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I just wanted to post here and say how wonderfull this site has helped me. I have been coming here for months. I have never posted anything here but I did follow a'lot of other peoples advice and now I am 8 days clean and not having any more withdrawls. ( The first 3 days were hell). I was taking Hydro's, Oxy's pretty much anything I can get my hands on. I was up to 90 mgs a day for almost 2 years. I tried tapering but knowing I had the pills I just had to take them, So I quit cold turkey with the thompson reciepe. IT WORKS. All I want to say is thanks for your posts as other people do read them and it does HELP.
It is admirable wut u are going to do! You have already achieved a great milestone admitting it is a problem and desiring to get off the devil! Let us know how we can help and how u r plz.. keep posting!
Suzie
Suzie
Read all the post even if the lead question does not pertain to you. There are great stories and ways different people have either quit all together or cut back. Good luck!
teeitup
teeitup
Chi,
Again, I MUST agree with Suzie. You will only be climbing a greasy ladder if you detox to the point where you just KNOW you can't handle the withdrawls & reach for a pill or two. One step up is NEVER worth two steps down. If you get 24 hours into your detox & take just ONE PILL, all that pain & misery you just suffered for that day shoot right down the toilet. You MUST go into this ready to tackle the withdrawls & all WITHOUT any of the pills that you're battling. Trust me on this one. I detoxed with a whole bottle of Vicodin ES in the house & after the first day I convinced myself that taking two pills when I get up certainly won't hurt my recovery...especially since I was taking 5 or 6 at a time, 4 or 5 times a day. Guess what? I felt a WHOLE LOT better for the greater part of the morning...until those pills wore off. Then I ACTUALLY felt WORSE than I did the prior day. That's when I KNEW that this had to be done without ANY pills other than immodium to keep me off of the toilet. I successfully completed my withdrawls with the remainder of my meds in the house but I was SO ready to be clean that I honestly knew in my heart that I would not, under any circumstance take another for withdrawls. You REALLY CAN DO THIS CHI...without your security balnket in the house.
Again Chi...you are in my prayers & I have the GREATEST faith in you for your upcoming battles. Please keep us posted & be VERY careful with what you do with those 6 pills. Mine is only advice & concern. You seem to have already siked yourself out regarding the symptoms of detox, making them worse than they'll actually be. I'd REALLY hate to see you prolong this uncomfortable experience by taking just one pill to help ease the pain & slipping back to the beginning of a vicious circle.
TAKE CARE CHI...BE STRONG!!!
FINISHED!!
Again, I MUST agree with Suzie. You will only be climbing a greasy ladder if you detox to the point where you just KNOW you can't handle the withdrawls & reach for a pill or two. One step up is NEVER worth two steps down. If you get 24 hours into your detox & take just ONE PILL, all that pain & misery you just suffered for that day shoot right down the toilet. You MUST go into this ready to tackle the withdrawls & all WITHOUT any of the pills that you're battling. Trust me on this one. I detoxed with a whole bottle of Vicodin ES in the house & after the first day I convinced myself that taking two pills when I get up certainly won't hurt my recovery...especially since I was taking 5 or 6 at a time, 4 or 5 times a day. Guess what? I felt a WHOLE LOT better for the greater part of the morning...until those pills wore off. Then I ACTUALLY felt WORSE than I did the prior day. That's when I KNEW that this had to be done without ANY pills other than immodium to keep me off of the toilet. I successfully completed my withdrawls with the remainder of my meds in the house but I was SO ready to be clean that I honestly knew in my heart that I would not, under any circumstance take another for withdrawls. You REALLY CAN DO THIS CHI...without your security balnket in the house.
Again Chi...you are in my prayers & I have the GREATEST faith in you for your upcoming battles. Please keep us posted & be VERY careful with what you do with those 6 pills. Mine is only advice & concern. You seem to have already siked yourself out regarding the symptoms of detox, making them worse than they'll actually be. I'd REALLY hate to see you prolong this uncomfortable experience by taking just one pill to help ease the pain & slipping back to the beginning of a vicious circle.
TAKE CARE CHI...BE STRONG!!!
