Happy Halloween - Open Forum

[groovygirl]

Happy Halloween everyone - Have a great day and night.

[suzieneedshelp]

Back to ya Mariposa and everyone else!  I'm just getting along still with my stadol.  Had a really bad headache earlier this week. the kind where u feel nausea nd just want to cut off your head.
Take care,
Suzie

[hippy]

donj't ya just love the great pumkin story
with linus

[Witchywoman]

Yay! Happy Halloween everyone.
It's actually my New Years, in my religion. We call it Samhain. It is a time where we reflect on death and rebirth, honor our ancestors, and take an inventory of how we have lived our lives thus far.  There's more to it, but that is the basic gist.

I'm at work, on the most sacred of religious holidays. I wish that my religion was acknowledged, and that I could get the day off to really do the spiritual work that the day encourages.  But, I'll do it this evening, with a group of close spiritual friends.

This year we are also doing a Pagan clothing drive, trick or treating around the neighborhoods for clothes and warm blankets that we are then going to donate to the local battered women's shelter.

The snake sheds it skin and is reborn! (Snakes are seen as sacred sympbols of rebirth in my tradition)

I'm not trying to convernt anyone, just explain what my traditions are this time of year.  

take care everyone,
WW

[PING]

goodmorning. hope you don't mind me asking about your tradrition
( spelling) maybe this is the wrong place to be asking, so i will give you my e-mail address. thank you. and everyone have a pain free day. lee.

                             ***@****

[Witchywoman]

I don't mind you asking at all, but why don't you email me if you have specific questions? I'm happy to answer questions, but don't want to proselytize.  I have respect for all faiths, and believe that love is the tenet that links us.

If you have questions, email me at ***@****
love,
WW

[Bodymechanic]

I am very interested in your experience with deprenyl.  How did it work for you.  How much do you take. Are there side effects or drug interactions.  

I have ordered some online and it should be here in a week or two. I am willing to try anything that will treat the chronic pain, depression and obsession to use drugs.

Thanks

[twindad]

Hello Mariposa, I wanted to tell you that at first, I was a little ticked at you for assuming the reason why I talked about my education seeing as how you only knew me through a couple of Posts. However, I later realized that my emotions are a little on edge and it really doesn't matter what others may think of my intentions as long as I am OK with them. Anyway, today is my 4th day Percoset free, and I feel like **** :-) I am going to stay the course regardless, but found myself thinking that a percoset would sure make me feel better right about now. I decided instead to Post. I am using 800mg Motrin to help. I refuse to use more! My body still feels like I have a lot of restless enery to the point of gitters. I felt a little better in the morning because I went for a workout on the lifecycle and worked up a good sweat. It is about 1:00 here in sunny California, and I feel like I just want to go home to bed and sleep it away. But, since I have 4 year old twins who are stoked about the holiday, gotta do the daddy thing and take them out. Anyway, happy Halloween to all. TD

[Witchywoman]

Hi Bodymechanic,
I'm happy to share my experience with deprenyl.
First of all, I do hope you ordered the liquid, as there is a major difference in quality between the tablets and the liquid.

I currently use just one drop a day, for maintenance, anti-aging, and protection of the substantia nigra, the part of the brain that produces dopamine.  A standard antidepression dose of deprenyl is 5 to 10 drops (one drop is one mg).  I didn't know about dep when I detoxed, but I would guess that it would help a lot, given that our dopamine production is lessened with opiate abuse and deprenyl forces the body to produce more dopamine.

What I've noticed with regular deprenyl use is a subtle, but clear sense of alertness and well being, as well as quite an increase in my sex drive. If you look at the research on the IAS website, you'll see that rats given deprenyl lived 50 % longer.  It currently is prescribed only as an antiparkinson's drug, but does have antidepressant uses as well as plain ol' enhancing of well being.  I have also found that it helps my memory and concentration.  My husband takes it as well and remarks on the same effects. The effects are subtle, but present.

I hope that helps!

