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On day 8 and confused???
So I thought I was doing so well around day 5.... Optimistic, accomplishing stuff, not hurting so bad, etc, etc... Well, now here I am on day 8 and yesterday, last night, and this morning have been impossible it seems!! I'm hurting, don't want to move, no sleep, and not looking forward to anything I have to do today (even going to dinner tonight)!!
My question is.... Around what day does the rollercoaster stop? When will I be happy every day and not hurt every day instead of decent one day and feeling like crap the next??? This *****! PLEASE DONT SAY IN ANOTHER 22 DAYS! 'Sad'
My question is.... Around what day does the rollercoaster stop? When will I be happy every day and not hurt every day instead of decent one day and feeling like crap the next??? This *****! PLEASE DONT SAY IN ANOTHER 22 DAYS! 'Sad'
I, too, believe in the laws of attraction but in order for them to work, you have to be a really focused person with as firm a grasp on your 'Truth' as possible. Otherwise, your subconscious will run interference with the needed clarity to achieve your goals (i.e. the less illusions we have the better!)
Thank you SO much for sharing your history with us. I was an IV Heroin user (30 + yrs.) & Methadone (20 yrs.) & my experience tells me [& everything I've seen on the street & read here @ MH] continually reinforces my strong conviction that we will bottom out again & again until we: land in jail, die or change the way we approach the problem. You're probably familiar with the old analogy of walking down the street where there's a hole. You fall into it. You walk down the same street, the same way expecting a different result & fall in. Eventually, [much worse for wear] you walk down a different street where there is no hole. (To continue to walk down the same street & expect a different result is 'magical thinking' [i.e. madness.] & addiction is madness.) So, while I appreciate the use of 'intention & attraction', why take chances? Why not armor yourself w/ as many weapons as possible this time? Break those shackles!
I also hear you on not wanting to let your friends/family down again. The thing is, if we keep our relapses/addictions a secret we have a much harder time staying clean as we're the only ones we have to answer to. Many people express the same fear/pride about 'coming' out but in the majority of cases when they do the thing that bothers those near & dear to them is not the actual addiction but that the person didn't trust them enough to come to them earlier. Why not come out to the most understanding, nonjudgmental person around you & work from there? It will be such a relief & it will give you some much needed support. As you said, you realize that you can't do this alone. I know that you're leaning on MH & that's great but it's important that you have people around you in your actual environment who know & who can help.
With you,
Anie
Thank you SO much for sharing your history with us. I was an IV Heroin user (30 + yrs.) & Methadone (20 yrs.) & my experience tells me [& everything I've seen on the street & read here @ MH] continually reinforces my strong conviction that we will bottom out again & again until we: land in jail, die or change the way we approach the problem. You're probably familiar with the old analogy of walking down the street where there's a hole. You fall into it. You walk down the same street, the same way expecting a different result & fall in. Eventually, [much worse for wear] you walk down a different street where there is no hole. (To continue to walk down the same street & expect a different result is 'magical thinking' [i.e. madness.] & addiction is madness.) So, while I appreciate the use of 'intention & attraction', why take chances? Why not armor yourself w/ as many weapons as possible this time? Break those shackles!
I also hear you on not wanting to let your friends/family down again. The thing is, if we keep our relapses/addictions a secret we have a much harder time staying clean as we're the only ones we have to answer to. Many people express the same fear/pride about 'coming' out but in the majority of cases when they do the thing that bothers those near & dear to them is not the actual addiction but that the person didn't trust them enough to come to them earlier. Why not come out to the most understanding, nonjudgmental person around you & work from there? It will be such a relief & it will give you some much needed support. As you said, you realize that you can't do this alone. I know that you're leaning on MH & that's great but it's important that you have people around you in your actual environment who know & who can help.
With you,
Anie
I felt a huge improvement after about 30 days give or take a few days. With that being said I still have ups and downs now at 71 days. Are they near as bad as in the early stages..... NO... but they still come. Life just has ups and downs and we have to learn new ways to handle that. I too had drug dreams but mostly my drug dreams were of me overdosing and I would wake up very panicked and scared. I never overdosed while using but had some very close calls where I felt like I took way to much and it would really scare me. I would tell myself I was gonna stop and then of course the next day the cycle started all over again. We all know how that goes. So I think maybe my dreams steamed from that when I quit.
I agree with Evolver, I try really hard not to think oh I've got this thing beat when cause that is when it will sneak up on you.
