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[mrmichael67]

I am sorry this isn't a question, but we need room to post.

[doner]

Being you go by thomas Ill assume the recipe is yours. I am tapering methadone but wanted to tell you that even though Im not using it for cold turkey it has done wonders for me. Im sure my body was depleted of many vitamins that us addicts forget to take. My boyfriend is the most stubborn man alive and hates vitamins but confessed your recipe is helping him to feel better.At any rate just wanted to show my appreciation and give a many thanks to you. Doner

[mrmichael67]

I clearly wrote that if you misrepresent yourself to the pharmacist (use maiden name that you don't normally use anymore, wrong birthdate, or something to fraudulantly obtain meds), that is illegal.  And, it is.  You can go to two different docs.  BUT, you can't get the SAME controlled med from two or three different docs.  And, you can't get different opioids (Duragesic from one and Oxycontin from another) from two or more different docs.  That goes for benzos or whatever.  That is illegal.  I am sorry, but I don't see anything confusing about that.  If you go to a pain clinic and you sign a contract, they clearly stipulate you are not to get narcs from another doc.  I do know if you go to a different doc, they usually have you disclose any meds you are currently taking.  If you disclose you are currently taking Vicodin, I am sure you won't get a script for that from the other doc.  Now, you can get prescriptions from two different docs.  I mean, blood pressure meds from your cardiologist and antibiotics from your GP.  That is ok, of course.

[rodewc]

The thread below was closed. I agree w/ Jack. If you go to rehab w/ an open mind, it can only help. If you have chronic pain, you will garner skills for taking yr meds responsibly at Rehab. I am convinced (after reading @ the many obstacles you have already overcome) that you are a strong person who will work things out for the best.

rwc~

[mrmichael67]

If you recieve Vicodin from a podiatrist and an internist at the same time, that is illegal.

[rodewc]

Some friends, as well as I, used 2 diff pharmacies and 2 docs. Two of my buddies still do. They, and I, were perecribed the same med, albeit for 2 different ailments. Each of us filled the script at a pharmacy convenient to the doctor's office. The total amount of meds perscribed by the 2 docs did not exceed the amt allowed for daily consumation. I did not think this was illegal, nor did I "hide" any info from the pharmacist. Your replies confused me, actually made me paranoid as I was not aware it was illegal to see an internist and a podiatrist, for example. Both treat different ills. I am not abusing meds now, but I would always choose the pharmacy most convenient to me timewise.
~rwc

[sandstorm]

I agree with you. I have been addicted to a lot of pain meds over the years and ultram has been the worse.  I had been clean for 15 years and was very careful what I took and a new doctor perscribed ultram and said I could take up to 8 a day if needed.  He said there was no downside and it was actually better to take that instead of advil or tylenol.  Like I said yesterday the rest is history.  I was on 16 a day at the end of three years.  I know what you are going through.

It has been 4 months now and I'm starting to feel normal.  It was hell!  I agree with the Thomas recipe and I wish I had known about it.  The only thing that was different with me and I know everyone is different.   I took ativan and ambien for a week because it was so bad and the Dr. was worried about my bp.  I only had enough for a week and this was the 2nd week of withdrawls.  It did relax me some,  but it actually triggered my withdrawls and made it worse afterwards.  Like I said everyone is different.  I tappered down to about six ultram a day and I could not go any lower.  It took me 7 months to do that and finally I just quit so I went cold turkey after 6 but that was better than 16.  If you possibly can, taper lower than I did and it won't be so bad.  I will be thinking of you and hang in there, because if you prolong, it will just get worse.  Take it from an expert.

Take care,
Sandy