WW

[hellbent]

Well, a perc or three probably WOULD make you feel alot better, for awhile at least. Looking back 6mos to my detox, I realize that I could have called a pill delivery in at anytime, and I was horribly sick for almost a month after stopping cold. I am not sure how I made it, but I do remember realizing that any relief I would have gotten was going to be brief, and I would have just ended up in the same situation I had been in for 3 years. Namely, utterly addicted and hopeless.

Another thing I did was to immediately shut my brain off and think about something else, whenever the urge to use occurred. If I entertain the thought of using oxycontin or vikes or whatever, I am in trouble. As soon as I start fantasizing about how good I am going to feel or start planning a drug collection, I am probably already gone. I just don't have any willpower when it comes to that stuff and I have learned to automatically think about something else, anything else.

[twindad]

I guess this is the place for total honesty, so I am goingto say that I have been cheating a little bit (no such thing huh?) I have since the age of 18, and I am 42 now, occasionally smoked a little weed to help with my pain. It allows me to work out, to live a fwe hours of my life pain free. I have always believed in the medical use of pot to treat such things as chronic pain. My wife doesn't know. If she did, boy would I be in for it! I do it away from the house and never around my kids!!! I guess I still feel a little like a scumbag, but I am not sure whether I want to quit, especially right now.

[hellbent]

Yea, this is the place for honesty, not to be confused with condemnation. I've got friends who shoot alcohol into their veins and heroin up their ass. I don't think the fact that you smoke a little weed is going to be a big deal to anyone here.

Anyway, if you are trying to be truly drug free, pot can be a problem. I've never been able to just smoke pot and do nothing else. I made it several months doing that once, then drank vodka and went into a blackout.

For now, however, I suggest you kick the opiates, and if smoking a doob helps you feel better while you are withdrawing, go ahead.

[Thomas02]

Get this: An usually, I was totally out of drugs. I

[Bodymechanic]

I got the tablets.  I have read the ads for the liquid form but every single study I have read mentions Jumex by name. Is there really a difference or is this just hype?

Peace

[GOD]

I guess I'd better say it......

"This forum is NOT the place to talk about drugs in a good way.... And you should be ashamed of (&#&#!#@!"

Nevermind... HAPPY BIRTHDAY you lucky scoundrel!

