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Life's decisions and what they mean to those around us.
I can't speak for others, but for me, years of methadone addiction and the disease helped me become a very selfish individual.
With every day getting better, it becomes clearer to me the vast amends I must make to family and friends alike. Materialistic desires have but all vanished from my thoughts and are now being replaced with a desire to help repair emotional damage that I have caused without knowing until now.
The main benifactor of my relentless self pity and emotional wreckage was unfortunately my daughter as I was the only parent that was around to spend time with her. Mom was gone emotionally and physically most of the time so we went through life together.
Her undying love for her Dad and was shaken when after a car wreck, I was airlifted to the hospital and given Nubain. Since I was an opiate addict, detox occurred almost immediately and I began to yell and move uncontrollably. From the waiting room, my daughter heard me and ran back to see what the problem was only to encounter an ER doctor reviewing my chart and finally reading that I was on methadone. When she asked what was wrong, he yelled, "Your Dad is nothing more than an Addict.". Even in as rough a shape as I was, I still remember her face.
Forgiveness is easily attained simply by asking but the emotional pain and suffering of those around us could take years to repair if at all.
Most of us here have found a way to get back our lives. But what about those victims we left in our paths? Do they not deserve the same dedication and time we spend on ourselves?
God Bless,
Mike
With every day getting better, it becomes clearer to me the vast amends I must make to family and friends alike. Materialistic desires have but all vanished from my thoughts and are now being replaced with a desire to help repair emotional damage that I have caused without knowing until now.
The main benifactor of my relentless self pity and emotional wreckage was unfortunately my daughter as I was the only parent that was around to spend time with her. Mom was gone emotionally and physically most of the time so we went through life together.
Her undying love for her Dad and was shaken when after a car wreck, I was airlifted to the hospital and given Nubain. Since I was an opiate addict, detox occurred almost immediately and I began to yell and move uncontrollably. From the waiting room, my daughter heard me and ran back to see what the problem was only to encounter an ER doctor reviewing my chart and finally reading that I was on methadone. When she asked what was wrong, he yelled, "Your Dad is nothing more than an Addict.". Even in as rough a shape as I was, I still remember her face.
Forgiveness is easily attained simply by asking but the emotional pain and suffering of those around us could take years to repair if at all.
Most of us here have found a way to get back our lives. But what about those victims we left in our paths? Do they not deserve the same dedication and time we spend on ourselves?
God Bless,
Mike
regarding the detox recipe for opiates...
I am the spouse of another doctor created addict...probably his 2nd besst enabler, as he has severe medical conditions which his doctor happily over prescribes for
Can you validate for me that at a certain point in opiate overuse that vomiting diarehea stomache cramping and pain will occur almost as soon as the level of narcotics dips below the accustomed dosage?
No, wait. If I get a reality check, I might have to deal with it. Reality, I mean.
I want to offer some herbal advice for the detox recipe...Lots (no less than a quart,daily, hot or cold)of chamomile tea with a capsule of valerian, when the valium runs out, or before, if you prefer not to switch seats on the titanic...Milk thistle, 1 to 3 capsules a day to support liver functions and move toxins out, burdock root to promote sweating, chickweed and 3 to 6 caps of chorella for promoting good health and sense of well being, amazing source of b vitamens and amino acids plus iron magnesium, vitamen a, k and c....I would happily recommend it in addition to your detox recipe, and for a daily maintainence schedule after initial withdrawl.
The hardest part sometimes, I think, is not picking it back up again. The drugs, I mean. I can't stand that I have lost my husband to a time released reality glitch. And that he seems to prefer it that way. And what on earth can match the feel good of morphine? It hurts me to the core.
Best of luck to the person looking for the withdrawl recipe. you will be in my thoughts and prayers.
I am the spouse of another doctor created addict...probably his 2nd besst enabler, as he has severe medical conditions which his doctor happily over prescribes for
Can you validate for me that at a certain point in opiate overuse that vomiting diarehea stomache cramping and pain will occur almost as soon as the level of narcotics dips below the accustomed dosage?
No, wait. If I get a reality check, I might have to deal with it. Reality, I mean.
