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My first time detoxing, ever, after 4 years of Oxy/Perc treatment - reassurance?
Hey everyone. I'm so, so glad to finally post here after over a year of reading, being inspired, and finally taking the plunge to sobriety.
Because of my fairly severe scoliosis, and the debilitating lower back pain it caused, I was started on Tramadol over 5 years ago. You all know how it goes. One thing leads to another, and my final regimen of pain treatment was two 60mg OxyContin per day, and four 10mg/325 Percocet per day for breakthrough, which has been the case for about 3 years now. After some time, I began purchasing extra 10mg/325 Percocet off the street, because 4 per day just wasn't enough to satiate my desire. Let me be clear that the entire point of me taking the pills by this time was not to treat my pain, but the feel as euphoric as possible throughout the day. I was getting high.
By the end (the last day being yesterday), I was taking twelve 10mg/325 Percocets per day, although I never ended up abusing the OxyContin, for some reason. Matter of fact, right now, I have two unfilled monthly OxyContin scripts in my wallet because I took them exactly as prescribed, and it was just an overflow after so many years. I should probably throw them out, now that I just mentioned it.
My last day of pills was Sunday. I took one 60mg OxyContin after a week of taking one per day instead of two. I did not taper the Percocet at all. Twelve a day, every day, including Sunday. The last OxyContin I took was at 1:00pm on Sunday. The last Percocet I took was at 10:00pm on Sunday. All told, on Sunday I ingested 180mg of oxycodone (combining one 60mg OxyContin and twelve 10mg/325 Percocets). I took off work Monday and Tuesday to get off, and also have five strips of the 8mg/2mg Suboxone to assist.
So, on Sunday I fell asleep at midnight, two hours after my Very Last Percocet and eleven hours after my Very Last Oxycontin. I woke up at 6:30am Monday just feeling those very basic jitters before taking the first pill of the day. I distracted myself, eating cereal and watching TV, just kind of keeping busy. By 11:00am, I was so tired that I fell asleep for two hours. When I woke up at 1:00pm, the withdrawals had begun, and by 5:00pm, it was just flat out NASTY. Runny nose, watering eyes, aches and pains everywhere, hot flashes, cold flashes, and worst of all, the legs. Oh, the LEGS. You can't get them comfortable, they keep you from sleeping, just constantly tossing and turning and readjusting to find the comfortable position in which you can sleep, but that not existing, and so it just cycles and cycles, tossing and turning and whimpering and, at some times, just flat out crying in pain and frustration.
I am a grown man, and by 6:00pm, I was literally verbally crying out to God and Jesus asking for relief, tears streaming down my face. Thank the heavens that my girlfriend came by after work with a bottle of Potassium pills for me, and to keep me from using the Suboxone yet, because 10:00pm was my 24 hour mark for my last dose. and I had 4 unbearable hours to go. I took one potassium pill and one men's One A Day-type vitamin containing B6. Still, I didn't think there was any way I could make it to 10pm for my first Suboxone. Then I remembered that I had two 1mg Xanax pills stashed away. THESE WERE CRUCIAL. I cut them in halves, and with each .5 pill I took, it would give me 30 minutes of sleep. I'm convinced right now that the only way I made it to 10pm was with the Xanax. I really mean it.
I woke up from my last .5 Xanax pill at 10:30pm (which was 4 hours ago), feeling just wretched and horrid. The potassium helps, sure, but it's minor relief. The withdrawals are still there. My girlfriend cut one of the 8mg Suboxone strips in half, and gave me 4mg which I put under my tongue and continued to thrash around, my legs, my arms, my head, just everything, I couldn't stop moving. It was truly an incredible feeling. It's, like, the exact opposite of the best opiate high. It feels like your bone marrow itself is vibrating and gnashing its proverbial teeth. Every. Thing. Hurts.
And then... here I am. I obviously fell asleep as the Suboxone was taking affect, because in one moment, it was 10:30pm and I was a wretched, pathetic creature, and now it's 2:43am and I feel fine. Well, "fine." I mean, my lower back hurts a whole lot, and I'm very disoriented because of my insane sleep schedule these past 29 hours, but... my body doesn't feel like it's withdrawing at all! The only thing I notice is thirst. I think I drawn a whole half-gallon of Gatorade while typing this (and I type fast!).
So, there you have it. My first day off of an approximately 200mg/day three-year long oxycodone habit, and what it was like for me to get through those 24 crucial hours before my first dose of 4mg Suboxone.