Your doing great, stick with it and keep your guard up.
I agree with Evolver, I try really hard not to think oh I've got this thing beat when cause that is when it will sneak up on you.
Your doing great, stick with it and keep your guard up.
This is a two year relapse withdrawal so I understand how the addiction can win. Just trying to stay positive. I believe in the laws of attraction, whereas if you say it it is possible. (Read a book on that) so even though I know all to well about relapse I like to not think for a second ill do it again.
A little of my history is I was on methadone, heroin, and oxy 80s in very very high daily doses about 5-6 years ago. I put myself in rehab and checked out two days later. Ended up having to quit a PROMINENT position with a reputable company an go CT off everything.... Ended up losing EVERYTHING through the wd process and it took months upon months to get rid of acute symptoms. I was for sure I'd gotten asthma through the use and it'd never go away. I should of gone to a dr at the worst of it b/c I felt like dying but I couldn't reach my phone and when I could move again I didn't want the ambulance bill so I stuck it out. My mom passed two years ago and I relapsed.... My dumb *** addiction told me if I didn't touch methadone or heroin or snort anything, only ingest then it wouldn't be like last time.... So here I am two years later and though its NOT like last time my doses per day were so hi that its still heck on earth! This time I'm SCREAMING at the addiction that I have WAY too much to lose and if the laws of attraction and my strength works this will be it for me. I especially know this time that I have to keep talking to people like me for support whether its been 8 days or 1,000. This past relapse the person closest to me never even knew where I was internally.... And still doesn't due to shame because everyone was so proud of when I overcame the last time I didn't want to let them down.
A little of my history is I was on methadone, heroin, and oxy 80s in very very high daily doses about 5-6 years ago. I put myself in rehab and checked out two days later. Ended up having to quit a PROMINENT position with a reputable company an go CT off everything.... Ended up losing EVERYTHING through the wd process and it took months upon months to get rid of acute symptoms. I was for sure I'd gotten asthma through the use and it'd never go away. I should of gone to a dr at the worst of it b/c I felt like dying but I couldn't reach my phone and when I could move again I didn't want the ambulance bill so I stuck it out. My mom passed two years ago and I relapsed.... My dumb *** addiction told me if I didn't touch methadone or heroin or snort anything, only ingest then it wouldn't be like last time.... So here I am two years later and though its NOT like last time my doses per day were so hi that its still heck on earth! This time I'm SCREAMING at the addiction that I have WAY too much to lose and if the laws of attraction and my strength works this will be it for me. I especially know this time that I have to keep talking to people like me for support whether its been 8 days or 1,000. This past relapse the person closest to me never even knew where I was internally.... And still doesn't due to shame because everyone was so proud of when I overcame the last time I didn't want to let them down.
Obviously I'm over them this time and am ignoring the talks of my addictions but I guess I didn't realize how evil my own demons could be to me...???
You said it yourself in the second part of the sentence...we don't know how fiercely our subconscious tapes play or how deeply ingrained they are. So, I'd ask you about the validity/Truth of the 1st part of your sentence (i.e. that it's Obvious that you're over them...THIS TIME..) I'd take the dreams (& don't worry they're part of the w/d's) as a timely warning that you're not 'safe' or over anything. I say this with the utmost respect & from my own experience & the experience of others. We are addicts. The problem is not physical. It's emotional/mental. You've been doing wonderfully so far but when you get through most of the physical stuff do you have any idea about how to protect your hard-won gains? (Because you'll find that the real challenge lies down the line & I want you to be prepared.)
You said it yourself in the second part of the sentence...we don't know how fiercely our subconscious tapes play or how deeply ingrained they are. So, I'd ask you about the validity/Truth of the 1st part of your sentence (i.e. that it's Obvious that you're over them...THIS TIME..) I'd take the dreams (& don't worry they're part of the w/d's) as a timely warning that you're not 'safe' or over anything. I say this with the utmost respect & from my own experience & the experience of others. We are addicts. The problem is not physical. It's emotional/mental. You've been doing wonderfully so far but when you get through most of the physical stuff do you have any idea about how to protect your hard-won gains? (Because you'll find that the real challenge lies down the line & I want you to be prepared.)