I want to offer some herbal advice for the detox recipe...Lots (no less than a quart,daily, hot or cold)of chamomile tea with a capsule of valerian, when the valium runs out, or before, if you prefer not to switch seats on the titanic...Milk thistle, 1 to 3 capsules a day to support liver functions and move toxins out, burdock root to promote sweating, chickweed and 3 to 6 caps of chorella for promoting good health and sense of well being, amazing source of b vitamens and amino acids plus iron magnesium, vitamen a, k and c....I would happily recommend it in addition to your detox recipe, and for a daily maintainence schedule after initial withdrawl.
The hardest part sometimes, I think, is not picking it back up again. The drugs, I mean. I can't stand that I have lost my husband to a time released reality glitch. And that he seems to prefer it that way. And what on earth can match the feel good of morphine? It hurts me to the core.
Best of luck to the person looking for the withdrawl recipe. you will be in my thoughts and prayers.
You have been asking for some advice for your upcoming detox. If possible I would see if you could get some clonidine from a doctor (or you can actually find it online). IMHO, I think it more than anything else will ease the symptoms. You need to be very careful with it, however. Since it lowers your blood pressure its best to eat a lot of salty foods and drink gatorade to keep your blood pressure up. My blood pressure dropped dangerously low during detox. So please be careful if you go this route. I would like to know if others agree with the help clonidine can provide.
Best of luck, you'll be in my prayers. Please keep us posted of your progress. You can beat this!!
Best of luck, you'll be in my prayers. Please keep us posted of your progress. You can beat this!!
here it is. don't forget to read the warnings and fine print before usuing it. Good Luck! Thomas
Thomas Detox Recipe
PLEASE NOTE: I am not a doctor, simply a long-time Rx opiate junkie who has had many opportunities to develop a way to detox. This is a recipe for at-home self-detox from opiates based on my experience as well as that of many other addicts. It is not intended as professional medical advice. It is always wise to make sure none of the recipe ingredients or procedures conflict with medications you may be taking. Likewise, if you have any medical condition, disease, allergy or any other health issue, consult your doctor before using the recipe. Thanks, Thomas
This recipe is designed for cold turkey opiate detox. It assumes that you can get about 5 to 7 days away from your job or household responsibilities during which you can sleep, veg and act as miserable as you feel. Opiate WD mimics the symptoms of the common flu, so, if you need a smokescreen, hide behind a bad case of the flu.
If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
With breakfast, take the mineral supplement.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.
PLEASE NOTE: If you have any medical complications, first check with your doctor before detoxing to verify that this regimen is safe for you.
Thomas Detox Recipe
PLEASE NOTE: I am not a doctor, simply a long-time Rx opiate junkie who has had many opportunities to develop a way to detox. This is a recipe for at-home self-detox from opiates based on my experience as well as that of many other addicts. It is not intended as professional medical advice. It is always wise to make sure none of the recipe ingredients or procedures conflict with medications you may be taking. Likewise, if you have any medical condition, disease, allergy or any other health issue, consult your doctor before using the recipe. Thanks, Thomas
This recipe is designed for cold turkey opiate detox. It assumes that you can get about 5 to 7 days away from your job or household responsibilities during which you can sleep, veg and act as miserable as you feel. Opiate WD mimics the symptoms of the common flu, so, if you need a smokescreen, hide behind a bad case of the flu.
If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper and Magnesium.
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
With breakfast, take the mineral supplement.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.
PLEASE NOTE: If you have any medical complications, first check with your doctor before detoxing to verify that this regimen is safe for you.
What do you do the rest of the month...after you run out? Do you have more than one dr. going at the same time?
I'm a newcomer,I have a problem with opiate addiction.You name it in the form of a pill.Pain killers are my demon.I really want to stop the hell,and get peace back in my life.I HAVE TO DO THIS FOR MY CHILDREN.I heard there is something out there called Thomas Recipe,or The Recipe.Could someone please tell me what this is,so I could try it.I appreciate it.
Desperately Yours,
InHell
Desperately Yours,
InHell
I get refills that often. But..my script runs out in about 2 months. the Dr. has cut me off.