FINISHED!!
hey everyone , i all is well.
the withdrawls from ultram and ultracet are no fun.
one thing is for sure tho , we make out to be worse then it really is before we do take the plunge at kicking.
the worst is the restless leg at night in the 1st week.
waking up in the middle of the night or not even getting much sleep at all is always the hard part. when we do go through this it is a real good idea to get right into the hot bath tub,
sometimes we may have to do this a couple time at night .
so don't get to upset about it. the bath will feel wonderful
while you in it.
the depression and painc during thr day seems worse then it is ,
it will pass after a week so try not to pay to much attention to it, and keep busy.
for those who are willing a few L-tyrosine and b-6 really do help
with the with drawls in week one.
in any event just do what ever you have to to get through weeek one then try to start moving around , walk, ride a bike.
whatever. in time your natraul endorphins will slowly start to
kick in a little each day,
dot forget to eat and take imodium for the runs,
the runs in week one will deplete your body of all your nutrients
and electolites and this will make the with drawls worse then they have to be. gator aid help to restore the lost electolites.
well peace to everyone//////////hippy
the withdrawls from ultram and ultracet are no fun.
one thing is for sure tho , we make out to be worse then it really is before we do take the plunge at kicking.
the worst is the restless leg at night in the 1st week.
waking up in the middle of the night or not even getting much sleep at all is always the hard part. when we do go through this it is a real good idea to get right into the hot bath tub,
sometimes we may have to do this a couple time at night .
so don't get to upset about it. the bath will feel wonderful
while you in it.
the depression and painc during thr day seems worse then it is ,
it will pass after a week so try not to pay to much attention to it, and keep busy.
for those who are willing a few L-tyrosine and b-6 really do help
with the with drawls in week one.
in any event just do what ever you have to to get through weeek one then try to start moving around , walk, ride a bike.
whatever. in time your natraul endorphins will slowly start to
kick in a little each day,
dot forget to eat and take imodium for the runs,
the runs in week one will deplete your body of all your nutrients
and electolites and this will make the with drawls worse then they have to be. gator aid help to restore the lost electolites.
well peace to everyone//////////hippy
After detoxing basically every way possible ie, cold turkey, self weaning (ha) hospital detox and then finally the rapid detox I referred to in above post, I'll tell you what happened to me and what worked best. I literally tried to detox myself at home at least 25 times (not counting the forced "mini detoxes" I went through while trying to get more.) The first time seemed bad at the time but I had nothing to gage it by. I can tell you for me each subsequent withdrawel period became more painful for a longer period of time. Suzieneedshelp and Finished! are right about not taking any narcotic while you detox. There is a catch to that though. They give you small doses of opiates in the hospital and take you down a little more humanly than cold turkey...but... there is no way to get more. If I ever had a refill coming to me and I tried to detox at home by trying to take a few remaining pills I'd saved "in case it gets too bad" I would take that dose and like they said in the other posts it would trigger me and I would absolutely have to get the refill. If, however you have no way to get any opiate for at least 2 weeks preferably more, You may be able to get some badly needed relief by taking a dose "when it gets terribly hard to take" actually if you have enough, one pill every 6 hours on day one, one every 8 hours the next day and one every 12 the third taking one final pill 24 hours as your last pill is a prescribed means of detox in some hospitals. (I'm also a registered nurse so I've been through detox from both sides, this method really is a protocol that has been used for detox... among many and with other meds as well, such as clonidine and specific meds for symtom relief as they occur.) Realize though, that you will go through another withdrawel after that last pill but it makes the detox more tolerable and gives you a slightly better chance at being succesful. You absolutely must give the pills to your husband and you can not have any access to more pills not even a remote chance. I am only telling you this from alot of unfortunate detox experiences of my own. You seem really strong and determined to do this. Everybody has their own experience and does what works for them. This is just one suggestion among many of the great ones that have been posted here. Good luck this weekend and how did you do today? Keep posting when you can, I've seen how much your supported here. I'll keep you in my prayers. Take care
Fear of WD,
How many of us have continued useing, tapering, picking up 36 hours after determinred this was it? I won't use no matter what. Then the cycle starts all over, I will quit next month or next week.
I have 33 days clean from any opiate, the thomas recipe helped me, however, my Dr, who I got honest with sent me to his adickionoligist, She reccomenned methadone, been there done that in 88. I am an addict who had 7 years clean in NA became successful and thought I could drink socially. Within a year I was an alkie and also got addicted to gambling in a huge way, with huge losses.
My parents died in 2000, leaving a selection of pain pills, I took my first lora tab two days before my Dad's funeral. Hadn't used pills in years because I drank.
Months later, I found out I had a disease that required a chemo like treatment for 6 months, I was cured, but was left with an oxy and perc habit. This went on for 14 months, 400 mgs of oxy, 120mgs of percs, a day just to feel normal. I was seeing multible DR.s and thought of quitting everyday. That day finally came in the first week of DEC. 2002 I thought WD would be over by Christmas. I still have them. But,I have a freedom I haven't had for 2 yrs.