So now what? What do I do? I have the 4mg leftover half of Suboxone, and then 4 more unopened strips of 8mg Suboxone left. When do I know when to take my next dose of Suboxone? At what strength should the following Suboxone dose be? Another 4mg, or maybe reduce is to 2mg? Basically, any input you have on how this remaining Suboxone should be used would be great for me.
And if you know how I should expect to feel moving forward, and when you think I might be able to return to work (today was the only day I missed so far), I'm all ears.
Until then, here I am, now at 2:52am in the morning, eating my first bowl of cereal as a sober person, and marveling.
Thank you for reading the middle-of-the-night/morning ramblings of this first poster. Thank you all so much for being there.
Because of my fairly severe scoliosis, and the debilitating lower back pain it caused, I was started on Tramadol over 5 years ago. You all know how it goes. One thing leads to another, and my final regimen of pain treatment was two 60mg OxyContin per day, and four 10mg/325 Percocet per day for breakthrough, which has been the case for about 3 years now. After some time, I began purchasing extra 10mg/325 Percocet off the street, because 4 per day just wasn't enough to satiate my desire. Let me be clear that the entire point of me taking the pills by this time was not to treat my pain, but the feel as euphoric as possible throughout the day. I was getting high.
By the end (the last day being yesterday), I was taking twelve 10mg/325 Percocets per day, although I never ended up abusing the OxyContin, for some reason. Matter of fact, right now, I have two unfilled monthly OxyContin scripts in my wallet because I took them exactly as prescribed, and it was just an overflow after so many years. I should probably throw them out, now that I just mentioned it.
My last day of pills was Sunday. I took one 60mg OxyContin after a week of taking one per day instead of two. I did not taper the Percocet at all. Twelve a day, every day, including Sunday. The last OxyContin I took was at 1:00pm on Sunday. The last Percocet I took was at 10:00pm on Sunday. All told, on Sunday I ingested 180mg of oxycodone (combining one 60mg OxyContin and twelve 10mg/325 Percocets). I took off work Monday and Tuesday to get off, and also have five strips of the 8mg/2mg Suboxone to assist.
So, on Sunday I fell asleep at midnight, two hours after my Very Last Percocet and eleven hours after my Very Last Oxycontin. I woke up at 6:30am Monday just feeling those very basic jitters before taking the first pill of the day. I distracted myself, eating cereal and watching TV, just kind of keeping busy. By 11:00am, I was so tired that I fell asleep for two hours. When I woke up at 1:00pm, the withdrawals had begun, and by 5:00pm, it was just flat out NASTY. Runny nose, watering eyes, aches and pains everywhere, hot flashes, cold flashes, and worst of all, the legs. Oh, the LEGS. You can't get them comfortable, they keep you from sleeping, just constantly tossing and turning and readjusting to find the comfortable position in which you can sleep, but that not existing, and so it just cycles and cycles, tossing and turning and whimpering and, at some times, just flat out crying in pain and frustration.
I am a grown man, and by 6:00pm, I was literally verbally crying out to God and Jesus asking for relief, tears streaming down my face. Thank the heavens that my girlfriend came by after work with a bottle of Potassium pills for me, and to keep me from using the Suboxone yet, because 10:00pm was my 24 hour mark for my last dose. and I had 4 unbearable hours to go. I took one potassium pill and one men's One A Day-type vitamin containing B6. Still, I didn't think there was any way I could make it to 10pm for my first Suboxone. Then I remembered that I had two 1mg Xanax pills stashed away. THESE WERE CRUCIAL. I cut them in halves, and with each .5 pill I took, it would give me 30 minutes of sleep. I'm convinced right now that the only way I made it to 10pm was with the Xanax. I really mean it.
I woke up from my last .5 Xanax pill at 10:30pm (which was 4 hours ago), feeling just wretched and horrid. The potassium helps, sure, but it's minor relief. The withdrawals are still there. My girlfriend cut one of the 8mg Suboxone strips in half, and gave me 4mg which I put under my tongue and continued to thrash around, my legs, my arms, my head, just everything, I couldn't stop moving. It was truly an incredible feeling. It's, like, the exact opposite of the best opiate high. It feels like your bone marrow itself is vibrating and gnashing its proverbial teeth. Every. Thing. Hurts.