Suz
Suz
This is the Thomas Recipe, all items available pretty cheap at WalmArt (Thanks MethMan),
l-tyrosine 1000 mgms 4 a day week 1 ,2 a day the next weeks.
b-6 100 mgs 2 a day
vitimines A c and E 2 A DAY OF EACH
A STRONG MULTI VITIMINE 1 A DAY
ZINC 1 ADAY
COPPER 1 A DAY
PHOSPHORUS 1 ADAY 500 MGMS
MANGANESE 1OMG 1 A DAY
CALSIUM-MAGNISUM 1 A DAY
IMODIUM FOR THE 1ST WEEK
Gatorade for Electrolites
Three Hot showers a day or HotTub
I also added L-Glutamin, an Amino Acid, also available just about anywhere.
Also (and this is number one for me) is asking Jesus Christ for help and forgivenessm, which by the way, I do not deserve. But then, this is the definition of God's grace - undeserved kindness. I believe He wants me clean, so I am asking for His help.
I will pray tonight for you and LivingDeadGirl...
Rex
l-tyrosine 1000 mgms 4 a day week 1 ,2 a day the next weeks.
b-6 100 mgs 2 a day
vitimines A c and E 2 A DAY OF EACH
A STRONG MULTI VITIMINE 1 A DAY
ZINC 1 ADAY
COPPER 1 A DAY
PHOSPHORUS 1 ADAY 500 MGMS
MANGANESE 1OMG 1 A DAY
CALSIUM-MAGNISUM 1 A DAY
IMODIUM FOR THE 1ST WEEK
Gatorade for Electrolites
Three Hot showers a day or HotTub
I also added L-Glutamin, an Amino Acid, also available just about anywhere.
Also (and this is number one for me) is asking Jesus Christ for help and forgivenessm, which by the way, I do not deserve. But then, this is the definition of God's grace - undeserved kindness. I believe He wants me clean, so I am asking for His help.
I will pray tonight for you and LivingDeadGirl...
Rex
That's how I was with hydros, percs whatever...my script would be gone in a few days.
I use one bottle in about 4 -5 days and it is supposed to last one month.
Suz
Suz
Do you use the nasal spray? Is that the only form Stadol comes in? Most doctors I've spoken with around here would never prescribe it. It has a bad reputation...for good reason I guess. How much of it do you use per day?
I used it once, and it made me feel really weird...spaced out and sick to my stomach. I didn't like it. I guess that is a good thing.
I used it once, and it made me feel really weird...spaced out and sick to my stomach. I didn't like it. I guess that is a good thing.
Can you all post where u are from when u post? It is so cool that we are allove the country..the amzing internet! I am from Tallahassee.
Lizzy..Plz remember that stadol is very addicting and much more poptent than morphine. I have been addicted to it for over 10 years! hope you feel better! I put ice bag on my head and it helps dull the pain tremendously!
thx,
Suzie
Lizzy..Plz remember that stadol is very addicting and much more poptent than morphine. I have been addicted to it for over 10 years! hope you feel better! I put ice bag on my head and it helps dull the pain tremendously!
thx,
Suzie
Congrats on readying yourself for phase 3. You're already doing what it takes to help you heal. The first couple days, just hang strong. It's tough, but worth it. Keep repeating to yourself that "This WILL pass". Because it will.
Day 3, you're more than likely gonna still feel pretty rough. But if you can, TRY to get up and move. Walk outside if there is space where no one will hassle you. It will take your mind off the situation and will help make you feel better. Also, just sitting under a hot shower did wonders for me. They temporarily take the skin crawls and aches away so you can get a small break in the action.
One thing.... I don't think I saw where you were getting any detox meds from your doctor. If that is the case, you may want to rethink that option. Clonidine helps early on as does Ibuprofin and a mild muscle relaxer. Your doctor can figure that all out... that's what I'm using and others have as well.
Word of caution: Clonidine, while it helps early in the process will also make you feel pretty fatigued later on. It's a BP med that also helps with detox somehow. There's a fine line with this one. You need it up front, but I'd suggest tapering off after 7 days. But then, your doctor will know what's best, not me. I can only speak with what I've experienced. And IF you doctor prescribes it, don't stop abruptly. I did that and thought my head was gonna come off. Those things are powerful.
Remember.. It WILL pass. You'll come out the other side better for the journey.
God Bless,
Mike
Day 3, you're more than likely gonna still feel pretty rough. But if you can, TRY to get up and move. Walk outside if there is space where no one will hassle you. It will take your mind off the situation and will help make you feel better. Also, just sitting under a hot shower did wonders for me. They temporarily take the skin crawls and aches away so you can get a small break in the action.