hehe--

~~~~Jess~~~~

[taeme]

Does anyone know those online "drug store" one's that say you can order meds without a script, or with an over the phone consult, or even a phone consult with a nurse home visit.  Are these true, do they work, are they reliable.  Can you be sure what you are getting.  I wouldn't know the difference between a fraud and the real thing.  Has anyone had experience with these.  Can you really get what you need this way? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[Bodymechanic]

There are many and without too much trouble you will find one. I strongly recommend that you stay away from the online pharmacies. They are the easiest drug connection you can ever get. Imagine having your drugs delivered to your door and perfectly legal.  You could easily get yourself in trouble.  Read the back post from Sean who played the online pharmacy game.

Peace

[taeme]

What do you mean by the back post, where can I find this post from sean.  I see and I understand I am reserved in my decision whether or not to seek such a site.  If I do indeed decide to seek medical advice, meds this direction I do not want to be ripped off, I don't want to try by trial and error I can afford this, can someone recommend which one(s) I should try. I am in a State where kidney stones gets you a script for Darvocet, the doc's are terrified of lawsuits so they majorly underprescribe. I can't even get Midrin or Imitrex for migraines.  I actually have whats called cluster headaches,  I'll have them for a month almost daily and sometimes 2-3 times a day and then not have them for anywhere from 6 mos, to 2 yrs.  But I have it documented in my old records and still they want me to do things like write out a headache diary, and equivalent such fluff. I've had these things now for close to 10 yrs.  I know what not to do.  However, like many people I don't have a definite trigger, most often I am awoken in the early morning with a pounding, one sided, crushing migraine.  It doesn't help that I have no insurance. I can't afford to go test after test after test for them to decide if this is the real deal.  I am ready to go to a different State just to see a doc.  But realistically I can't afford it.  So if you can help me avoid the run around I would appreciate it.

[bmac]

Ya'll stop it,damn it!!None of that talk here misters.

[puma]

Taemee,

You sound like you are going through some serious withdrawals and are at the end of your rope. I've been in that situation and I know what you are going through. People here don't mean to give you the run around, they simply are past that stage and seem to have forgotten the depths one will go to, to obtain that needed item whether it be drink or pill, whatever. Try the onlines but be prepared to send your medical records so the Docs can save their own butts by not prescribing meds by only words given over the net.

Coming here, you will only find people trying to avoid drugs, not getting deeper into them. You still seem to be in the denial stage, only my opinion. I was there before and even thought of violence at times during heavy withdrawal. That's why they say alchohol and benzo withdrawal are dangerous to the person addicted and to anyone in their way during detox!!!!! Your brain is in full amperage overload right now and you need to have some real communication and figure out what you want to do and how to go about it. Take care and good luck.

Chatahan

[groovygirl]

I wrote a story about online pharmacies and the doctors who make MILLIONS off 3 second phone consults.  $25 per month to join the forum, $200 for the 3 minute consult, $90 for 90 Hydros, $30 for shipping...if you don't have a lot of money right now, it isn't the way.  I went "undercover" on one of these forums.  I found that these people are just like us, except they are on the downward spiral...popping 20-40 Hydros a day...with some valium on top...yummy.  They are a sorry bunch, and the doctors don't give a rat's ass about any of them.

As I said, I went undercover and you can bet your ass there are others watching...pretending to be a fellow pill-poppers...probably a fed or something.

I don't mean to be a downer here, but this site is for people wanting to get better...why don't you forget about this drug seeking stuff and write about why you feel the need to indulge.

I'm just a fellow addict...I've been there and done that, which is why I can see the road you're on will only bring you pain.

[FesterTool]

Hey everybody. I havent been posting very much but I try to keep up with what is going on. Everything has been up and down alot lately. I miss my mom very much and I wish I could have her again. I remember when I was growing up and she used to take me shopping with her. Being a teenager I felt embarrassed and walked off on my own, you know; can't let noone see you with your mom.. Mom understood though. She would let me go off with my friends almost everyday. I wish I would have spent more time with her.

I call dad everyday now. I'm not going to waste my chance with him if I can help it. He usually stays busy. I tell him its good for him to do something every once in awhile but dont get carried away. (Where have I heard this before?) He builds these very nice Grandfather clocks in his wood shop and I dont know where he gets all that energy. He's a tough cookie, as he tell me.(By the way, my father has been sober from everything for almost 12 years. I am so proud of my dad.)

Its my 29th day and I feel ok. Pixi, thank you.
Stay Cool!
Festertool

[groovygirl]

29th day!  Wow...that is great!!  How do you feel?  Do you feel back to "normal"?

What's "festertool" mean?

[QueenHydro]

Greetings to you all,
I have not posted in a while but come in every day and read all of the posts.  It is such a comfort to know that I am not the only person with these issues.  I feel like the biggest loser on the planet and when I read all of the personal stories I feel like someone has thrown me a life ring.  I am still working on my plan to taper.  I have been praying alot and also setting aside time to excersize.  My taper will begin in a couple of weeks.  I know that sounds dumb, why not stop now, but I do not
have enough of a spine to stop when I have a full prescription.
I am rambling, I know, but I want you all to know that the kinship I feel when I read the posts here cannot be described.  
I thank you all and will keep everyone updated.  I have been praying for all of you and ask that you would do the same for me, if you are not one to pray then please just keep me in your thoughts.  This thing is bigger than me and I need all of the help I can get.  Thanks to all.

[athena]

Hi fes,it was good to see ya post.I have been wondering how you were doing.I know how the loss of a parent feels as I told you.It is kinda scarey in a way.I always felt safe somehow  while my dad was alive.I too decided to spend more time helping my mom after the loss of my dad.It helped me feel better.i know this is a hard time for you but it will get easier.you are doing so well with your sobriety even though you are going through this emotional upheavel.As I told you,your mom would be so proud!
Your dad makes grandfather clocks?I have heard that there are very few craftsmen still doing that.Im sure it helps him to keep busy.Well,i've written you a novel.you are always in my prayers,keep on the path your on.God bless.

pixi