And then... here I am. I obviously fell asleep as the Suboxone was taking affect, because in one moment, it was 10:30pm and I was a wretched, pathetic creature, and now it's 2:43am and I feel fine. Well, "fine." I mean, my lower back hurts a whole lot, and I'm very disoriented because of my insane sleep schedule these past 29 hours, but... my body doesn't feel like it's withdrawing at all! The only thing I notice is thirst. I think I drawn a whole half-gallon of Gatorade while typing this (and I type fast!).
So, there you have it. My first day off of an approximately 200mg/day three-year long oxycodone habit, and what it was like for me to get through those 24 crucial hours before my first dose of 4mg Suboxone.
So now what? What do I do? I have the 4mg leftover half of Suboxone, and then 4 more unopened strips of 8mg Suboxone left. When do I know when to take my next dose of Suboxone? At what strength should the following Suboxone dose be? Another 4mg, or maybe reduce is to 2mg? Basically, any input you have on how this remaining Suboxone should be used would be great for me.
And if you know how I should expect to feel moving forward, and when you think I might be able to return to work (today was the only day I missed so far), I'm all ears.
Until then, here I am, now at 2:52am in the morning, eating my first bowl of cereal as a sober person, and marveling.
Thank you for reading the middle-of-the-night/morning ramblings of this first poster. Thank you all so much for being there.
I don,t know what your problem is but not every one thinks like you, Yes you can tell your self that you are done and yes it works if you truly want it. I was a major herion addict 11 years ago I hated herion and wanted to quit, I had major withdrawl symptoms and laid in bed for i dont know how many days and it took about 1 year to feel back to my normal self. I had no support group, no doctor,oh yea i went to hospital to try to get help and they dont help herion addicts i was on my own and the closet methadone clinic was 75 miles away I did it on my own and it can be done a person reaches a point to where they dont want it any more and you can quit its is totally self control and alot of people dont have it but I am fortunate to have it I was I dont go to NA to me its a bunch of people reliving the past over and over if you think you need a counselor thats different cause some people have some deep issues to deal with but as far as detox at home own your own it can be done. By the way i have not touched herion in 12 years and i have never looked back so please dont discourage people and tell them they gonna fail. Oh yea it was my first time that I decided i had enough and went through with it. You have to have the passion to quit and maybe that one thing you where truly lacking deep with in yourself
Hi,
I have been reading about 100 post trying to comfort myself through this horrible process. I'm 32yr old female and celebrating my 5th day off suboxone after being on it for 3yrs in order to avoid severe withdrawal from a $1000 per wk percocet, vicodin, roxycotton....etc addiction for about 4yrs. It took me losing evrything I worked so hard for to get to this point. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could give me advice because I don't know how much longer I can stand this pain from the suboxone withdrawal. Should I give in and take a piece of a sub or would it be better for me to take a small 5mg percocet for the last time and continue with kicking this habit. I tried Xanax, Ativan, ambien but nothing seems to work, however I don't want to sabotage getting this far for nothing. At the same time I don't want to fall into the same down ward spiral I was in because I don't think I can stand this much longer without some relief......please help!
I have been reading about 100 post trying to comfort myself through this horrible process. I'm 32yr old female and celebrating my 5th day off suboxone after being on it for 3yrs in order to avoid severe withdrawal from a $1000 per wk percocet, vicodin, roxycotton....etc addiction for about 4yrs. It took me losing evrything I worked so hard for to get to this point. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could give me advice because I don't know how much longer I can stand this pain from the suboxone withdrawal. Should I give in and take a piece of a sub or would it be better for me to take a small 5mg percocet for the last time and continue with kicking this habit. I tried Xanax, Ativan, ambien but nothing seems to work, however I don't want to sabotage getting this far for nothing. At the same time I don't want to fall into the same down ward spiral I was in because I don't think I can stand this much longer without some relief......please help!