One thing.... I don't think I saw where you were getting any detox meds from your doctor. If that is the case, you may want to rethink that option. Clonidine helps early on as does Ibuprofin and a mild muscle relaxer. Your doctor can figure that all out... that's what I'm using and others have as well.
Word of caution: Clonidine, while it helps early in the process will also make you feel pretty fatigued later on. It's a BP med that also helps with detox somehow. There's a fine line with this one. You need it up front, but I'd suggest tapering off after 7 days. But then, your doctor will know what's best, not me. I can only speak with what I've experienced. And IF you doctor prescribes it, don't stop abruptly. I did that and thought my head was gonna come off. Those things are powerful.
Remember.. It WILL pass. You'll come out the other side better for the journey.
God Bless,
Mike
First of all, what is wrong with this forum today, I have posted a couple of times in the last few minutes and it says to reload or something.
Lizzy, I wrote you a long email and aol kicked me off and I lost my hotmail email to you. Talk about frustrating, I will write you again in a little while..I'm still here with you.
Hugs
Suze
Lizzy, I wrote you a long email and aol kicked me off and I lost my hotmail email to you. Talk about frustrating, I will write you again in a little while..I'm still here with you.
Hugs
Suze
Stuff is tough coming back from detox. I am facing the same sort of issues you are but reversed. It is my wife that is the one that's "assisting" me.
Here are some observations that I have gathered that MAY make sense and help you understand:
1. If your significant other is very defensive, combative and demanding, by you getting OFF meds, it's a sign of loosing CONTROL over you. This is in my case, I can not speak for yours.
2. Misery loves company. When someone is hurt, others WILL talk. "Ohh.. I'm having it hard. My Wife/Husband/Daughter/Brother/Sister/Aunt/Uncle is addicted and I have to bear the brunt. Woe is me. Don't give em the power.
3. New feelings are uncovered once we clear our head. Have they ALWAYS been there like this? Or are we just starting to see it now?
4. Society has labeled our disease as "shameful", therefore we try to hide ourselves from further injury. I've found a full frontal direct approach freaks them out. The occasional hand shake, "How ya doin'" (use southern drawl here) when prying for information really can be derailed by saying, "Well, I am finished detoxing from a major case of <enter drug of choice here> and feeling like ****. How are you doin'"?
I learned a cool tool when I got out of rehab about 2 1/2 weeks ago. When someone confronts you and you do NOT want to engage, then all you say is, "You may be right." and walk off. You're not saying they are right or they are wrong, but there is no where for them to go when you say that. Try it. They just stand there expecting you to argue and you lay that on em. They look at you like you've walked over their graves.
There's only one person that you can take care of really. You. Hang strong. There are those that would try to turn you back if they could. Don't feed them.
Love,
Mike
Here are some observations that I have gathered that MAY make sense and help you understand:
1. If your significant other is very defensive, combative and demanding, by you getting OFF meds, it's a sign of loosing CONTROL over you. This is in my case, I can not speak for yours.
2. Misery loves company. When someone is hurt, others WILL talk. "Ohh.. I'm having it hard. My Wife/Husband/Daughter/Brother/Sister/Aunt/Uncle is addicted and I have to bear the brunt. Woe is me. Don't give em the power.
3. New feelings are uncovered once we clear our head. Have they ALWAYS been there like this? Or are we just starting to see it now?
4. Society has labeled our disease as "shameful", therefore we try to hide ourselves from further injury. I've found a full frontal direct approach freaks them out. The occasional hand shake, "How ya doin'" (use southern drawl here) when prying for information really can be derailed by saying, "Well, I am finished detoxing from a major case of <enter drug of choice here> and feeling like ****. How are you doin'"?
I learned a cool tool when I got out of rehab about 2 1/2 weeks ago. When someone confronts you and you do NOT want to engage, then all you say is, "You may be right." and walk off. You're not saying they are right or they are wrong, but there is no where for them to go when you say that. Try it. They just stand there expecting you to argue and you lay that on em. They look at you like you've walked over their graves.
There's only one person that you can take care of really. You. Hang strong. There are those that would try to turn you back if they could. Don't feed them.
