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[GreatLife]

I just wanted to post here and say how wonderfull this site has helped me. I have been coming here for months. I have never posted anything here but I did follow a'lot of other peoples advice and now I am 8 days clean and not having any more withdrawls. ( The first 3 days were hell).  I was taking Hydro's, Oxy's pretty much anything I can get my hands on. I was up to 90 mgs a day for almost 2 years. I tried tapering but knowing I had the pills I just had to take them, So I quit cold turkey with the thompson reciepe. IT WORKS. All I want to say is thanks for your posts as other people do read them and it does HELP.

[Jennibean]

People who start off taking ultram usually notice some euphoria because it does cause some however it is not nearly as strong as vicodin or percocet so somebody who is use to the euphoria of vicodin would probably not consider ultram to be very euphoric. Does that make sense? Also be careful with the ultram you deffinately do not want to take more of that it can be more dangerous actually it is more dangerous to withdrawal from than vicodin. It lowers the seizure threshold. I really think that some changes are going to made soon concerning ultram. As of now it is not considered a scheduled narcotic but as the FDA and Dr's learn that it is causing addiction and that detox from it should really be done under medical supervision the labeling will be changed I am certain. In our detox center that I used to work for many people had seizures coming off of ultram and although ultram is not as pleasant to take as the other pain meds it seems more unpleasant to come off of.

Jen

[DubeMechanic]

Ive been reading some threads and some folks have asked what the equivilant (sp?) doses of various drugs are. MrMicheal gave me a web site that listed that a few months back:

http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.htm

Hope this helps. I dont know if Ive even read it right, perhaps someone could check it out and explain it.

God Bless

DM

[DubeMechanic]

Ive cut OC 40s in half and quarters (also 100 mg morphine pills too) and while I dont know for sure, as long as its a clean break (not crushing or chewing) it seems to work. I believe (again, not sure) that the mix inside the pill is a combo of fast and slow disolving compounds. So 1/2 an OC 40 is about the same as an OC 20.

Again, Im not a doc, just a user but Ive done it many many times and it seemed to work fine. I didnt get a buzz so it couldnt of disolved all at once. And with the morphine pills Ive sliced up it was the same. Just dont chew or crush them, make a nice clean break.

Id be careful the first time, every one is different.

Hope this helps

God Bless

DM

[Jennibean]

I think I want to break the time release. I am down to taking 8 percocet at a time from taking 12 so I want to crush 2 20's to make that equal 8 percocet or 40mg of percocet. I just want to make sure it will be exactly the same. If 40mg oc is actually more than 40mg of percocet when crushed then I won't do it but if it is the same I am going to do it. If you crush oxycontin and you get it all at once is it exactly like taking regular percocet? Because regular percocet is immediate release and so would the oxycontin be if you crushed it right? I am not looking to take more just to coninue taking what I am currently taking until I see my Dr. Or I could even go down to crushing just one 20 to taper from there. I will not take it whole I have come off of it before and it is hell. I also have no interest in snorting it etc. Does anyone know if it is the same as taking regular percocet if you take teh same exact mg of crushed oc? God I sound like a terrible addict. I am actually but again I have been tapering and am trying to coninue.
Jen

[harlem]

it's funny, when i first started on the ultram i felt woozy and strange. i got a bit nervous b/c i had never used anything for pain b/f (unless you count the stuff they gave me when i was in labor!!) so i used them w/ caution. b/f i knew it though, i realized "hey, this stuff makes me feel so good"... i can't explain it in very good terms, i just know it made me feel good. i was trying to lose the last 10-15 pounds (baby weight) from the pregnancy and saw the weight fall right off after a few months. but then i got down to a skeletal 115 (i am 5' 8"). so of course, that was one thing i was thinking... "hmmm, i lost weight and if i stop, i will gain"... needless to say, i NEEDED to gain b/c i looked freaky. and i had never had a problem w/ my weight as far as looking in the mirror and thinking bad about what i saw. i've always been pretty thin. ok this is so far off from what you asked though.
i guess it just made me feel fuzzy, happy, muscles felt relaxed and it gave me so much energy. that was the best part actually- the energy boost. so i was full of this great energy and also feeling so relaxed and fuzzy. i hate even writing about this though- it is really just such a terrible thing. i never set out to get addicted... it just came to me one day when i realized if i stopped i'd be sick. then i'd try to take less (i was up to 7-10 pills a day) and get shaky and feel sick. i detoxed hard off of that. then i found ultracet to be just as good. it is a combo of tramadol and tylenol. i had it for my back. i totally knew it was probably the same type of thing and took it anyway. i should have declined and asked for something w/ NO tramadol.
anyway, it is ironic reading about all of the vicodin stories b/c i had taken one or 2 of those to sub for the ultracet i didn't have and that did NOTHING for me. i think the tramadol is what i am severely addicted to. it is very surprising to hear they give that to detox from other drugs. there are so many lawsuits out there pending over this one drug. it is addictive and the manufacturers claim it is not. to hell w/ their bs opinion. let's see one of their family members get addicted and see if the opinion remains the same....

[harlem]

Thank you so much for responding to me. I went on a forum once when my dad was dying from cancer and it was like a cocoon of support so i should not be surprised to see the same thing here. I feel good today. I actually have been surprised by the way my body is handling this, this time anyway. i have been looking at it in terms of minutes going by- NOT hours or days and definitely NOT in terms of the far off future... too overwhelming! I haven't slept much (is it from the pills or my son getting up 10 times to go pee.... hmmm?! ha ha!) but it is doable. the bath thing really does help. it takes me away from the chills. i do have a question or maybe more of an observation... i keep feeling very light headed, like when your blood sugar gets low or you've drank too much coffee w/ nothing in your stomach.... so i have been shoving food down my throat thinking this will fix the feeling. and it doesn't. it just makes me feel like **** for overeating! i think something was mentioned about b-6? is this a vitamin? what does it help w/? again, thanks to all of you. it shows a lot when people who know nothing about each other will get on a website simply for the sole purpose of helping others. i think this is the saving grace for everyone. i know it was for me w/ my dad dying and is now. thank you.....