paid $14,600 for my treatment, and was left with misery.   Please think long and hard before doing this guys....  You will still be an addict after its over, just a sicker one.

Oh btw, the PTSD and PAWS I couldnt take so I ended up relapsing again... this started everything back up.  I am now on suboxone 1mg daily and decreasing.  No wd's, no cravings....  Things are good.  

Be careful everyone,
Henry

[worried878]

Physical wd is not the hard part of stopping narcotics
It is not dangerous either as a rule unless u have a sever heart condition etc
If someone can afford this, then perhaps it is to somes advantage to do so
I personally, have not heard many good stories, but a couple. of positive ones...then they got home and mental wd hit them and the fun and fantastic experience was over.
as a rule this is expensive as heck....my physical wd lasted 3-4 days and the symptoms were mild altho I was imagining writhing on the floor and throwing up for days!
it was the aftermath that hit me hard....and is what causes relapse....aftercare is helping as u say this person is attempting aftercare.  The ones i have spoken with who did this method were sent home with no aftercare at all.....Even with aftercare, relapse is possible, very possible, just a better chance of avoiding it with aftercare.


I am glad ur friend is doing well....it is just not the rule as physical wd is not the hardship of getting clean and definitely not the hardship of staying clean...it is the mental portion of addiction that will burn an addict everytime

[jwirespect]

I am not sure what you all are talking about . I just witness someone going through the Waismann Method and they are doing wonderful. And after visiting the after care Domus , it was pretty amazing to see how many people were doing so well and gratefull for being able to go through withdrawal with out crawling the walls.
Everyone react different to life experiences , specially medical ones. If you ask people how they felt after a root canal from the same dentist , you will hear horrble and great.
I belive that having people withdrawing while under doctors supervison is so much safer and comfortable then at home or in the rehab.

[salsinator]

Hi Henry,

I know that this is an old post, but I was mortified at your experience.  I did an accelerated detox that was over the course of 8 days - for suboxone - and it was not nearly as bad - but it still was difficult and took about 5 weeks for me to come around.  Glad you are in much better shape now.

[HenryS354]

Hey Hun,

Congrats on your taper! I know how difficult that can be, you have done very well!

I was on methadone for over 7 years at high doses usually maintained at about 425mgs daily.

Personally had I not switched to suboxone I would still be on methadone today. Sub withdrawals are tough, but nothing compared to my methadone Wes

I am out running around and sending from my iPad, hence the typos. I will be sure to message you all the info you could want later on tonight when I get home and can focus on an accurate message for you!

Head over to naabt.org in the mean time for lots of info on sub.  You are at a good dose to invert to! Are you planning on doing this wi a docs help?

Henry

[Desiree28]

Henry,
I am sorry you suffered so greatly. My father just phoned me telling me about rapid detox. I have been on Methadone for 10 years, which has arrested my development. I have been tapering off because I want to switch to suboxon but its almost impossible to switch. Can you provide me any advise on switching over. I am on a daily dose of 20 miligrams of methadone. I used to be on 100 mgs but I managed to ween all the way down to 20. Now I am in a state of constant but minor withdrawals. Should I continue to tapper slowly of methadone or make the switch to suboxon and suffer the withdrawal.

[HenryS354]

Wow,

I was kind of shocked to see this post pop up again after so long!

It has come to my attention that the Waismann centers have been closed down now?

Interesting...  Again though I would like to reiterate what one poster said... I got what I paid for. A quick detox.  Albeit not painless, nor successfull for ME, but I walked out of there detoxed.

I also agree that this is the future of addiction medicine.  Now that it can be classified as a disease, they are aiming at fixing the disease not the person.

I dont necessarily regret having waismann done, but only because I have learned a lot since that fateful day. But in the same breath I could not in good faith reccomend this procedure to anyone.

As an  update, I left the medical field and now fly as an International Flight attendant for the military.  I stopped my sub taper in '08 and went back up as I was having some problems with it, but IM happy to say that today I am on my 7th day free of suboxone.  Hasnt been easy, but its been worth it!

HS