Love,
Mike
Stuff is tough coming back from detox. I am facing the same sort of issues you are but reversed. It is my wife that is the one that's "assisting" me.
Here are some observations that I have gathered that MAY make sense and help you understand:
1. If your significant other is very defensive, combative and demanding, by you getting OFF meds, it's a sign of loosing CONTROL over you. This is in my case, I can not speak for yours.
2. Misery loves company. When someone is hurt, others WILL talk. "Ohh.. I'm having it hard. My Wife/Husband/Daughter/Brother/Sister/Aunt/Uncle is addicted and I have to bear the brunt. Woe is me. Don't give em the power.
3. New feelings are uncovered once we clear our head. Have they ALWAYS been there like this? Or are we just starting to see it now?
4. Society has labeled our disease as "shameful", therefore we try to hide ourselves from further injury. I've found a full frontal direct approach freaks them out. The occasional hand shake, "How ya doin'" (use southern drawl here) when prying for information really can be derailed by saying, "Well, I am finished detoxing from a major case of <enter drug of choice here> and feeling like ****. How are you doin'"?
I learned a cool tool when I got out of rehab about 2 1/2 weeks ago. When someone confronts you and you do NOT want to engage, then all you say is, "You may be right." and walk off. You're not saying they are right or they are wrong, but there is no where for them to go when you say that. Try it. They just stand there expecting you to argue and you lay that on em. They look at you like you've walked over their graves.
There's only one person that you can take care of really. You. Hang strong. There are those that would try to turn you back if they could. Don't feed them.
Love,
Mike
Here are some observations that I have gathered that MAY make sense and help you understand:
1. If your significant other is very defensive, combative and demanding, by you getting OFF meds, it's a sign of loosing CONTROL over you. This is in my case, I can not speak for yours.
2. Misery loves company. When someone is hurt, others WILL talk. "Ohh.. I'm having it hard. My Wife/Husband/Daughter/Brother/Sister/Aunt/Uncle is addicted and I have to bear the brunt. Woe is me. Don't give em the power.
3. New feelings are uncovered once we clear our head. Have they ALWAYS been there like this? Or are we just starting to see it now?
4. Society has labeled our disease as "shameful", therefore we try to hide ourselves from further injury. I've found a full frontal direct approach freaks them out. The occasional hand shake, "How ya doin'" (use southern drawl here) when prying for information really can be derailed by saying, "Well, I am finished detoxing from a major case of <enter drug of choice here> and feeling like ****. How are you doin'"?
I learned a cool tool when I got out of rehab about 2 1/2 weeks ago. When someone confronts you and you do NOT want to engage, then all you say is, "You may be right." and walk off. You're not saying they are right or they are wrong, but there is no where for them to go when you say that. Try it. They just stand there expecting you to argue and you lay that on em. They look at you like you've walked over their graves.
There's only one person that you can take care of really. You. Hang strong. There are those that would try to turn you back if they could. Don't feed them.
Love,
Mike
What happened? I only posted that LONG drawn out post once, and it shows up twice. I didn't hit the post button twice but did use a new character (The one to the right of the M key capitalized). Maybe the board thought it was a header tag or something. Anyway, excuse the redundancy.
Mike
Mike
You are forgiven,but don't let it happen again!I you do it will be deer meat and grits for you!!
The deer meat I can handle. The grits... well, you've had grits haven't you?
Peace my brother,
Mike
Peace my brother,
Mike
Sometimes I think I've got it tough.
Sometimes I pray to God to help me completely out of the mess I got myself into with hydro, thinking I just want to get my life back and have the hydro use as nothing but a distant and hard to fathom memory.
This weekend some folks I know found their high school aged daughter dead in her bed. She had been in an accident several years ago, with a lot of facial damage. Apparently, there was some undetected opening into her skull from her sinuses and what would have otherwise been a minor infection killed her without warning.
So right now I'm thinking I'm very lucky and I need to stop all the whining I do (even if it's only to myself). I may have made a mess of things, but all the pieces were left more-or-less within reach. All I need to do is pick them up and hold them in place until the glue dries.
I don't know what I'd do if one of my 4 kids was snatched from me -- I don't think they make the type of glue needed to fix that.