I found this forum 10 days ago and have a few questions. I have been on hydrocodone 7.5 for almost 5 yrs taking up tp 8 a day and went to oxycodone 15mg 4-5 a day. Two years ago I was introduce to methadone and took it for 2 months. Luckly some how i found the strenght to seek help and tapered off and was clean for about a month and relapsed back on hydro. I am in my 6th day clean using the Thomas recipe. I am going thru menopause and have a very physical job in an outside park setting in the very southeast of the country where we have had triple digit weather since april. The humidity is much higher. I work outside and get plenty of excercise and its feels like your in a sauna all the time and I drink tons of water. Is it the conditons that I work in or the combination of detoxing that I have 0 energy? I started taking all those pills to help with my energy level and pushing myself beyond. When will I feel normal? The staff and my animal family depends on me, I can hardly get up and go, Is this a mental thing?
just followed your post your doing well best I can figure your off the subs witch is good you dont want to get hooked on that from here you just got to give yourself time to heal this varys from person to person I recamend whey proten shakes its a cheep way of getting the amino acids as well as extra vitamins and raw protein all of witch the brain needs to heal you can pick it up at walmart for 15 bucks for a 2lb can the chocolate flavor is good just mix it with milk drink 2 a day this is not a quick fix but rather the building blocks of what your brain needs to heal the stuff works as you all ready can tell this is a gradual process but with time and God you will heal keep posting to let us know how your doing and we can suggest different things to help good luck with your recovery you have done well up till now keep pushing forward and God bless......Gnarly
COMMUNITY LEADER
Great update and way to go on ripping those scripts up!! That takes alot of strength and determination!!
I so understand the progress with the bathroom thing!!! You almost want to go outside and scream it from the top of your lungs!
Keep doing what you are doing and keep us updated~~sara
I so understand the progress with the bathroom thing!!! You almost want to go outside and scream it from the top of your lungs!
Keep doing what you are doing and keep us updated~~sara
Day 26, and I still haven't had a single craving for the drug. I'm beginning to think that if you really, truly want to stop, then so will the cravings, because you genuinely have no interest in continuing the abuse, or going through life with that hazy, false sense of well-being.
I had my first solid stool a few days ago. I felt weak and apathetic on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday felt pretty good, Wednesday and Thursday were very achy all over, and today (Friday) I feel almost completely fine. I have a feeling I'm at the on-and-off stage, now, where the PAWS comes in waves. A few bad days, a few good days.
And really, what better sign of progress? To have a solid stool sometimes, to go through a whole 30-60 minutes without even thinking about my condition, to have an entire day where I don't daydream about sitting in the tub and cutting my legs off by hand with a band saw.
Even further, I am now sleeping! I'm averaging between 6-7 hours a night now which, let me tell you, has a significant spirit-lifting effect after going weeks (literally, weeks) with 3-4 hours a night. It tends to break the catch-22 cycle of daytime lethargy and nighttime insomnia.
So, I just wanted to say that I am improving, and that I really did do it. I'm not going back to the drug. In fact, during my last doctor's appointment, I handed back my last two unfilled scripts of OxyContin and, as a symbolic gesture, they were torn into little pieces and thrown in the garbage.
Which, really, is just where they belong.
I had my first solid stool a few days ago. I felt weak and apathetic on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday felt pretty good, Wednesday and Thursday were very achy all over, and today (Friday) I feel almost completely fine. I have a feeling I'm at the on-and-off stage, now, where the PAWS comes in waves. A few bad days, a few good days.
And really, what better sign of progress? To have a solid stool sometimes, to go through a whole 30-60 minutes without even thinking about my condition, to have an entire day where I don't daydream about sitting in the tub and cutting my legs off by hand with a band saw.
Even further, I am now sleeping! I'm averaging between 6-7 hours a night now which, let me tell you, has a significant spirit-lifting effect after going weeks (literally, weeks) with 3-4 hours a night. It tends to break the catch-22 cycle of daytime lethargy and nighttime insomnia.
So, I just wanted to say that I am improving, and that I really did do it. I'm not going back to the drug. In fact, during my last doctor's appointment, I handed back my last two unfilled scripts of OxyContin and, as a symbolic gesture, they were torn into little pieces and thrown in the garbage.
Which, really, is just where they belong.
I understand that and is what I am looking for with my need to be straight. I may not have liked some of my feelings, but they were mine and not shadowed by the pills. I got to where I did not care about anything and just sort of drifted thru the day. Nothing seemed to tickle me or make me smile. It did not help my tears..they (the pills) just kept me from truly feeling the pain and finding a way to move past it.