My addictionoligist, which there are many, it is a growing indusry, Choose carefully if you go this route. Mine was chosen for me. I am now tapering off of klonopin, been on it a month,stopped cold turkey and now understand the pain and insanity of WD from benzos. She also put me on Efflexor, anti depressent. Bottom line is I am going to be drug free by the end of the month. I am tired all the time, from the prescribed pills. There is not a drug on the planet I haven't tried and liked at first, when it stopped working I substituted another drug.
I am a recovering addict who goes to an NA meeting everyday, because it works for me. I know I have blown brain circuts and my brain is never in a normal state. My solution and answer was to humble my self, go to meetings, get my sponser and work the 12 steps. I am on step 1. I have reaquainted myself with some real friends that I chose to leave when I started to drink and stopped meetings and fellowship of people fighting this disease successfully.
I am also a business owner, a husband and a father of two daughters. Met my wife in recovery 14 yrs ago. I would be consider well to do with all the trapping and toys. Yet in debt, like everyone else. On the outside I am normal, when I am using, I have gratitude for none of the gifts I have been blessed with. My only thoghts revolve around how many and how long my pills will last. I expect with the quantity and length of time I was using, my WD will last 5 or 6 months just like methadone WD in 88. The legitamate pain I have I will learn to live with, those that have to use pain meds as prescribed to live a normal life my prayers are with you.
Jeez, I don't post for a few days and I write a book. To the people who are new, there are some very caring, loving people who got me through my first week of WD, to those that helped me thank you, I never would have made it through the first week without you, you know who you are. There is life after drugs, it just most of us believe the lie of the pills for way to long.
Strength and Honor
Greg
How many of us have continued useing, tapering, picking up 36 hours after determinred this was it? I won't use no matter what. Then the cycle starts all over, I will quit next month or next week.
I have 33 days clean from any opiate, the thomas recipe helped me, however, my Dr, who I got honest with sent me to his adickionoligist, She reccomenned methadone, been there done that in 88. I am an addict who had 7 years clean in NA became successful and thought I could drink socially. Within a year I was an alkie and also got addicted to gambling in a huge way, with huge losses.
My parents died in 2000, leaving a selection of pain pills, I took my first lora tab two days before my Dad's funeral. Hadn't used pills in years because I drank.
Months later, I found out I had a disease that required a chemo like treatment for 6 months, I was cured, but was left with an oxy and perc habit. This went on for 14 months, 400 mgs of oxy, 120mgs of percs, a day just to feel normal. I was seeing multible DR.s and thought of quitting everyday. That day finally came in the first week of DEC. 2002 I thought WD would be over by Christmas. I still have them. But,I have a freedom I haven't had for 2 yrs.
My addictionoligist, which there are many, it is a growing indusry, Choose carefully if you go this route. Mine was chosen for me. I am now tapering off of klonopin, been on it a month,stopped cold turkey and now understand the pain and insanity of WD from benzos. She also put me on Efflexor, anti depressent. Bottom line is I am going to be drug free by the end of the month. I am tired all the time, from the prescribed pills. There is not a drug on the planet I haven't tried and liked at first, when it stopped working I substituted another drug.
I am a recovering addict who goes to an NA meeting everyday, because it works for me. I know I have blown brain circuts and my brain is never in a normal state. My solution and answer was to humble my self, go to meetings, get my sponser and work the 12 steps. I am on step 1. I have reaquainted myself with some real friends that I chose to leave when I started to drink and stopped meetings and fellowship of people fighting this disease successfully.
I am also a business owner, a husband and a father of two daughters. Met my wife in recovery 14 yrs ago. I would be consider well to do with all the trapping and toys. Yet in debt, like everyone else. On the outside I am normal, when I am using, I have gratitude for none of the gifts I have been blessed with. My only thoghts revolve around how many and how long my pills will last. I expect with the quantity and length of time I was using, my WD will last 5 or 6 months just like methadone WD in 88. The legitamate pain I have I will learn to live with, those that have to use pain meds as prescribed to live a normal life my prayers are with you.
Jeez, I don't post for a few days and I write a book. To the people who are new, there are some very caring, loving people who got me through my first week of WD, to those that helped me thank you, I never would have made it through the first week without you, you know who you are. There is life after drugs, it just most of us believe the lie of the pills for way to long.
Strength and Honor
Greg
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