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Hydrocodone; me and my wife....help please....
First-about me. I have been taking hydrocodone products on and off for about 5 years. I have been taking them DAILY for about 16 months-Vicodin ES and Vicoprofen mostly. I am at the point now where I take about 10 a day. I am just wondering, what is this doing to my body? My heart, brain, liver, kidneys etc.
Also, we just found out my wife is about 6 weeks pregnant. She has also been taking Vicodin ES, (but NOT Vicoprofen as much), about 1-2 pills a day for the entire 6 weeks and even before that. Is there a risk the baby could be affected? She definitely does NOT take as much as I do.
Thank you all for your help.
Also, we just found out my wife is about 6 weeks pregnant. She has also been taking Vicodin ES, (but NOT Vicoprofen as much), about 1-2 pills a day for the entire 6 weeks and even before that. Is there a risk the baby could be affected? She definitely does NOT take as much as I do.
Thank you all for your help.
I TOOK ALMOST 20 VICODAN ES FROM SAT-TUES. I HAVE A DRUG TEST COMING UP FRIDAY FOR A NEW JOB, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET THIS DRUG OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM?
This is from a diff't thread, but I want you to read it for sure....
I have just started Revia after throwing in the towel by trying to do it myself, on will power alone.
I believe it to be the silliest and stupidest thing to NOT do after an Ultra Rapid Opiate Detox. Only now, since I started Revia TODAY, have I learned what it in fact is and the chemical effects and counter-effects on the brain after long-term opiate use. I underwent Ultra Rapid Opiate Detox on 4/20/02, but began to struggle with relapse approximately 6-7 months later. Prior to detox, I was at approximately 600 mg/day of Oxycontin, prescribed by my Doctor and paid for by Workers Compensation Insurance. My spine had some minor injuries that were horrifically magnified because I began to self-administer Opium by smoking it to reduce my pain levels. At the age of 25, my ignorance prevented me from seeing the slippery slope I had just embarked on, and the cost was not an obstacle. (Ironically, the cost was not a problem because I had been working so hard, which is why my spine was injured...The Irony of Life)
The chemical manipulation ones brain undergoes while under heavy opiate use is quite significant. For Revia to be able to rapidly return the brain to its original "pre-addicted" stage is VERY important for the individual that has no physical craving for the drug at all to KNOW. In this case, it is purely physiological.
To throw the term "psychological" around without really thinking about the manipulation ones brain undergoes after being administered 400-600 mg/day of Oxycontin as a substitute for the self-administer of Opiate analgesia resulting from trauma to the spine, creates a sense of naivety about the treatment course and education required for those that are physically dependant due to injury, and not psychologically dependant due to drug abuse. There is an important distinction to make, if only because the former may believe himself to have a strong will and believes, ignorantly, that they can prevent a relapse on their own.
Until the chemistry in the brain is changed back to the way it was, the physically dependant will struggle with possible relapse as does the psychological addict, but they are not one and the same in structure, but surely both are just as important. Unfortunately, the psychological addict will have a longer struggle.
But it is the duty of the medical profession to make this distinction and educate their patients when appropriate, for this tiny bit of logical education about the effects naltrexone has on reducing the number of opiate receptors in the brain, can be the difference between life and death for many.
I Thank God for granting me the wisdom to see the ignorance in my ways, and allowing me to return to my true path in life. Not just once, but whenever I have asked.
PH
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I have just started Revia after throwing in the towel by trying to do it myself, on will power alone.
I believe it to be the silliest and stupidest thing to NOT do after an Ultra Rapid Opiate Detox. Only now, since I started Revia TODAY, have I learned what it in fact is and the chemical effects and counter-effects on the brain after long-term opiate use. I underwent Ultra Rapid Opiate Detox on 4/20/02, but began to struggle with relapse approximately 6-7 months later. Prior to detox, I was at approximately 600 mg/day of Oxycontin, prescribed by my Doctor and paid for by Workers Compensation Insurance. My spine had some minor injuries that were horrifically magnified because I began to self-administer Opium by smoking it to reduce my pain levels. At the age of 25, my ignorance prevented me from seeing the slippery slope I had just embarked on, and the cost was not an obstacle. (Ironically, the cost was not a problem because I had been working so hard, which is why my spine was injured...The Irony of Life)
The chemical manipulation ones brain undergoes while under heavy opiate use is quite significant. For Revia to be able to rapidly return the brain to its original "pre-addicted" stage is VERY important for the individual that has no physical craving for the drug at all to KNOW. In this case, it is purely physiological.
To throw the term "psychological" around without really thinking about the manipulation ones brain undergoes after being administered 400-600 mg/day of Oxycontin as a substitute for the self-administer of Opiate analgesia resulting from trauma to the spine, creates a sense of naivety about the treatment course and education required for those that are physically dependant due to injury, and not psychologically dependant due to drug abuse. There is an important distinction to make, if only because the former may believe himself to have a strong will and believes, ignorantly, that they can prevent a relapse on their own.
Until the chemistry in the brain is changed back to the way it was, the physically dependant will struggle with possible relapse as does the psychological addict, but they are not one and the same in structure, but surely both are just as important. Unfortunately, the psychological addict will have a longer struggle.
But it is the duty of the medical profession to make this distinction and educate their patients when appropriate, for this tiny bit of logical education about the effects naltrexone has on reducing the number of opiate receptors in the brain, can be the difference between life and death for many.
I Thank God for granting me the wisdom to see the ignorance in my ways, and allowing me to return to my true path in life. Not just once, but whenever I have asked.
PH
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Hey, guys. Thank you soo much for your words. It is so nice to hear. You are all absolutely right. I wish I could get away from my mom right now, but I am stuck here untill April 18. My arraingment is Monday. The information attorney was the one who told me what my sentance would be. But, who knows? The DA could have run a check on the pharmacies, the doctor who's DEA number we used could want to prosecute. I wish I could stop, but it's so much bigger than me. On thursday I went all day and night without any Vicoden, 24 hours. I didn't have any physical w/ds, only nasty psychological ones. That's the worst. I figured out from Thomas's message that I am addicted to the whole process. It's amazing, I've never been in trouble or done anything wrong, and damn it it just feels good. But I'm more scared of getting caught than anything, especially since it could happen at any time. And they probably won't book and release me this time either, I might even have to spend a night in jail! I'm scared, guys, all the time. I want to stop, but I don't want to. Sometimes I just want to die, but there's so much to live for. I know that if I got caught again, and had to do jail time, years worth, I would kill myself. That's horribly personal, I know. But it's true. Then why the hell am I ensuring this fate for myself? I think, I know, I need to see a counselor for this, but I can't afford one, and my health insurance for my new job won't kick in for three months. I am very lost right now. I know it must be frustrating for you guys to hear me saying I want to stop, but then I keep doing it. But honestly, please don't give up on me. This is a huge step for me, this sharing. I need it, and I need time. Thanks for listening.
Its good to hear from you sweetie!If you get to feeling too bad and feel you need to talk you can go to a health clinic they go on a sliding scale basis!But you can also talk to us.Sometimes I know we need one on one though.Theres always help out there you just have to look.I talked with you when you were posting before I was J.E.W. Then.If you want you can e'mail me at ***@**** have got to get out of this situation. i'm sooooooooooo sorry that your mother treats you like this.That is so sad.Shes supposed to help and protect you not get you into trouble.Please feel free to e'mail me at anytime,I work different hours all the time but will respond as soon as I can.Take care sweetie and let us know how it goes at court.((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))) Jerri
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I messed up my e'mails ***@****.. Jerri
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