Day 16. Still going strong. I have to stretch constantly from late morning to late afternoon, mostly my legs and neck/shoulders, because my muscles still feel tight, sore, and achy. Another thing about late morning to late afternoon is my concentration and focus is completely atrophied. I just can't zone in. The mornings and late nights are the most calm. Last night I slept for a full 5 hours without my usual pre-bed dose of Melatonin, Valerian Root, and Benadryl. Improvement is definitely showing itself day by day at this point, but I'm unable to feel any joy or pleasure. I understand that my brain is learning how to produce dopamine again. I just really wish I knew how long it'll take. It's the Not Knowing that is probably, in the big picture, the worst to deal with. But I haven't relapsed, let alone even craved, so I'm taking that as a good sign. The battle to get my body and mind back continues.
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Energy and sleep are usually the last thing to come back but it does. Hang in there!
Day 12 now. Restless legs come and go. Back to 3-4 hours of sleep a night. I am incredibly tired and my energy is so low, but not like it was during days 1-3 when even brushing my teeth before bed was too hard to do. It's getting better every day, for the most part, it's just the restlessness and the inability to sleep that's really grating on my nerves. What I wouldn't do for a full 8 hour sleep session!
Oh, and also, last night was the first time I got 6 hours of sleep since I started the detox process. Every other night has been 3-4 hours a night. So that's progress, right? Though I'm still sneezing off and on! It's annoying.
Alright, all, reporting back in the middle of Day #8 off my 240mg/day oxycodone habit, and in the middle of Day #3 without taking Suboxone. Restless legs have finally subsided (or it's just the Flexiril masking it). My energy levels are very low, but not as low as yesterday or the day before. I only went to that one NA meeting. It was nice, and helpful at the time, but not really my thing. I'm feeling good. Not once have I had a single urge to get Oxycontin or Percocet. I'm really glad to say that and mean it.
I'm so glad the meeting went well for you... The after care is such an important part of all of this... It must have been incredibly difficult for you to even be able to go... I'm really proud of you... Let's here it for day #4 now... Each day will get a little bit easier... Fight hard and stand strong... I know you can do this...
I'll be praying,
GHW
I'll be praying,
GHW
The NA meeting was fantastic!
Thank you very much for the ingredient suggestions.
I'm so incredibly tired and this is all I can bear to type.
Need rest now.
On to Day #4.
Thank you ALL so MUCH.
Thank you very much for the ingredient suggestions.
I'm so incredibly tired and this is all I can bear to type.
Need rest now.
On to Day #4.
Thank you ALL so MUCH.
Ooh that sounds better - Alteril.
And you'll find a lot of people get great relief with the valerian root (me included) so even better that it's combined with the melatonin.
Hope the meeting went well tonight!
And you'll find a lot of people get great relief with the valerian root (me included) so even better that it's combined with the melatonin.
Hope the meeting went well tonight!
Oh sorry...Alteril contains Melatonin (an amino acid), L-tryptophan(why do that have such hard names???), and Valerian root (nature's valium...yeah nature!! )
vicki's given you all the great suggestions and they all work. Melatonin is the only thing I'd add here- it helped me for sleep quite a bit. Maybe not so much at first (not sure anything helps sleep in the very beginning) but with time it became a lifesaver. Make sure if you do take it to take about an hour before bedtime, and keep the lights off (works only in the dark).
And I absolutely agree that determination is a huge part of this - we're just preparing you for what could happen. Everyone's experience is different but better to know what could happen that have something blindside you right?
Hang in - and it's wonderful to hear you're going to a meeting. There's no such thing as too much support. :)
And I absolutely agree that determination is a huge part of this - we're just preparing you for what could happen. Everyone's experience is different but better to know what could happen that have something blindside you right?
Hang in - and it's wonderful to hear you're going to a meeting. There's no such thing as too much support. :)
Take extra vitamin C. Get a separate chelated cal/mag supplement, Hyland's Restless leg At Walgreens and others, Epsom salts for the bath: Three times per day take a hot bath with 1 cup of Epsom salt. Sit there until medium rare. You will feel wonderful! Your skin absorbs the salts and it's great for RLS. Let's see...Immodium,protein powder for shakes...
Dehydration and low blood sugar are responsible for a lot of the severity here...you'll see.
My ideas...well, I just want you to be okay with this...I don't think you'll feel much from the Sub ct...but you may have some withdrawal. We'll see...Also, get some "Alteril" for insomnia. It's OTC and all natural...
When you're rested,let us know how the meeting went...
Dehydration and low blood sugar are responsible for a lot of the severity here...you'll see.
My ideas...well, I just want you to be okay with this...I don't think you'll feel much from the Sub ct...but you may have some withdrawal. We'll see...Also, get some "Alteril" for insomnia. It's OTC and all natural...