Only get the dreams during withdrawal. Like instead of just eating the pills I'm doing crap like using intravenously and though I don't frown upon anyone for their ways its way too real and I don't understand how my body would even know what that feels like or why I wouldn't have dreams of experience rather than taking things to the limit??? Is this my addictions way of saying 'hey try it like that now'... Obviously I'm over them this time and am ignoring the talks of my addictions but I guess I didn't realize how evil my own demons could be to me...??? Not sure if that makes sense or not. May be ramblings not sure due to lack of sleep and stimulation.... Or too much stimulation?? Idk anymore. Not right now.
Hi (me again), Yeah, Okay..for most folks there's usually a line where the real acute symptoms like nausea, RLS & body aches fade away. I'd say (depending on length of use, DOC, previous habits, dosage & age) that they end anywhere between 6 - 20 days [I was the 20 days!] Remember, that's just for acute symptoms. The sleep, sweating, sneezing, gut issues & low energy may go on longer.
These dreams can absolutely be a symptom during the acute phase. Did you have them before? When you say 'in way worse ways of inception..' what do you mean?
These dreams can absolutely be a symptom during the acute phase. Did you have them before? When you say 'in way worse ways of inception..' what do you mean?
A lot of ppl say after 14 days the aches and pains are almost always gone. Would you agree with that EvolverU or is that another case by case situation?
Also, my 'drug dreams' are situations where I'm doing the drugs in way worse ways of inception than ever in real life. Is that normal too?
Also, my 'drug dreams' are situations where I'm doing the drugs in way worse ways of inception than ever in real life. Is that normal too?
Hi there & good morning! I'm sorry you didn't get much sleep especially in light of all you've got planned/on your plate. Roller Coasters by definition = ups & downs, no? So many folks ask the same question you're asking 'What day will I feel better?' or 'When will I be happy?' The real answer is that opiate detox doesn't work that way. It's not a vector -- a straight upwards climb -- rather it's a series of peaks & valleys that slowly ramps. You just experienced one of them when you came back in your second post & said you were all right. For your own peace of mind, try not to measure your progress against a number somebody else gives you or an expectation of 'being happy everyday' [Were you ever? [if so what was your secret? {I want in!...}] You're doing great -- Hang tough -- Try to have patience & faith in the process & yourself. You're doing it!!
The mornings are the worst for me as well. Today is day 10. I didnt get but a couple hours of sleep BUT I didnt have a headache and I didnt feel as bad as the last 9 mornings. Youre right there. Were all on this ride together. Im cheering for you!
Thanks guys. Its just so frustrating to think I'm in the clear and go to sleep only to wake up 2 hours later feeling ****** again! I'm trying my hardest to push through it but the days I feel normal every day can't get here soon enough! I need the encouragement right now so thank you again.
Oh man day 8 was rough for me too! I think I posted in my status about it! To be honest day 10 was kind of a turning point and now that I'm on day 16 I feel sooooo goooooood! You don't have much longer and just keep "faking it til you make it!" I've just started to sleep good again (I think that started on day 12)! OMG I am SOOOO proud that you were able to turn down that pain pill! Unbelievable! To be feeling poorly and to be able to do that really says a lot. I'm so proud!!
Its definitely a rollercoaster ride and although timing is different for everyone the "bad" doesn't last forever and you will be feeling better before you know it. FORCE yourself to stick to your plans and keep busy ❕❗ look how far you have come and how great you are doing! Hang in and hang on. You've got this my friend ❕❗
I'm on day 17 and it's much better than day 8. I can nix my headaches with motrin. I am sleeping 6-7 hrs a night. On Day 8, i wasn't sleeping much at all and the headaches were still pretty bad.
I thought i was totally clear on day 5 because i started feeling good. It comes and goes, but the acute w/d was gone by around that time. there is lingering stuff.
Sleep trouble is still hit and miss, but not nearly as bad as day 8. I stopped feeling better day to day, but every few days, the skys open up.
Try to stay active, distract your brain.
I thought i was totally clear on day 5 because i started feeling good. It comes and goes, but the acute w/d was gone by around that time. there is lingering stuff.
Sleep trouble is still hit and miss, but not nearly as bad as day 8. I stopped feeling better day to day, but every few days, the skys open up.
Try to stay active, distract your brain.
Just got better...: I told my roomie just now that I been up since 4am b/c I'm hurting (can't say what's going on with me so said I have an infection) and what do I get offered????? A PAIN PILL!!!!! I'm happy to report I said NO and said I have Naproxen. This is going to be a LONG DAY!!
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