CATUF
@51
Sometimes I pray to God to help me completely out of the mess I got myself into with hydro, thinking I just want to get my life back and have the hydro use as nothing but a distant and hard to fathom memory.
This weekend some folks I know found their high school aged daughter dead in her bed. She had been in an accident several years ago, with a lot of facial damage. Apparently, there was some undetected opening into her skull from her sinuses and what would have otherwise been a minor infection killed her without warning.
So right now I'm thinking I'm very lucky and I need to stop all the whining I do (even if it's only to myself). I may have made a mess of things, but all the pieces were left more-or-less within reach. All I need to do is pick them up and hold them in place until the glue dries.
I don't know what I'd do if one of my 4 kids was snatched from me -- I don't think they make the type of glue needed to fix that.
CATUF
@51
I'm with you Catuf. I think both of us have it made compared to some of the stuff others are dealing with on a daily basis. It's quite humbling to realize that I got away with a lot and am pretty much unscathed. There are people here that have to deal with the pain for a lifetime. And here I find myself whining about my withdrawal symptoms.
There's an old saying I like. "There's no such thing as a normal life. There's just life. Get on with living it."
Another favorite of mine (which has nothing to do with this thread) is from Mark Twain.
"Clothes make the man. Naked people have no influence in society."
For what it's worth...
All the best,
Mike
There's an old saying I like. "There's no such thing as a normal life. There's just life. Get on with living it."
Another favorite of mine (which has nothing to do with this thread) is from Mark Twain.
"Clothes make the man. Naked people have no influence in society."
For what it's worth...
All the best,
Mike
hi catuf. your post sounded eerie to me. i just found out yesterday that a very very close family/childhood friend died. he was the picture of perfect health...tall, handsome, health conscious---he had a brain aneurysm, all of a sudden -- he just slumped over and died right next to his sweet wife. it is breaking my heart. he will be missed so much. we grew up together. and i mean grew up together. he was practically my brother. sometimes i can't stand myself for being so wretched. here i am with this addiction that i'm really afraid to face. and right now, his mom is sedated and is grieving so much she can't talk. sometimes i don't like this world too much. it's too much to take. guess that's why i slip and take these pills...it just helps me cope, i guess.
We call a truce, and then you find out my personal email address and email me there...when I ask how did you get this address, you lie and say medhelp gave it to you. When I ask you again where you got it, you conveniently stay quiet. Why are you doing this? Why do you lie? I had said NOTHING on the new forum to warrant your post to me...you immediately assumed I needed a detailed list of the rules from you. You set me up to fail there, as we had already been fighting here and I went there to basically escape from you. If I had known you were there, I would never have accepted Michael's invitation.
You asked when you crossed way over the appropriate boundaries into my PERSONAL email if I wanted you to stop posting here...that I could have this forum and you could have the other. My answer is yes...please. Please let me try to have peace here...I am really trying.
You asked when you crossed way over the appropriate boundaries into my PERSONAL email if I wanted you to stop posting here...that I could have this forum and you could have the other. My answer is yes...please. Please let me try to have peace here...I am really trying.
Not to be rude or start anything with you but mrmichael isn't the ******* you make him out to be.If it wasn't for him dragging me out of my fog I would have been dead weeks ago.believe me.
All of this is starting to sound way to familiar doesn't it.
You have always been kind to me and I have no reason to flame you BUT please try and understand he is very good people.
As for the other forum,it is great.No BS no rudeness only a helpful bunch of people communicating with each other.I know Mariposa came there and didn't make it there but that wasn't my fault it was hers.I only repeated the rules to her when she started her usual flaming.(And Mariposa don't start again please).It's the truth.As I said hellbent, mrmichael isn't an ******* or whatever you think.He is a very caring and informed
man.Sincerly,bmac
All of this is starting to sound way to familiar doesn't it.
You have always been kind to me and I have no reason to flame you BUT please try and understand he is very good people.
As for the other forum,it is great.No BS no rudeness only a helpful bunch of people communicating with each other.I know Mariposa came there and didn't make it there but that wasn't my fault it was hers.I only repeated the rules to her when she started her usual flaming.(And Mariposa don't start again please).It's the truth.As I said hellbent, mrmichael isn't an ******* or whatever you think.He is a very caring and informed
man.Sincerly,bmac
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