When you're rested,let us know how the meeting went...
Inspiring words. Thank you so very much! It's hard to type too much right now. I'm extremely tired and have my first NA meeting in 75 minutes. I need to muster some energy somehow.
I am taking a one-a-day multi-vitamin that includes B6, and I am taking potassium supplements separately. Other than that, just a lot of drinking water/Gatorade. And, so far, one 4mg dose of Suboxone (Monday @ 10:30pm) and one 2mg dose of Suboxone (Wednesday/today @ 7:30am). What are your ideas? I'd love to hear!
Kramp: You know, I chose my words very carefully and,taken IN context, I don't feel as though I was being negative at all. I try to be honest,not candy coat,or diminish the seriousness of an addiction. Enough about that...
There is much value in being determined,open minded,and strong. Of course. Addiction is mostly mental. If you LOVED being addicted then nothing would work for you. So,yes,you're doing fine... Personally,I like to define terms so "weakness" does not enter into this equation. It's never about a person's character...I'll tell you that some of the most stellar people I have know,I have met right here!
So listen, on to symptoms. What are you taking to treat any and all symptoms? I have suggestions so just let me know...
There is much value in being determined,open minded,and strong. Of course. Addiction is mostly mental. If you LOVED being addicted then nothing would work for you. So,yes,you're doing fine... Personally,I like to define terms so "weakness" does not enter into this equation. It's never about a person's character...I'll tell you that some of the most stellar people I have know,I have met right here!
So listen, on to symptoms. What are you taking to treat any and all symptoms? I have suggestions so just let me know...
Hey I think ur doing great.....I don't have a clue bout subs sorry....I just ct off.....after 8 years not good... I have after care thank goodness...bc to begin with u just want off....but after that reality sets in it does get crazy....u have to just dig ur claws in and hold on....lol... But ur doing great hang in there....
Krampusnacht,
I think your doing remarkable... All you have asked for is a little support... Maybe even a pat on the back to tell you keep it up your doing great... Instead I keep reading things like "your not going to make it" "Your doing it all wrong"... I just don't get it...
The way I look at it is your doing fantastic... If you relapse then you relapse... get up dust your pants off and start again... I actually know people who did make it their very first time without ever having a relapse... It can be done and I feel like your just one of those that can do it too...
Remember that most of us are here to support you through this rough old road your traveling down...I'll try my hardest to do my part in giving you the encouragement and support you need... Stand strong and I know you can do this...
Praying for you,
GHW
I think your doing remarkable... All you have asked for is a little support... Maybe even a pat on the back to tell you keep it up your doing great... Instead I keep reading things like "your not going to make it" "Your doing it all wrong"... I just don't get it...
The way I look at it is your doing fantastic... If you relapse then you relapse... get up dust your pants off and start again... I actually know people who did make it their very first time without ever having a relapse... It can be done and I feel like your just one of those that can do it too...
Remember that most of us are here to support you through this rough old road your traveling down...I'll try my hardest to do my part in giving you the encouragement and support you need... Stand strong and I know you can do this...
Praying for you,
GHW
Thanks to everyone so far! I understand I'm green with all of this. I just... there must be some value in determination, yes? It *must* help me, somehow, to think only that I am going to win this battle, regardless of the cost, period, end of story, no ifs/and/buts. If it turns out I am too weak, then I am too weak, but I will not look back without being able to say that I tried my hardest. I am feeling immovable with this. Through the aches, jitters, pains, restless legs, headaches, tearing eyes, running nose, the toilet runs, the nausea... I still feel unconquerable. I am using Suboxone as a helper, short-term, and I am not taking it unless it is dire. I just wanted to explain myself, and why I may come off perhaps overly-confident and naive. That is the point. I have no experience with this process. I am fresh, and I'm bringing my freshest, most impervious, and perhaps childish outlook to it: that I will win, and I will get through these withdrawals, that I will become clean, and I will not relapse.
For whatever it's worth, though, I am going to my first NA meeting tonight. I am not so naive as to think that group support would not help me. I am already feeling helped by all of you! Particularly someone who has been messaging me in private. They know who they are. I am so very glad to find you all.
For whatever it's worth, though, I am going to my first NA meeting tonight. I am not so naive as to think that group support would not help me. I am already feeling helped by all of you! Particularly someone who has been messaging me in private. They know who they are. I am so very glad to find you all.
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